Out of control Chinese rocket to hit the Earth - and they don't know where (they do now)

The Corinthian

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Supposedly the rocket is a United fan and will land on the Glazers’ head.
 

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It fell in The Maldives. I saw a video taken by someone in The Maldives. It was a good video.
 

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It's mind-boggling that China designed the rocket to work this way and think it's all right. Every other nation that puts rockets into space has included systems to safely de-orbit them after their mission. Sometimes they fail and you have incidents like the SpaceX rocket over Seattle the other month, but to design a rocket to return to Earth without any control over where or when is insane. Imagine if one of their rockets happens to hit the White House, Westminster, or the Kremlin.

I guess they haven't stolen the plans for how to implement a de-orbiting control system yet. :rolleyes:
 

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Sir Matt said:
It's mind-boggling that China designed the rocket to work this way and think it's all right. Every other nation that puts rockets into space has included systems to safely de-orbit them after their mission. Sometimes they fail and you have incidents like the SpaceX rocket over Seattle the other month, but to design a rocket to return to Earth without any control over where or when is insane. Imagine if one of their rockets happens to hit the White House, Westminster, or the Kremlin.

I guess they haven't stolen the plans for how to implement a de-orbiting control system yet. :rolleyes:
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That's a healthy dose of Chinophobia right there.
 

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China's space authority announced on Sunday that remnants from China's Long March-5B Y2 carrier rocket reentered the Earth's atmosphere, most of it burning up on entry, with some remnants falling in the Arabian Sea.

Amid an intense China-US relationship and increasingly fierce competition in technology between the two great powers, some Americans have been racking their brains and grasping every chance to hype the "China threat" theory, with the latest episode being they accusing China of being "irresponsible" for leaving rocket debris "uncontrolled, causing threats to objects on Earth," despite the fact that it is a global common way to deal with rocket debris, practiced by all space powers including the US itself.

Chinese aerospace experts mocked that they felt "surprised" that some people would buy such absurd logic as it is common sense in the science field. Analysts of foreign affairs pointed out that it reflects the double standards of the West in an attempt to sabotage China's space station construction plan, exposing their military intentions to track China's space hardware.
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Debris from China's Long March-5B Y2 carrier rocket reentered Earth's atmosphere at 10:24 am Beijing time on Sunday with most parts burning up during the process, China Manned Space Agency (CMSA) said. The location of the re-entry is 72.47 degrees east longitude and 2.65 degrees north latitude, indicating somewhere on the Arabian Sea west of the Maldives.

Despite clarification by China's space industry insiders and Foreign Ministry that the probability of the rocket remnants causing harm was extremely low, a number of Western media outlets, including CNN and The New York Times, as well as the US' Pentagon and NASA, claimed the debris was heading back to Earth in an "uncontrolled" manner and criticized China of being "irresponsible" for the ocean landing.

"The accusations were false, groundless," said Song Zhongping, an aerospace expert and TV commentator. "The so-called 'uncontrolled' trajectory refers to the loss of propulsion, but in no way means that China has lost track of its flight path and real-time location."

Every movement of the rocket fragments is being closely watched by China's space tracking network, and accurate predictions on its landing site were made accordingly and the flight course would avoid densely inhabited areas in the designing phase, Song told the Global Times on Sunday.

Wang Ya'nan, chief editor of Aerospace Knowledge magazine, said it is "completely normal" for rocket debris to return to Earth, and it is a common practice carried out by all global participants in the aerospace field, including the US.

"The wreckage's fall is within the normal range under widely accepted standards, with most parts burnt up during re-entry and a few were insufficiently burnt due to differences in the atmospheric environment," Wang said.

"Except for the SpaceX reusable rockets, all remnants from the first and second stages of traditional launch vehicles return to Earth in an uncontrolled manner. And all countries conducting such practice track the falling pieces and calculate their trajectories as China does," Wang noted.
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'Comet-like' or 'serious threat'?

In stark contrast to media reports on China's rocket debris, burning rocket remnants of the second stage of the US SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket, which crashed on a farm in Washington state in March, were described by media like Associated Press as "leaving comet-like trails" as the vessel streaked across the Pacific Northwest sky.

The different descriptions of the two rockets reflects the double standards adopted by some Western forces in the way China is treated, said Song, as "they are not really worried about causing harm to people, but since it's a Chinese rocket, they have politicized the matter, put a label on it and then hyped it."
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https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202105/1222935.shtml
 

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Sir Matt said:
It's mind-boggling that China designed the rocket to work this way and think it's all right. Every other nation that puts rockets into space has included systems to safely de-orbit them after their mission. Sometimes they fail and you have incidents like the SpaceX rocket over Seattle the other month, but to design a rocket to return to Earth without any control over where or when is insane. Imagine if one of their rockets happens to hit the White House, Westminster, or the Kremlin.

I guess they haven't stolen the plans for how to implement a de-orbiting control system yet. :rolleyes:
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The US’s Skylab doesn’t get a mention?
That thing was huge!
 

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Where were you when the chinese rocket didn't hit anything.
 

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utdalltheway said:
The US’s Skylab doesn’t get a mention?
That thing was huge!
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I mean it was 42 years ago so expectations are a little different, but even the Saturn V rocket that put Skylab up there carried out a controlled re-entry in 1973. NASA also tried to boost the orbit to keep it up but couldn't get the shuttle ready in time.

Moby said:
That's a healthy dose of Chinophobia right there.
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Not Chinophobia, but if China wants to be treated as a responsible space program, they should be held to the same expectations of the US, Russia, and other nations. The last uncontrolled objects of similar size to de-orbit were 30, 40, and 46 years ago. They certainly have the capability to ensure that the rockets are properly de-orbited, but they just don't care where it lands. Last time their Long March rocket landed on villages in the Ivory Coast. This time it luckily landed in the ocean, but they didn't even make any announcements about it until Sunday just before it de-orbited. Instead, the world had to rely on the US, European, and international space organizations for information about the rocket. If China knew where it would come down, they could easily have released a statement ahead of time about where it was going. Instead, they said nothing.
 

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Sir Matt said:
:confused: The Long March rocket? The whole story is about how it's perfectly normal for rockets to come back to earth with false equivalences.
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I was making a joke. Similar to how ccp propaganda has been claiming covid to be an American virus
 
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