Cliche Guevara
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I don’t understand this but hopefully it says ‘no they’re not you cnut’.An bhfuil tú cinnte?
I don’t understand this but hopefully it says ‘no they’re not you cnut’.An bhfuil tú cinnte?
Both are much stronger defensive fullbacks than attacking fullbacks anyway, which allows us a bit more freedom with the front 3 (though I think they be pretty normal with it, having 3 attackers with Pogba in midfield isn't anything outrageous but has the potential to be brilliant in the attack).I’m imaging that Wan Bissaka and Shaw will be heavily relied upon to cover certain areas when certain attacking patterns are happening either making it 3 at the back 3 in midfield or one joining the attack so Pogba and Dybala end up centrally behind the forward and the wide men sticking wide allowing us to hold a press better.
So in attacking phases It would look more like this.
DDGThen defensively it resets to 4231
Lindelof Maguire
Bissaka Matic Shaw
James Dybala Pogba Rashford
Martial
DDG
Bissaka Lindelof Maguire Shaw
Matic Pogba
James Dybala Rashford
Martial
Dybala shot those rumours downs himself.Except his agent made noises in May about him leaving saying he needed a change.
‘I can’t say where he’ll go, but there is a strong chance Paulo will leave,’ said Gustavo Dybala. ‘Of course he’s not happy there.’
‘My brother spoke for himself,’ Dybala told Sky Sport Italia at an event at the Adidas Store in Milan.
‘[Juventus sporting director Fabio] Paratici knows what I want to do next year… to keep playing here. ‘Paratici knows that next year I want to continue here. Then it doesn’t depend on me.
‘Juventus must make its choices with the coach that will come. But society knows it, next year I want to stay here. ‘I have a lot of respect for this shirt and for these fans, and because of this I will only talk about Juventus, not about other teams, because that seems to me a lack of respect.’
I call it as I see it. Imo he is borderline average as a striker and has no place in a top tier team.He's actually a very good player who simply doesn't fit the preconception of a United forward. Guys like Giggs, Cole, Rashford and solskjaer are more what people have in mind here. Pace and the ability to beat a man and typically about 5'10-6'0 are more what were used to rather than the powerhouse centre forwards teams like Chelsea seem to prefer.
Lukaku is a goal scorer and nothing else, Dybala is a goal scorer and an all round better player that will contribute far more in the build up of attacks.Lukaku scored 25 league goals in 16/17 but is seen as a 'must sell' on here. Dybala is seen as a 'must buy' largely because he had a good 17/18 in Serie A.
Maybe it was like the Verrati situation where after a point he had to save face. I mean he still has a contract with Juve. He doesn’t want to alienate anyone.Dybala shot those rumours downs himself.
We've played 4-2-3-1 in every game this pre-season, but we're waiting to crack out the 4-3-3 with Dybala as a False 9 for the "big games"? Okay...My feelings are that we'll vary it. But i don't think we'll go with a diamond, per se.
Big games:
433 with Dybala as a 'false 9'. He'll have freedom to move around, Rashford and Martial will dovetail from the wings to come centrally ahead of Dybala when he drops deep. Could be perceived as a diamond but I can't see us ever giving up width high up the pitch.
Or Dybala RW with freedom, similar to Mata. I hate this role when Mata plays it but Dybala will make a better job of it and AWB will provide energy to cover the right hand side. McTominay will cover from midfield.
Against teams that sit back:
All out attack. Dybala will play behind a striker with Pogba and McTominay behind. A striker ahead and 2 wide players. 4231.
If we bought Bruno then I think Dybala will play RW or False 9 again. Fullbacks will provide width in these games, high press. We'll go for the jugular.
Thats what I'd do and what I think makes sense.
Ole comes in and sees Pogba have a killer period where he scores and creates for fun. For next season, he goes and changes that position? ?I hope he knows what he is doing.Pogba’s defensive contribution criticism is not unfounded. However, we should consider the quality of defense behind him in last seasons. It was a complete mess. Plus, I am convinced he will play deeper than he played under Ole last season. He is a CM.
They still have to talkSo what’s the story with this dude. Has Sarri flicked his fag at him yet ? Or do they still have to talk?
Tbf the formation has something to do with the players at our disposal.We've played 4-2-3-1 in every game this pre-season, but we're waiting to crack out the 4-3-3 with Dybala as a False 9 for the "big games"? Okay...
I vaguely remember us playing Lingard and Mata as a False 9 last season, but it seems dumb to focus exclusively on 4-2-3-1 this pre-season if we're planning on changing formations so much.
I rather we find a system and get players that match it rather than creating formations to fit specific players. It's what got us in this mess in the first place.Tbf the formation has something to do with the players at our disposal.
If Dybala is got, surely Ole and the staff will do whatever they deem is best to get the next best lineup with him in it.
Bruno isnt coming to United.More and more I think about it I can see him playing through the middle with Rashford on the right.
Dybala
Martial - Bruno - Rashford
McTominay - Pogba
More and more I think about it I can see him playing through the middle with Rashford on the right.
Dybala
Martial - Bruno - Rashford
McTominay - Pogba
It doesn't but thats what i should have wrote.I don’t understand this but hopefully it says ‘no they’re not you cnut’.
The medicals are so he can be cleared to train with Juventus, so they're being held off until he has his future sorted.I'm just catching up on the evening developments (or lack of). I read he doesn't need to report for training until August 5th Monday.
So does that mean he won't have his crunch talks with Sarri until then? Or has that happened? If its happened I'm assuming major confirmation of some sort tomorrow? But then one tweet said no medicals or anything until Monday (not sure what that has to do with anything).
Is this guy any good? Who does he play for?-----------Martial
Rashford Dybala Somebody
------Pogba McTominay
Article is in Italian, Pedulla is Sarri's mouthpiece, I believe.There is no need for Paulo Dybala to meet Maurizio Sarri, Juventus are just waiting for him to find an agreement with United. Lukaku has found an agreement with Juventus for €8m per year. [Alfredo Pedulla]
You mispelt Greenwood-----------Martial
Rashford Dybala Somebody
------Pogba McTominay
Yep, also an incredible amount of people desperate to flog you stuff. You get harassed in the streets by people trying to sell cheap tat, it's constant. Didn't have the pickpocketing issue but not remotely surprised that it exists, lots of tourists around so it's easy pickings.I went to Rome last year, an incredible city it must be said, but the sheer amount of homeless people I spotted in the first couple of days was staggering. That and the pickpocketing was beyond belief, my wife and I got stung twice on two separate busses. We were warned about the pickpocketers by both the cab driver and the hotel manager though.
It's funny because we didn't hear anything about these pickpocketers until we arrived in the city. It's like a well kept secret or something.
Ok, Mason "Somebody" Greenwood. I just didn't want to put there Mata or Lingard.You mispelt Greenwood
This is just all I see looking at these teams. Going to be painful if I have to watch this guy as a main starter next yearWe'd use him in either a 4-2-3-1, 4-3-3 or 4-3-1-2:
De Gea
AWB Maguire Lindelof Shaw
Lingard McTominay Pogba
Dybala
Martial Rashford
De Gea
AWB Maguire Lindelof Shaw
McTominay Pogba
Lingard Dybala Martial
Rashford
De Gea
AWB Maguire Lindelof Shaw
Lingard McTominay Pogba
Dybala Rashford Martial
Appreciate this may be your home area. But if you compare those areas to London (Chelsea, Fulham, richmond, barnes, putney etc.) You will find a significant difference.Utter rubbish! Chorlton, Didsbury, Alty, Hale, Cheadle even Urmston is up and coming. Thats before you get into deepest Cheshire.
More and more I think about it I can see him playing through the middle with Rashford on the right.
Dybala
Martial - Bruno - Rashford
McTominay - Pogba
When will you fecking learn that 'tiering' journalists is fecking bullshit?Either that and/or just shit tier journalists making stuff up for clicks while they can until the real news leaks.
Now if a tier 1 says so, I’ll by all means be glad to mention it. But until then, I’m against feeding into the negative gossip machine...let’s see what sort of reports we get today, I’ll have my fingers crossed !
Welcome to Britain where everywhere is a carbon copy of everywhere else and nowhere gets any attention apart from London.To be honest I hated Manchester when I visited from London as it just seemed like a smaller, dirtier place with not as much to do. Doesn't help the weather was bad the times I've gone.
Ps. If dybala reads this then manchester is amazing!
My guess is Ole wants to press and doesn't think Pogba is energetic or present enough off the ball to do it as a 10 well, but that with his long strides he can clean up the space behind well enough, like he does sometimes for France.Ole comes in and sees Pogba have a killer period where he scores and creates for fun. For next season, he goes and changes that position? ?I hope he knows what he is doing.
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Supposed to be super reliable for Sarri as he’s his mouthpiece.
It’s happening.
He did. Thank you for pointing this out to those who want to change history to suit their current agenda. I certainly haven't given up on him yet (as long as he can stay injury free).Sanchez wanted to come here. I'm actually still hopeful we'll see the true Sanchez this season
Cheers man, appreciate itBy all means get really excited by this because it'd probably be refreshing if we hadn't been burnt a million times before by stories like this and transfers like this. I applaud your optimism, genuinely I do.
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Supposed to be super reliable for Sarri as he’s his mouthpiece.
It’s happening.
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Squad dynamics will change. Let's see if we play 4231 all season like you say, or it varies like i think it will.We've played 4-2-3-1 in every game this pre-season, but we're waiting to crack out the 4-3-3 with Dybala as a False 9 for the "big games"? Okay...
I vaguely remember us playing Lingard and Mata as a False 9 last season, but it seems dumb to focus exclusively on 4-2-3-1 this pre-season if we're planning on changing formations so much.