I am not counting them at all....but when plonkers come out and say that None have been anywhere near the first team...then it is infact an incorrect statement.Muffer, relax. You can't count Kalas and Bertrand as success's. Kalas May go on to do well for us but he has about 2 first team starts. I wouldn't count that as being near the first team (as in being a near regular starter)