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Looks like Onana saw how many United careers Maguire helped end & thinks, not with me.Does Onana count as an angry fan?
Looks like Onana saw how many United careers Maguire helped end & thinks, not with me.Does Onana count as an angry fan?
Or, like what if he broke into your house at night time and took a dump in your toilet cistern, so every time you flushed, poo water came out. Would it be justified under those circumstances to boo him? I think so.One question to everyone, what if we were winning 1-0 in this seasons UCL final, ETH throws him on to help defend the last few minutes and he ends up doing something stupid like gifting a chance to the opposition which they then score in the 87min to level 1-1, then just as you were trying to get that out of your system in the 93rd min he scores an own goal to complete the turn around for the opposition...
Would it be justified to boo him after that!?
Good question to be fair - I would have to draw the line at comparing the booing a player because we think he's not good enough and another player because it looks, to all extents and purposes, that he committed a vile attack on his partner.What about Greenwood?
I have never booed one of our players but I would boo and call him names every single game I attend, little piece of shit.What about Greenwood?
Seems like a waste of a ticket to go watch a football game.I have never booed one of our players but I would boo and call him names every single game I attend, little piece of shit.
No.One question to everyone, what if we were winning 1-0 in this seasons UCL final, ETH throws him on to help defend the last few minutes and he ends up doing something stupid like gifting a chance to the opposition which they then score in the 87min to level 1-1, then just as you were trying to get that out of your system in the 93rd min he scores an own goal to complete the turn around for the opposition...
Would it be justified to boo him after that!?
I’m not American but to the “they don’t understand The match going fans” argument loses credibility when you consider Nani, Fellaini, Pogba have been booed by match going fans at OT and awayI don’t want to attribute this to a nationality but in this case what is likely a large American fan base: they read and see things online (like curious children do when they want to find out about something more) and they copy. This is happening with football a lot in the last decade or so with them. They’ve probably seen memes, videos of jokes that have been made this side of the pond and they copy the behaviour. it’s their way of trying to “fit in” with the banter. But their humour isn’t the same as ours especially - it just comes out wrong and slightly cringe. And booing your own player is just not the right way to go about fitting in, in anyones books.
Same, never outright booed a player, regardless of how poor or how awful an attitude.I've never booed a United player (or ex player for that matter - although might have laughed at one or two) and won't start now. But people pay their money and are entitled to do so. That said, Joel or Avram, if you're reading this: "Booooooooooo"
Were these player booed before they even touched the ball?I’m not American but to the “they don’t understand The match going fans” argument loses credibility when you consider Nani, Fellaini, Pogba have been booed by match going fans at OT and away
I think they were booed during matches due to errors. I don't mind others booing in that context, as long as they move on and treat the next game as a clean slate.Were these player booed before they even touched the ball?
Wasn’t Fellaini booed as he came on the pitch ?Were these player booed before they even touched the ball?
I don't recall if he was or notWasn’t Fellaini booed as he came on the pitch ?
Indeed, you can boo a poor performance but before the game even starts is out of order IMOI think they were booed during matches due to errors. I don't mind others booing in that context, as long as they move on and treat the next game as a clean slate.
It's when it's constant, follows them into fan interactions and social media where I think people need to get a life.
I’ve never Booed. I’ve just sang Booooourns a few times.I've never booed a United player (or ex player for that matter - although might have laughed at one or two) and won't start now. But people pay their money and are entitled to do so. That said, Joel or Avram, if you're reading this: "Booooooooooo"
What has he done to be perceived as arrogant? The only thing I can think of is cupping his ears when he scored against Albania, as if that somehow silenced his critics. Which, while a bit cringe, is nothing more than that.I’m Maguire’s care, isn’t it more his arrogance fans have an issue with?
His interview about managers continuing to pick him pissed off a lot of fans for a start.What has he done to be perceived as arrogant? The only thing I can think of is cupping his ears when he scored against Albania, as if that somehow silenced his critics. Which, while a bit cringe, is nothing more than that.
He just doesnt seem to be able to 'read the room'. He lost his place in the team, makes mistake after mistake, is used in parlements as a description for disaster and basically is a worldwide meme of a footballer.What has he done to be perceived as arrogant? The only thing I can think of is cupping his ears when he scored against Albania, as if that somehow silenced his critics. Which, while a bit cringe, is nothing more than that.
There’s enough to see that Maguire is one of those fake humble guys.What has he done to be perceived as arrogant? The only thing I can think of is cupping his ears when he scored against Albania, as if that somehow silenced his critics. Which, while a bit cringe, is nothing more than that.
His only crime is being slow af and a bit clumsy as a result. I don't think he'd have any issue with confidence despite the abuses. He played exactly like when he arrived and still tried to attempt those ridiculous long passes. He seems to be a quite thick guy imo. The new system just exposes all his weaknesses. Slow brain and slow feet.Credit to Harry he has never made a fuss about being push down the pecking order. His only crime has been losing confidence and not being able to get it back.
I’ll never agree with anyone booing him.
Exactly.Indeed, you can boo a poor performance but before the game even starts is out of order IMO
Only Maguire can't be faulted for a lack of effort.IMO if supporters boo a player then they’re showing their disapproval for that player being selected and are therefore clearly sending a message of disapproval to the manager who selected said player.
Never been a boo boy myself but I can understand why a hard working bloke on minimum wage would boo a player on £200,000 a week for not being arsed enough to make an effort.
I’d say based on nothing but a feeling, the most loud fans against Maguire, are the loudest about MG being fine to come back.There are probably a decent number of United fans who feel more strongly about Maguire than Greenwood, depressing as that might be.
Fair do’s if that’s how you see it but it is, of course, a matter of opinion and I didn’t actually say that Maguire should be faulted for lack of effort so I’m puzzled by you aiming your Harry fan boy angst at me.Only Maguire can't be faulted for a lack of effort.
What on earth are you on about?Fair do’s if that’s how you see it but it is, of course, a matter of opinion and I didn’t actually say that Maguire should be faulted for lack of effort so I’m puzzled by you aiming your Harry fan boy angst at me.
What I said about the booing of Maguire by his own clubs supporters was “IMO if supporters boo a player then they’re showing their disapproval for that player being selected and are therefore clearly sending a message of disapproval to the manager who selected said player.”
You did understand that I was saying there was that what was seen as being poor management was the cause of the booing rather than Maguire himself didn’t you?
I then went on to give a generalised opinion on the topic of booing (there’s a lot of it about) that said “Never been a boo boy myself but I can understand why a hard working bloke on minimum wage would boo a player on £200,000 a week for not being arsed enough to make an effort.”
I included your pointed highlighting so that you can see that you’ve taken what I wrote out of it’s broader context and twisted it by adding your own erroneous slant to make it appear that I’d said that Maguire should be faulted for lack of effort. Which I clearly didn’t did I?
For the sake of clarity, I don’t like Maguire as a character but I don’t blame him for the stupid money Utd paid for him, or for his ridiculous salary, and do think (as I’ve previously said elsewhere) that IMO he would be a very good player in the right system.
Are you happy with that?
By the way I’m quite new in here, hardly posted at all, so it should be little trouble for you to check back on all I’ve written (vet me thoroughly to establish that I’m not an enemy to the Maguire fan club) and then go and fight the good fight with someone who’s actually having a go at him. Makes more sense innit eh?
I guess I was presupposing intelligence but, if you honestly didn’t understand what I wrote, and if you accidentally chose to misrepresent my words, then I apologise unreservedly for knocking you off your high horse and hope you get your clown shoes on and get back to the circus unharmed.What on earth are you on about?
Firstly, not a fan boy of Maguire, he was an expensive mistake made by the club, compounded by giving him the captaincy, so instead of idiotically labelling me a fanboy with no basis whatsoever, behave and debate like a grown up if you must.
Secondly, you made 2 points, and I picked up on the second (without even disagreeing with the wider point), that where certain fans may feel justified in booing a player that isn't bothered to the required effort to justify their paycheck, in this case, Maguire doesn't actually fit that mold. He's a substandard player rather than a lazy one. No angst, just building on your line of thought.
If you read that as picking a fight, I don't know what to tell you.
Transfer fee and being captain of the biggest club in the country for years. Higher expectation and scrutiny than Joe Gomez for instance.I don't like constantly slagging players off but why do Maguire get booed by Utd and England fans? There have been players who have performed worse than Maguire.
I'm not saying Maguire doesn't try, but I understand why a player gets booed for not trying (plus a lot of other drivel).Blah, blah, blah.
Let me play devils advocate for a second - Cant this also be attributed to the Glazers? They feel we the fans dont love them so will do everything in their power to screw us over to the bitter end. “Oh they dont love us and want to riot when we go to games? Fck them, we wont update them on anything related to the sell and take our time”Never boo a player who's trying his best.
If they're visibly not putting in any effort, that's another story.
Maguire didn't asked to be targetted by United, that was Jose. Maguire didn't ask to be bought for £80m, that was Woodward. And Maguire didn't ask to be slow, that was genetic.
You achieve nothing by booing, other than ruining his confidence and making him radioactive on the transfer market - both of which hurt the club.