We'd be considerably worse off without him. Almost impossible to close the gap on City if he goes this summer - top 4 at best.
Paul Pogba / turned down United offer of 300k as “nothing”
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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If its true hes in no rush to make a decision and willing to wait til the end of the window, United should make the choice for him..
If your signing.. do it by XX date.. If not your being moved on come then. simple as... no more messing the club around
If your signing.. do it by XX date.. If not your being moved on come then. simple as... no more messing the club around
Jesus, talk about covering all bases, he's nailed every one of them
Well he has confirmed that a bid is coming for Pogba.Jesus, talk about covering all bases, he's nailed every one of them
So to sum up PSG are about to make a bid even though they don’t know if Pogba actually wants to join, if we want to sell or if they can afford it.
Love it that they think he's just using them to get a better deal from us, where have we heard that red flag before?
you're absolutely mad if you think that is the case....
PSG seem interested, Pogba doesn't seem interested in renewing so if we can bridge this negotiations to sell him then we have to do it.
question remains about his willingness to play in paris for psg based on previous comments.
seems to me like he's more willing to wait until january to start discussions with madrid about a free transfer so he and mino can get some sort of sign on bonus plus big wages OR see if juve is an option and go back there if CR7 leaves.
Would we? Considering our win rate under Ole with Pogba playing is 51% and is 60.3% without him, I don't get why anyone wants him to stay? Paticularly with all the drama he brings.
I don't mind special players who have the quirky personality traits, but he's not doing the business and should be off to the highest bidder.
.....How can a player even entertain of the idea moving from the best league in the world to...french league?
Like Neymar, he will be forgotten.
Like Neymar, he will be forgotten.
He's treated like dogshit by the press, so it wouldn't be that unreasonable.
If Neymar was forgotten you would not have mentioned him and he would not be still regarded as one of the best footballers in the world
Not if we bought a decent replacement. The stats show full well we don't drop off a cliff when he's not in the team. He's not irreplaceable or that important in the grand scheme of things. It won't be like losing Scholes, Keane or Ronaldo.
He's a good player but not so special that he can't be replaced. I'd say it'd be easier to replace him than Cavani, Shancho, Bruno, Maguire or even Shaw right now.
He's treated like dogshit because he's on a lot of money and is playing like dogshit.
Name me another player on his kind of wages who has such a negative impact on the teams win rate when he plays? He's a complete and utter liability. I don't see what people are seeing in him.
So you basically have no idea what Pogba is thinking yet you seem to “clearly” know he wants to go to Paris? Which one is it?
No no no, you are doing it all wrong, if pogba goes we will crumble to arsenal/spurs level if we are lucky, so we should offer to give him a better contract than Messi, rename old trafford to pogcentral and give him veto on all kit designs, transfers and commercial deals whilst ensuring SAF and Sir bobby blow his agent in the centre circle before each home game.
In all seriousness, *Ivan drago voice* If he goes, he goes. Weve lost better and been fine and will do again. If he stays for a modest pay increase, fine and dandy. If he goes this summer for a halfway decent fee, fine. If he goes for feck all again next summer I hope every time we draw his new club in the CL he gets booed from whistle to whistle.
Because slower league suits him better maybe? And it is not about French league. It is PSG. They have the money.
I’d hate for this to drag on to next season - being allowed to leave on a free (again), the constant speculation about about his next club and the inevitable questions about where his head is at after a poor performance, it won’t take much for the fans to turn on him.
At the same time another undeserved bumper pay rise leaves a sour taste, it’s hard to see any remotely satisfying solution to this other than recoup what we can for him now and move on.
At the same time another undeserved bumper pay rise leaves a sour taste, it’s hard to see any remotely satisfying solution to this other than recoup what we can for him now and move on.
Pogba will want it to happen now, I can't see him waiting a year. At 28 he'll want a good 5 year 300k plus deal which he can get. At 29 next year, I don't think he gets 5 years and 300k.
Didnt we offer him 350k
PSG will also see it as a potential tool to convince Mbappe to stay and renew his contract - look we signed your mate who will serve up those nice through balls for you to score against Credt Agricole Wanderers!
Mbappe will know that PSG won't sell unless they have too, and the owners are well versed in multiple persuasion techniques and can easily get a fleet of journos onside without having to resort to a bonesaw. They should both either move to Madrid or PSG and roll around in their extra cash but be seen as a footnote in football history.
Earn huge money, live in a great city, play in the CL and win guaranteed trophies?
He will still be a big star on the european stage and trend across europe when he scores a fancy goal or gets a great assist.
It's obviously still a step down commercially for him, but he will earn more than he ever needs to worry anyway. Being back in his home country has some benefits too i'm sure.
"Guaranteed"
As manager I would be happy to sell and reinvest in a DM / someone who can play in a midfield 2
As a fan, I would still love it if he signed a long term deal here and knuckled down. Varane, Pogba, Fernandes, Sancho, Greenwood all in the same team
As a fan, I would still love it if he signed a long term deal here and knuckled down. Varane, Pogba, Fernandes, Sancho, Greenwood all in the same team
Mbappe will leave PSG regardless. Mbappe has been a Madrid fan since he was a kid and has been wanting to join since. Pogba joining will have no say in Mbappe's decision. Perez isn't an idiot to be willing to let half of his squad go including his captain and legend just for a slight chance to sign Mbappe. They definitely already have an agreement with Mbappes camp. I'm sure Pogba knows this. You also have Benzema constantly talking about Mbappe joining Madrid the whole summer during the Euros and judging by the fact that he only rejoined the French squad due to Mbappes request you can see where the signs are pointing to. Only question is does it happen this season or next season for free.
Now in terms of Pogba, all of this is to try and get us to increase their wage offer hence the reports of being close to an agreement with PSG, they've been close to an agreement for weeks. I genuinely think Pogbas first choice is to re sign but if we aren't willing to match his demands we may see him leave.
He's done nothing in the past few years to deserve 300k plus. I can't find a single player in the squad who seems to damage our win rate as badly when they play.
The fact we've even entertained his demands disappoints me. If he deserves 300k then any of our players who actually turn up deserve far more. You'd have thought we'd have learnt our lesson from the De Gea contract debacle, atleast he had almost single handedly saved us from mid table some seasons.
Juve was 5 years ago now, there is only so long he can rely on the past.
If PSG want to pay him that, more fool them.
That's what I find hilarious about people being upset a player joins PSG and they all have this unoriginal opinion that a player will be 'forgotten' when they never stop talking about them or PSG. Either way, I wouldn't understand wanting to go to Madrid over United or PSG for Pogba, that club is in shambles and a much weaker team than either alternatives.
Not like he's doing anything to bridge the gap anyway. The sooner we move on from him and the circus around him the better.
His only choice is PSG, nobody else can afford the wages he wants.
I'd rather lose him for free next year than pay out another stupid contract for a player that frankly just is not worth it & hasn't shown any reason why he should be on something like £350,000 - 400,000 a week. At least DDG has several years of great performances.
In summary… Yeah you did lad.
We were top of the league when he got injured in 1st half against Everton last season. We drew that game, then drew with WBA, Chelsea and Palace in the next 4 games before his return. By which time the title was gone.
Rewatch any of those games and see how we barely created chances with only Bruno as a creative outlet in the middle - it made us so easy to stifle and we were terrible to watch. How many creative talents do City have in central positions?
I think the bullishness from some to basically say "f*ck him" because we've signed Sancho and Varane is naive at best.
That's just simply not true. By this logic, only Bruno is "doing the business" out of our midfielders and attackers.
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The whole thing just screams using PSG for more money.
I'm sorry but if the win rate drops by 8% when he plays, what exactly is he doing? I cba to do the calculation but I guarantee that's a stastically significant change that can only be explained by him having a negative impact.
The others are winning far more games when he's not playing.
I'm not one of those, I wouldn't mind him staying, but some are just blinded by something with him.
He'll sign a contract with whoever decides to give that fat turd his £40m commission. Simple as that.
He won’t be getting that commission unless he leaves on a free.
Just put £50m and be done with it. £45m plus £5m adds on is good too. I really can't handle Pogba's saga every year or every half of year, his agent is feckin draining me to death.