No, it’s Patrick sadly enough..
Police investigating abuse (including alleged racist) directed towards Lingard
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Same as those hobneads abusing Pogba at the end of last season. Booing ok, if you're that upset but this kind of abuse for your own players should get you banned.
I think this is the only thing that can help. Ban those from all sports events.
No, they are not. Not even close, come on.
Do people get paid or something to claim something racist occurred? This is the second time this week that false accusations of racism happened. The video is clear as day that no racism happened and then there’s people making up the story that Fernandes was racially abused which is why Dier ran into the stands. Racism is a serious issue which is being marginalized by false claims.
I was completely unaware of this despite seeing it trending on twitter because I am so used to seeing Lingard being criticized online.
Firstly by disgruntled fans (fair enough) and then being callously mocked by united ran 'accounts' and finally being downright racially abused and receiving messages that make me consider if freedom of speech is even worth it.
I've not angry enough to get personal about someone I have never met, who is in the public eye. I have more important things to worry about.
However.... By happenstance I posted quite recently that maybe someone needed to visit Woodwards condo or something very similar and unbelievably a few days later them nob heads turned up at his house. I still feel bad to this day and even though I would prefer Woodward to leave the club because I think he isnt good enough, I would never wish harm on the man.
Honestly though I find it so interesting how people can get so personal and nasty towards someone who they have never even spoke to.
This forum is moderated superbly, you rarely see personal attacks on our players or staff which is incredible given the size of this place.
Hats off to the mods.
Firstly by disgruntled fans (fair enough) and then being callously mocked by united ran 'accounts' and finally being downright racially abused and receiving messages that make me consider if freedom of speech is even worth it.
I've not angry enough to get personal about someone I have never met, who is in the public eye. I have more important things to worry about.
However.... By happenstance I posted quite recently that maybe someone needed to visit Woodwards condo or something very similar and unbelievably a few days later them nob heads turned up at his house. I still feel bad to this day and even though I would prefer Woodward to leave the club because I think he isnt good enough, I would never wish harm on the man.
Honestly though I find it so interesting how people can get so personal and nasty towards someone who they have never even spoke to.
This forum is moderated superbly, you rarely see personal attacks on our players or staff which is incredible given the size of this place.
Hats off to the mods.
Sure, not all second language speakers are able to understand pronouns as well as native speakers so I will break it down for you.
I (spaghetti) also wouldn’t put it beyond them (the aforementioned Derby fans) to shout racist abuse at them (the players who received abuse), but racism this (the video which the thread is about) is not.
I have similar problems with pronouns in other languages so I can sympathise. I apologise and shall be more careful and clearer in any future posts.
Why on Earth does the person saying this nonsense post this online? Does he think this makes him look good? How has no one battered him?
Unfortunately they’ve always existed. Twats. Hide behind their scummy screens or friends or whatever. Zero courage.
Just don’t spell his name if you meet him.
You should maybe watch the video again .
Somebody next him clear shouts 'n-****' a few times
World going one way, people another.
Listen a little harder. Maybe you’ll get it next time.
Generally speaking — it’s also the omission to acknowledge how insidious racism has become which allows it to be ‘marginalised’.
Nobody does anything of the sort. It's a fecking witch hunt online these days...
You clearly haven’t had the misfortune of hearing people from Derby speak. He says Lingard. That is how they speak. Listen again without trying to hear N...
I was going to leave this thread be the sh*tshow every racial discussion is on here but can you expand?
The UKs majority white media are currently on a witch hunt against a majority white crowd of football fans because one is on video shouting a racial slur?
[I’m not here to debate what you heard, if you didn’t hear it so be it; I’m just intrigued as to how this video & the reaction by many to it is a witch hunt against the dominant culture].
Whoever these people (person) are, they are certainly not fans, of either club. I can imagine Derby County as a club feel ashamed this happened at their Ground.
One positive that might come out of this is that the whole United squad gets behind Jesse and that gives him a boost.
One positive that might come out of this is that the whole United squad gets behind Jesse and that gives him a boost.
If I was Ole I'd have brought the whole fecking squad off the bus and had it out with the cnuts.
Is it racist abuse or is it just abuse? It's hard to tell when you consider the accent but what's obvious is neither is acceptable. The news has been hooked on what goes on with social media trolling lately but it seems as a society people have become obsessed about trying to bully and upset people and to what end? I'm not sure what anyone gets from this kind of behaviour but it really says more about them than anything else. What's surprising is no one gets hold of the abuser and tells him to shut up (it's certainly Derby fans by the way but even still).
It's sad another cultural norm these days is to film things like this rather than step in. I see it all the time in work. People want to get out their mobiles and get as many retweets or reactions as possible rather than engaging any kind of moral conscious and making the said individual realise as a society we don't tolerate this sort of behaviour. If more people did this those responsible would soon crawl back under their rocks.
It's sad another cultural norm these days is to film things like this rather than step in. I see it all the time in work. People want to get out their mobiles and get as many retweets or reactions as possible rather than engaging any kind of moral conscious and making the said individual realise as a society we don't tolerate this sort of behaviour. If more people did this those responsible would soon crawl back under their rocks.
To me it sounded like lingard lingard. Then again i might be wrong as the club will not be investigating it if it wasn’t serious. Anyway imo we fans take it too far with the abuse. Don’t think we as fans are entitled to hurl abuse at players just cause they are not good enough. We did the same with fellaini too. It’s wrong and unacceptable.
Uneducated racist hooligan, who uses football as a front to spout his shitheaded asanine insults.
I am not, and I am not trivializing racism in any way. It just seems to me that a lot of people in this thread (and other places) is OK with the abuse he gets, as long as it's not racist abuse. I am not ok with that.
I can't hear the N* word in the video, but regardless I wan't these w*nkers banned from Old Trafford for life.
Absolute disgrace. Scumbags, it's easy to shout at somebody you know can't retaliate.
Absolute disgrace. Scumbags, it's easy to shout at somebody you know can't retaliate.
Abuse is abuse, come on. It's not okay whether it's racist or not.
I said they were not fans of either United or Derby, because if they were they would not want to bring their clubs into disrepute with such actions.
Many such idiots attach themselves to football clubs, but in my opinion they are not true fans.
To hear that level of hatred being levelled at one guy was really unpleasant, and a bit of an eye-opener, but having the n word thrown at him takes the abuse to a whole different level.
All abuse isn't equal, that word is the preserve of the especially spiteful.
Hahaha, I love how McTominay is considered a hard man by some fans. Why, because he's tall? There's nothing intimidating about that lad whatsoever!
On topic though, as much as I dislike Lingard this is bang out of order and I hope the culprits are banned.
Why are we all saying N word these days?
Because this type of person exists in an echo chamber surrounded by similar tossers. All of his mates and social circle will be of a like mind to him, so when he's posting these videos it's to show off to those in his echo chamber - so yeah, he does think it makes him look good. He lives in his own bubble of bigotry and racism, these people don't think of the bigger picture ie - that people actually exist outside of their bubble who will take offense and report them for it. When you see wankers like this in court saying they regret their actions, what they actually regret is that they forgot 'other people' exist who aren't like them.
These days ?
It’s been around for centuries and is continuing to be so.
We haven’t progressed as far as we’d like. The belief of some people is that as white people they are still superior to others of colour and also blame them for society’s ills so it’s ok to racially abuse them
No, I'm referring to saying "N-word" instead of using the actual word. Obviously racism is still a thing and we should continue battling it.
The liberal left decided that the using the full pejorative word causes offence so we can’t use it....
So just to make sure we’re both speaking the same language here. Shouting the n-word at someone is not racism?
Damn libruls
Of course it is. But, as has been stated several times on this thread, that’s not the case.
People seem to WANT to hear it, which in itself is more racist than anything that can be heard in this video.
Honestly sounds like Lingard to me. I can see how it sounds a bit like n***** but I think it's Lingard.
It's ridiculous. If I were to say something like "He called Lingard a nigger, that's disgusting" how would that offend anyone
In before someone pretends to be offended by me using the word
Don't ask me why but for some reason Derby fans dislike Lingard because of his loan spell there a few years ago.
They gave him all sorts of abuse at the League Cup game last season but applauded Grant who was an ex Derby player.