Which reactions are embarrassing?
Those teams had better midfields than we do. So obviously if we sell Pogba we have to replace him quality.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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Those teams had better midfields than we do. So obviously if we sell Pogba we have to replace him quality.
Would no doubt be humiliating to lose him on a free again, however also concerned that knowing our owners we won't get the 2 different types of midfielder needed in order to replace his output
I agree with everything but the last paragraph. They’re a really good side right now, and some of the best of last generation; Cavani, Ibrahimovic, Silva — all went there around the same age too. A side like that should realistically be competing at a serious level in the CL next season.
If we ended up with Camavinga and another midfielder, I’d drive him to Paris myself. Hugely underwhelming signing - had so much promise, delivered so little.
Will be relieved when the circus finally moves on. He has wanted out for years and could have given so much more. Given how little he has played in the last couple of years I dont think we need to get a direct replacement either. We do need to strengthen our midfield though.
The “he’s irreplaceable” crowd. As if he hasn’t been wildly inconsistent the entire time he’s been here. He’s a fantastic player but yes we absolutely can and probably will be a better team without him. Him leaving won’t be a huge loss and will actually help balance the wage bill quite nicely.
Yeah wouldn't feel like so much of a loss IF the club brought in two midfielders but all reports seem to suggest it will only be one now and then we look at the situation again next summer along with replacing Edi too of course. I would like to believe that selling him has the same positive impact on the overall team as we saw when Coutinho left the scousers but the money involved there was very different.
We've just spent a record fee on a British player in a pandemic and you're throwing your toys out of the pram because we've not signed Varane, Rice, Camavinga etc yesterday. Chill out, the recruitment is going well but we're not going to pay 40m for Trippier and we're not going to pay £70m for Rice.
If Pogba leaves then so be it, but we'll not get players for a good value if we run around at the beginning of the window telling everyone we've got cash burning a hole in our pocket. These teams have to sell to balance their books and the closer we get to the end of the window the more realistic the prices will get. We've already agreed contracts with most of our targets, it's the clubs that are trying to bend us over. I've never understood the people who like to whinge about something that's not even happened yet. You can gripe all you want on September 1st if we haven't signed anyone else and Pogba has left, until then, stop being a soft arse.
There have been multiple reports as far back as last season that said United are in the market for Grealish or x player, but only if Pogba leaves. This isn't a surprise to anyone at the club, they will have a list or targets for sure.
I don't really feel for him like some do, that he went to a club in turmoil and wasted his career. For one, he was paid very handsomely and the fee is still our record transfer. He certainly has failed to live up to expectations. We've had 5 years under two very different managers, both of whom have tried their hardest to cater to his needs, where he just does not seem like a great tactical fit. On his day he's second to none, but that is likely a lot more due to mentality than it is to do with the most optimal conditions.
If we get upwards of 50m at this stage it will be good business. Probably better than tying him down to a new huge contract.
If we get upwards of 50m at this stage it will be good business. Probably better than tying him down to a new huge contract.
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Off he goes then. My concern is that if hes running down his contract that his performances will be even more inconsistent and invisible throughout the season. (If hes picked).
Hopefully they blame it on Marseille fans or somethingOh shit, somebody get that bloody thing down before he sees it.
It could all well be part of his contract negotiations. These kind of stories are par for the course when a player is renegotiating.
Doubtful, I think. Behind all the tabloid press he's always been professional on the pitch and with teammates even when he had a manager who he detested.
Precisely this. We promised him a lot but gave him nothing. He signed up for a new era of Zlatan, Mkhi and Jose. He was warmed into this idea of a new look United but it never happened .
It just wasn't a right fit. Just sell him and move on
We could do with a story along the lines of Juve, Madrid and Barcelona are all waiting until January to get him for nothing, unless PSG act now...
And is looking to leave our most exciting squad in nearly a decade. I think it might be his loss.
It's what we can realistically expect. What would be poor is no replacement. But we better make it a good one, proper top 4 quality. We could easily upgrade on every single one of our CMs and that is the real issue.
Entirely dependent on a few things.
1. Do we believe those figures? It's only one report so I don't.
2. If it is those figures it depends what would be our plan for not having him.
3. If our plan after selling Pogba is to just get a DM and then play then with Bruno and either Fred or VDB then I personally would be very against that idea. I don't think those Midfields will be good enough at top level. Especially if the DM doesn't contain a brilliant range of passing
In this scenario I'd rather keep Pogba and sign a DM as it benefits the team more In my opinion.
4. If our plan is to sell Pogba and make a new midfield with a DM CM and Bruno then I'd be very ok with that. I'd still like Pogba but if he wants to go and we actually will replace him properly then that is fine.
5. For me these things are never simple. Whether he is worth said money is more dependent on what our plans would be without him. Right now if he leaves our Midfield options behind Bruno are very poor. It would need a hell of an overhaul. One that ensures we get the right players in who can hit the ground running. Atleast one of those players would need a brilliant passing range as our current options do not bar Pogba.
So really it's a loaded question. Without knowing the outcome it's hard to say wether its worth it.
I can only guess what I think the club will do. And if I was to guess I'd say IF we sell Pogba we will get just a DM and go into next season with a Midfield that is more solid defensively but is a hell of a lot more limited at servicing our now brilliant attack.
And it would be a hell of a shame to have our attack and not the players to provide it.
That is why the Pogba situation is so complicated. It's not black or white. It's not we should keep or we should sell. Wether its beneficial or detrimental is entirely up in the air.
That unknown is nearly why I'd lean towards keep and risk losing him on the free. Which is apparently some people in the club's thoughts as well.
See that's where the club has fecked this.
When we didn't sign Jadon last summer a DM should have been brought in.
That way we should have sold Pogba and replaced him then this summer.
Now we are in a situation where we Arguably end up with a worse or atleast
More limited midfield on the ball than before.
Hence why so many would risk keeping him and signing a DM.
When i see players like pogba and his agents my respect for players like Cavani only increases.
Never heard too much noise from Cavani or his agent even when he was at PSG
Never heard too much noise from Cavani or his agent even when he was at PSG
Once again, drama around this squad player. Even if he has big highs, he have shown average performances for the most of the time. Just leave the club and Good luck wherever you go.
Yeah scenario 4 is the ideal situation but like you say looks most likely we try to sign a DM and risk losing him on a free
Sell, use the money to get Saul. Move on.
Him and his agent have over stayed their welcome. Ciao.
Him and his agent have over stayed their welcome. Ciao.
True, Any one from Goretzka/Saul/Aouar/Zelineski can vastly improve us as we can play as a team, and we can get one of them for sure with pogba's money.
The agents represent the interests of the players. We as fans just like to pretend it's the agents influencing things to absolve the players of any blame. The agents do exactly what their clients desire. Raiola represents a massive amount of players, but outside of Pogs, Ibra, Donnarumma and more recently Haaland, you never hear much about his other clients, because they aren't agitating for things to happen like the others would be.
We need the money more than we need Pogba stinking up the place for the next 12 months. Him and his fat twat agent will be sat around a desk, posing for pictures while he's signing a new contract elsewhere on January 2nd. We don't need the drama this year.
Just one decent CM or DM will do. Change the formation and go Bruno and VDB or Jesse with Fred, McTomminay, Garner or new signing in the hole behind. We can manage with that for a year.
Personally, I think his replacement was signed last season in Donny Van De Beek. We all knew this was coming.
We'll only sign one midfielder this summer, and i think it'll be a more defensive one. A holder with Bruno and one of Van De Beek/Fred/McTominay playing a more progressive role will give us more against the lesser sides where we struggled last season.
We'll only sign one midfielder this summer, and i think it'll be a more defensive one. A holder with Bruno and one of Van De Beek/Fred/McTominay playing a more progressive role will give us more against the lesser sides where we struggled last season.
I want to add the fact that he offers nothing defensively, he is has been a big liability there
Yep, this is going to cost us 50m.
It's quite clear that Raiola benefits most from his big stars moving clubs, but you're right, players have to take responsibility. If my agent came out publicly saying something that wasn't true, he'd be gone. Pogba doesn't want to be here, and hasn't for a while. When he wants to be somewhere (eg the Euros this summer), he shows up as the player we thought we were getting.
Would you prefer a DM like Rice/Ndidi, a DLP like Neves or a CM like Saul, of course the other option is Camavinga who can offer something defensively and going forward but would Ole play him much is the question and how keen to come here actually is he
Bin him.
The soap opera got old.
The soap opera got old.
Depends what we need I suppose. I don't think signing an all action midfielder is the way to go. It will cost a fortune in fee and salary, and probably not fit the team very well. I think we're probably best of going the route of Neves or Saul as a DM.
Let Bruno and the other AM wander around and keep the other DM back. As long as positioning is great and they can thread a ball through the lines to the feet of the AM's or wingers we should be fine. If we need more legs in the DM position we've always got McTomminay for that but we'll sacrifice passing ability.
The soap opera is as much by our fans as anything else.
It would but in a way, I’d be genuinely interested in seeing who would take him on with the huge wages he’d demand. He’s expensive and this output you mention doesn’t always warrant it.
I’ve not doubt he’d end up somewhere but unless he plays out of his skin while he stays here running his contract down, I just wonder what his value really would be. How much would a club be prepared to pay him?
Feel like Neves offers that passing ability through the lines better than Saul, however we have seemingly been interested in Niguez ever since those Moyes days of summer 2013 so maybe we go down that route instead
A closed friend of mine is a Juve fan. He laughed at me a lot when we bought him back. Guess this time he'd laugh to death I hope.
I hope so. I'll believe it when I see it.
They tend to tighten the purse strings when we get top 4. Sancho should have been last seasons signing really. Could've won us a trophy or challenged in the league potentially if we got him last Summer
Maybe the fan protests have pressured them to do more. Let's see. They didn't invest after Jose achieved 2nd. I hope history doesn't repeat.