Pep cleverly protecting him from the matchday squad again tonight.
Phil Foden - What Is His Potential?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Meh. He is just saying 18. His time will come
You win this round my friend.
Should have played today as should Muric. In the grand scheme of things the league cup matters feck all. Disappointed despite the win.
I'm not happy
Didn't take City too long to outgrow the league cup.
Not really going to learn anything sitting on the bench watching the teammates win the trophy. Still young, so got a long career ahead but I doubt he'll be thrilled to be an unused sub for the final after playing in the previous rounds.
Pep's team selection clearly said otherwise. Full strength from the players available.
In fairness even when we were shite the league cup wasn't a major trophy in the grand scheme of things.
It's more the fans I'm talking about.
That's absolute shite. You would've loved to have won the trophy in 2005.
Of course I would. What I said is "it wasn't a major trophy". I'd have fecking loved the checkatrade too or whatever it was called in 98/99, does that make it a major trophy?
No, you said in the grand scheme of things. And in the grand scheme of things, the league cup trophy would have been a major trophy for you in 2005.
And you being a tad dismissive of it even now is a bit rich in my opinion. Obviously the league cup alone doesn't warrant a successful season, but still, to be 'disappointed' winning it is a bit of a shame.
I'm not disappointed at winning, I'm disappointed at Pep benching the players who go us there. Foden and Muric should have played today, win or lose. I'll stand by that as more disappointing than winning. It sends out a huge message to the younger players "You are good enough to play this competition we don't care about until its gets to trophy time, then you won't feature."
Laporte hasn't kicked a ball in this competition since he arrived, then he starts the final when he's clearly not up to it, fitness or sickness or whatever. What kind of message does that send to Erik Garcia?
Fernandinho went off today and Laporte too. Hopefully nothing more than stiffness but if we are without both for a month, will it have been a good idea to play full team in the League Cup final? Nope. Will it be nice to say we won a double if we retain the prem again? Of course it will. I'm very disappointed with the team selection regardless of result.
Yes I'm being dismissive but I'd be hypocritical if I was to call it a big win given I called Uniteds a cheap double when Jose won the LC and EL. It is what it is, nice to win? Yup, but was today a kick in the teeth of our youth players? Absolutely.
Holding on to players like Foden, Muric and Garcia is more important to me than the league cup.
Okay, that makes more sense to me. Thanks.
Well said
Mourinho has played Romero in the EL final and that was the right decision....i would have been furious too if De Gea would have played in the final.
For me it was clear that Muric and Foden wouldn't play today for obvious reasons.
Scored again last night and seems to do well when he gets a chance.
6 goals and 1 assist or 1 every 114 minutes has been a decent return. I wonder if Pep will start him against the mighty Swansea at weekend. I doubt it.
He's started every other domestic cup game apart from the Milk Cup Final so I'd probably assume he will
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He really is a quality player.
I have to say though, these comparison's to Silva i just don't see. He ia being talked of as Silva's replacement when he leaves.
The reason for that opinion is that Silva is the key that unlocks the opposition defence. He plays ball's that only a handful of players can make.
Foden on the other hand glides through midfield, always looking to find space and create space for others. The way he gets into the box so often i think we have a similar player to Frank Lampard, amd that is not a complaint.
Any team in their right mind would love a Frank Lampard in their team for the next 15yrs.
Interested to hear what player Foden reminds them of or is he a natural successor to Silva?
I have to say though, these comparison's to Silva i just don't see. He ia being talked of as Silva's replacement when he leaves.
The reason for that opinion is that Silva is the key that unlocks the opposition defence. He plays ball's that only a handful of players can make.
Foden on the other hand glides through midfield, always looking to find space and create space for others. The way he gets into the box so often i think we have a similar player to Frank Lampard, amd that is not a complaint.
Any team in their right mind would love a Frank Lampard in their team for the next 15yrs.
Interested to hear what player Foden reminds them of or is he a natural successor to Silva?
I think some of the Silva comparisons come about because they're a similar build and left footed. I agree that Foden seems to have slotted in a bit deeper than Silva has played for the majority of his career, so we're seeing a lot more of those late runs into the box. I suppose that's a bit like Lampard, but he reminds me more of an early career Paul Scholes? Before United fans jump on me, no idea if he'll ever be as good as Scholes, but I see similarities in style of play.
But back to Silva, I think Foden plays a bit more directly than Silva and will likely score more goals (whereas Silva is an assist machine). I hope he learns from Silva how to control the tempo of games.
he reminds me more of a Luis Enrique type player tbh, he was a goal machine at Academy level and I hope that carries through
I am a fan, even if he plays for City, he impressed me this season big time.
His best position is as an right sided inside forward, similar to Mahrez, in my opinion. Its where he's played for England a lot and makes the most of his goal scoring abilities, cutting inside on his left. We haven't seen it at City in the seniors yet but he has brilliant low shot from distance, he generates a lot of power from it he's a real danger in that position.
I see why he works as a 8 though as his ability to control and turn and transition through midfield is brilliant too.
I see why he works as a 8 though as his ability to control and turn and transition through midfield is brilliant too.
Signed him on FIFA.
England's biggest talent and England's biggest idiot.
What happened?
He doesn't get to play unless City are absolutely 1000% over the line or playing absolute dross.
If they are 7-0 up v Spurs on agg in leg 2 he may get 10 minutes.
He'd be better off at Chelsea.
Pep has absolutely no faith in his ability whatever. He doesn't get enough criticism for his youth policy.
It is crazy how City essentially play their strongest side in all 4 competitions. Swansea away ffs. Give the boy a game.
Think that is unfair on Pep, he does rate Foden. Although he would rather play other players and he should be criticised for the lack of using youth.
He should've started today, no doubt about that. I'd have had B. Silva on the wing, and D. Silva, Gundogan, and Foden as the midfield three.
Mahrez preferably on a beach in Siberia somewhere.
Mahrez preferably on a beach in Siberia somewhere.
Pep has a massive ego and breaking records with title wins and having terms like 'genius' applied to him is far more important to him than promoting youth. He takes zero risks, not even the slightest risk. The antithesis to Sir Alex in that regard.
They don't get to play
I don't think he should be taking risks. The FA Cup is a massively important trophy to win, so he should play the best available team. But I think Foden should've been a part of the best available team today, so he should've started.
I understand the criticism but is there any other 18 year old in one of Europe's top teams (fighting for 3 trophies) who has played as many minutes as he has?