Tinted glass and all that. Most footballers are mocked for their hairstyles, the way they dress, their social media posts etc etc. Pogba fans thinking he is the only one being mocked is cute.
Pogba's contract offer
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@UnitedSofa Pep said his agent was trying to sell him to city the week before we played them. That was never denied by either Pogba or his agent. https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ogba-mino-raiola-offer-manchester-united-city
I don't think the fans owe Pogba a thing quite frankly, given his and his agents behaviour since day 1.
I don't think the fans owe Pogba a thing quite frankly, given his and his agents behaviour since day 1.
It took like four or five years of half-hearted performances, questionable-looking injuries and wildly unprofessional interviews/comments before fans really turned on him. Numerous stories of him wreaking havoc in the dressing room, playing a prominent part of the problem with cliques and leaks and toxicity. Mourinho who, for all his faults, is certainly known for speaking his mind, called him a virus. And it's only this season that fans have really begun to speak up about Pogba in earnest. He is not hard done by. He's not unfairly treated. He has been a blemish on this club, and I for one strongly suspect that he has played a large part in fostering the shitty attitude that the squad has.
Why should anyone make an effort when Paul Pogba, with his record transfer fee and enormous wages, gets to jog around lazily and be "injured" while relaxing in Dubai for 40% of every season? What kind of message does that send? While I don't normally like to doubt injuries, his never seem to result from any visible event that explains the injury. It's always something mysterious in training, or like his latest one where he just suddenly says he's injured and demands to be subbed off for no readily apparent reason. He's not getting kicked to pieces during games, he just quietly gets these anonymous injuries every couple of months. And then he goes on vacation.
The man has had something like twelve injuries in five years, and each and every one of them is something vague like "calf problem" and "ankle injury" and "muscle strain." He missed basically an entire year with what was reported to be an ankle problem. Always something you can't see. Something you can't really disprove. For comparison, he had one single injury in his four years at Juventus. And every time, he's off on vacation and giving interviews about his dreams of Madrid. It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to surmise that he's probably just skipping work. With the wages he's on, that's inexcusable. Given his attitude and statements, he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
Why should anyone make an effort when Paul Pogba, with his record transfer fee and enormous wages, gets to jog around lazily and be "injured" while relaxing in Dubai for 40% of every season? What kind of message does that send? While I don't normally like to doubt injuries, his never seem to result from any visible event that explains the injury. It's always something mysterious in training, or like his latest one where he just suddenly says he's injured and demands to be subbed off for no readily apparent reason. He's not getting kicked to pieces during games, he just quietly gets these anonymous injuries every couple of months. And then he goes on vacation.
The man has had something like twelve injuries in five years, and each and every one of them is something vague like "calf problem" and "ankle injury" and "muscle strain." He missed basically an entire year with what was reported to be an ankle problem. Always something you can't see. Something you can't really disprove. For comparison, he had one single injury in his four years at Juventus. And every time, he's off on vacation and giving interviews about his dreams of Madrid. It doesn't take a conspiracy theorist to surmise that he's probably just skipping work. With the wages he's on, that's inexcusable. Given his attitude and statements, he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt.
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Easily.
We have had many flops e.g. back in the day...Gary Birtles, Alan Brazil. We have had a lot of flops.
None of them cost 89 million, stank the place out for years, had his "injury" record, constantly agitated to leave, earned an absolute fortune, and left for nothing. Again.
There’s no evidence at all he’s been faking injuries if that’s what you’re implying, and why wouldn’t he agitate to leave given we’ve had him during the prime of his career and won absolutely feck all.
Hes up there.
Umm, maybe if he performed to the level he claims to be at? Not dancing in the middle of the pitch giving away the ball cheaply at every possible opportunity?
He’s never claimed to be at any level. He’s never danced in the middle of the pitch. His pass completion is obviously going to be a bit shit given he’s the only midfielder who consistently tries to play forward and the fact that we’ve had no possession structure during his entire time here.
Poor Pogba. He played a rather large part in us winning "feck all". By being largely shite.
Yeah lets blame everyone else except for him.
Yes, I’m sure one footballer has played a large part in us winning nothing for 5 years.
Yes that’s exactly what I said.
I'm glad we agree.
Yes
Some of you seem to believe every story shitty tabloids make up about x player wanting to play for y team
Im glad if hes gone because what ive seen on the pitch with my own eyes has been nothing impressive at all and he just doesn't want to put an extra shift to help a team fighting to avoid the bottom half of the table
But those huge paragraphs about what he supposedly said about dreaming to play for psg you read on here... laughable to say the least
Im glad if hes gone because what ive seen on the pitch with my own eyes has been nothing impressive at all and he just doesn't want to put an extra shift to help a team fighting to avoid the bottom half of the table
But those huge paragraphs about what he supposedly said about dreaming to play for psg you read on here... laughable to say the least
Really? I've always read and heard how he is brilliant in the dressing room and with the youngsters etc. Even reports of him geeing up the team at half time etc
Are you going to quote your sources on that or just make shite up?
It's obviously not worked out as we'd all wanted, but mad to consider him our worst 'value for money' signing ever. There are the 'who?' signings like Angelo Henrique at 4m. The 'whoops let's get em out' signings like Zaha (lost 9m in one season) or Di Maria (lost 12m in one season).
I'd say Mhkitaryan has to be up there. Cost us 30m, was pretty terrible and all we got in return was Alexis Sanchez, would cost us even more, despite playing for Inter.
I'd say Mhkitaryan has to be up there. Cost us 30m, was pretty terrible and all we got in return was Alexis Sanchez, would cost us even more, despite playing for Inter.
233 appearances i think Pogba has made for Man United. How many 7 out of 10 or higher performance would we reckon he's produced in that amount of games?
I’d love to know the same thing. . .
Bruno on Pogba helping him settle.
The whole thing with the Pogba discussion is it’s very rarely a sane argument about his performances, which in the self are enough to want him gone.
The blind hatred for him and attributing the locker room toxicity is pure conjecture. Why can't we all agree the signing didn't go as planned and its best that he move on without attacking the character of the player without any proof? Is it that difficult?
Yeah I don't even have a particularly strong opinion on him either way but it's crazy reading through some of this stuff. Beyond tabloids and Mourinho (who's fallen out with everyone at every club since 2010), I don't think we've heard anyone speak a bad word about him.
By all means quite a lowkey guy in his personal life, and by many accounts one of the most well liked current players in football. Reading through this you'd think he was Greenwood or Giggs
We lost 89m in 6 seasons for Pogba. I will let you do the math.
Yeah I don't even have a particularly strong opinion on him either way but it's crazy reading through some of this stuff. Beyond tabloids and Mourinho (who's fallen out with everyone at every club since 2010), I don't think we've heard anyone speak a bad word about him.
By all means quite a lowkey guy in his personal life, and by many accounts one of the most well liked current players in football. Reading through this you'd think he was Greenwood or Giggs
There was someone on here a few months ago accusing him of cheating on his wife in Dubai...
Grown ass adults can't control their emotions when it comes to Pogba.
Yeah I don't even have a particularly strong opinion on him either way but it's crazy reading through some of this stuff. Beyond tabloids and Mourinho (who's fallen out with everyone at every club since 2010), I don't think we've heard anyone speak a bad word about him.
By all means quite a lowkey guy in his personal life, and by many accounts one of the most well liked current players in football. Reading through this you'd think he was Greenwood or Giggs
To be fair to them, it is largely driven by the press and in particular MEN. I don't know if you remember what they did last month when they quoted a year old article from Rooney that mentioned Pogba and Lingard dancing. Here is what Rooney actually said:
Here is the part that was ignored:
I hadn't seen that but that is pretty shocking, quite obvious character assassination. The irony of that, when Rooney's quote quite plainly speaks about judging the guys character without knowing him, is brilliant!
And people just lap this stuff up.
At least he played over 150 matches for us, a good number of our signings barely managed 20. I'd be looking there first. Was pretty instrumental in our one recent trophy win too.
Don't think Pogba has been as bad as many make out but his supposed lack of competitive suitors is a decent example that he's fallen short of expectations to some extent.
Would have assumed Madrid would have been all over him, I think if he joins Juve it will be a disappointment for him as well. They are 13 points behind the league leaders and have no guarantee to overshadow this emerging Milan team alongside the decency of Inter. Could very well end up still challenging for top four in three seasons or so.
Would have assumed Madrid would have been all over him, I think if he joins Juve it will be a disappointment for him as well. They are 13 points behind the league leaders and have no guarantee to overshadow this emerging Milan team alongside the decency of Inter. Could very well end up still challenging for top four in three seasons or so.
That's always what reputable people say about him. He's a positive influence in the dressing room and almost everyone likes him as a person.
It's always hilarious seeing people calling him toxic/virus when they're just using his performances which haven't been good enough as some kind of barometer of him as a person.
It's fine wanting him to leave because he's not been good enough. No need to make up stuff about him as a human.
I would say 30%. Then about 60% of those have been 5-6 rated and the remainder being under 5.
Does that include the wages spent on Pogba? Whatever that number is, which I would guess sums up to at least another 72m (no idea what he's on but surely it's at least 250k/week, so call it 12m a year and it's been 6 years), the club has spent well over 150m for Pogba. The man is a brilliant footballer, but apart from whatever social media and other sources a revenue to the club can be attributed to him, it just can't be argued that Pogba has been football performance value for the total sum spent on him.
And on his day, Pogba would be in my all world XI so I'm not a hater.
Absolutely baffled that there are still people defending this waste of a player.
Missing in big games, Check
Injured over the coldest months of winter, Check
Below average in 7/10 games, Check
In no contact with the real world, Check
Pisstake Utd and Utd fans again and again, Check
This player has been our biggest culprit towards our rotten spell. Hope he Dab's his way out of the door and takes his dance partner with him too Turin.
Missing in big games, Check
Injured over the coldest months of winter, Check
Below average in 7/10 games, Check
In no contact with the real world, Check
Pisstake Utd and Utd fans again and again, Check
This player has been our biggest culprit towards our rotten spell. Hope he Dab's his way out of the door and takes his dance partner with him too Turin.
Well, Pogbas certainly not welcome any more and United will survive without him!
Plenty. Just as seasons have gone on they have been fewer and fewer.
Bar the City game where he scored 2 and the Leeds game he got a couple of assists I cannot remember a decent performance from him.
This checklist is absolutely hilarious. “Being injured in the coldest months of winter” attributed as a genuine criticism, as if we’re at war in the trenches or something.
I think he’s suggesting that Pogba spent most entire winters in Dubai with injury, in which case he’s correct.