Redfrog
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The irony is that the best player was free !Our attack is disgustingly bad when you think about the money behind it.
The irony is that the best player was free !Our attack is disgustingly bad when you think about the money behind it.
Did Brighton even have a shot on goal from inside the box, except for the pen? I didn't bother with the post match, these arseholes cannot wait to see us lose and push a real top 4 race.Wetting themselves over Brighton alright and that was no foul by Shaw before the corner that led to the goal so a big rub of the green for them. Had United won in that manner there would be some crying about it.
For all the so-called chances Brighton got the best one they got came from a United error and came off De Geas head. They didn't get chances like the ones Martial, Bruno and Rashford got and wasted.
no I’m saying your assessment in your original post is not correct. You can’t have players who play well for 2 games out of 10 and then think that is acceptable and better than Brighton. That is what the majority of our team playing today was. The rest of the players who are better than Brighton are either injured (Varane and Martinez) or being flogged by having to play every minute of every game with little to no support (Bruno and Casemiro)So you are saying Brighton are better than us and we should just accept that we did the best we could.
This is dreadful.Away record against the top 9 clubs:
Played 9
Won 0
Drew 1
Lost 8
Goals for 8
Goals against 28
Beyond f*cking scandalous.
Mate, I wouldn't back us to beat anyone away from home at the moment, not even West Ham or Bournemouth. I'm hoping we can somehow sneak 3 or 4 points from 2 away games because we can't keep hanging our hat on winning all our games in OT.At least only two away league games to play and no more top 9 teams to play.
Yeah it’s BS. A point would have been fair but there was a time when we used to beat these little teams.Let's be honest for all of Sky pulling their trousers down and wanking over Brighton they won the game due to a fluke penalty that nobody saw but Var, which came from a shockingly bad referee decision to give a free for nothing.
The game was petering out to a nil nil draw before then.
Yeah we were poor in the second half but we didn't deserve that in the end.
I agree with your point that we have played more games than most other clubs and we look knackered. But ETH has to take a good portion of blame. Anybody could see that in 2nd half we stopped competing, but he never made a sub until after 70 minutes, Brightonhad already made 3 subs by then.no I’m saying your assessment in your original post is not correct. You can’t have players who play well for 2 games out of 10 and then think that is acceptable and better than Brighton. That is what the majority of our team playing today was. The rest of the players who are better than Brighton are either injured (Varane and Martinez) or being flogged by having to play every minute of every game with little to no support (Bruno and Casemiro)
we have also played 35 games since the World Cup without a break
so the thought that you have a bunch of imposters who have been around years because club is mediocre
a team getting slaughtered by the fixture list
a team who best players cannot get a breather
and a club who obviously knew we had massive deficiencies after January but got 2 loan players in because they wouldn’t pay
is feckin no way better on paper than Brighton at this point in the season
Still after all that
we should have been 2 up and had 2 great chances up front which were missed by players with IMO weak mentalities
We don't have the players able to play the way he wants us to play.Seeing us pinned down in our box by Brighton hanging on for dear life. Just sad. I expected more from ETH to be honest
Weghorst was free?The irony is that the best player was free !
It really annoys me too. Along with the diving: both Mitoma and Rashford had shocking dives in this match. I just don’t like to see cheating whether from my own players or anyone else’s.What’s the story with Sonny March and his corners? They weren’t within the marking or even on the line?
I don’t think he’ll get time. He has to do what he can this summer and make substantial progress with what he’s got otherwise he’ll be fired I would think.Will take years to get this team to anywhere close to challenging for the title.
Martial
Maguire
Lindelof
Wan Bissaka
Fred
McTominay
Van De Beek
Jones
Wout
Who else is there? De Gea, Dalot?
Which one of these would walk into City or Real Madrid?
Will take a long time to clear out these passengers. Give the manager the time he needs to get rid.
We are pretty poor technically in all positions, I would not say a single player we have is stand out, its going to take a while.Seeing us pinned down in our box by Brighton hanging on for dear life. Just sad. I expected more from ETH to be honest
When you see the replay of the Anthony tackle you'll see it was never a red card, wouldn't have even got to that point had the ref blown for either of the fouls on Rashford or Anthony seconds earlier. The penalty may be indisputable, but it was never a foul in the build up from Shaw. Ridiculous decision and stopped a United break.A quick note on the referee Mariner, who had a very poor game. We got away with several bookings (Gilmour in particular stands out), and Casemiro could’ve easily seen a second yellow card.
The one that stood out though was Antony’s hack. As a guest on your forum and a football lover I pride myself in being polite and fair, but quite how anyone could argue that wasn’t a straight red card is beyond me. It is violent conduct rather than serious foul play, and he was extremely lucky to only see a yellow.
But as I say, he was poor for both sides. The penalty (given by VAR) was pretty much indisputable.
All the best for the rest of the season guys.
- UTARetro
Thanks for this - more rival fans like you would be most welcome in my opinion! Great post.I hope you don’t mind, but I’m cross-posting this from the now largely dead match thread. Mods - apologies if this is against the rules and I will delete.
Just home from the match.
Good game tonight, once again very evenly matched. In first half your lads edged it and were set up beautifully to manage how we play. You weren’t drawn into the press, held a very solid shape and hit us fast and early over the top into the channels, which is the perfect way to play against us. You could tell this was designed by Ten Hag, and worked perfectly.
Antony/Mitoma very early chances aside, we bossed possession and territory as expected, but Rashford looked extremely dangerous on the break and you could’ve easily gone in 2/3-1 up at half time.
I thought we were fully on top in the second half, however. Your lads’ mentality was not right in the second half. Martial, in particular, had terrible body language and frankly looked gassed.
Two very evenly matched games considering the cup semi final, both matches could’ve gone either way, so a “win each” is about right for the par.
A quick note on the referee Mariner, who had a very poor game. We got away with several bookings (Gilmour in particular stands out), and Casemiro could’ve easily seen a second yellow card.
The one that stood out though was Antony’s hack. As a guest on your forum and a football lover I pride myself in being polite and fair, but quite how anyone could argue that wasn’t a straight red card is beyond me. It is violent conduct rather than serious foul play, and he was extremely lucky to only see a yellow.
But as I say, he was poor for both sides. The penalty (given by VAR) was pretty much indisputable.
All the best for the rest of the season guys.
- UTARetro
Thank you for your reply. I am sorry you disagree so vehemently in your views; but that is the beauty of football I suppose. Even neutrals don’t agree!When you see the replay of the Anthony tackle you'll see it was never a red card, wouldn't have even got to that point had the ref blown for either of the fouls on Rashford or Anthony seconds earlier. The penalty may be indisputable, but it was never a foul in the build up from Shaw. Ridiculous decision and stopped a United break.
Also claiming Casemiro should have been sent off after the amount of yellows your players get away with is a but rich. Brighton are a deceptively dirty team who are masters of the tactical foul and condtsntly get away with it.
Actually felt sorry for them with a few of the bad calls they had earlier in the season, but after paying closer attention to their player's antics I've lost any sympathy I had for them. It's shame as they do play some decent football at times.
It is my pleasure. Congratulations on the semi final win against us and good luck for the rest of the season. - UTARetroThanks for this - more rival fans like you would be most welcome in my opinion! Great post.
Beat maybe not but were seconds away from getting a point against Brighton tonight and drew with Tottenham last week and both are better than West Ham and Bournemouth.Mate, I wouldn't back us to beat anyone away from home at the moment, not even West Ham or Bournemouth. I'm hoping we can somehow sneak 3 or 4 points from 2 away games because we can't keep hanging our hat on winning all our games in OT.
He’s up there with Arteta and Klopp for me. Such an unlikeable tantrum throwing cnut.Wow, Roberto Di Zerbi is an ungracious cnut. I don’t give a feck I spelt his name wrong.
Pretty much nailed it there mate. I thought Antony was gone the second he made that wild kick. Casemiro was very lucky, Shithousery everywhere, but that's the game. I love watching you's and tremble playing you's. Quality team. Hope you make Europe.Thank you for your reply. I am sorry you disagree so vehemently in your views; but that is the beauty of football I suppose. Even neutrals don’t agree!
In my opinion this incident is a straight red, and I would angry at my player for doing it;
https://gifyu.com/image/SnMH1
As for Casemiro’s potential second yellow card, I feel the player was very fortunate on this occasion to avoid being sent off. As you’ll see in my post above, I felt the referee had a poor game and should’ve booked a couple of Brighton players, which he didn’t. Any question of bias - on this occasion - is hard to prove as Mariner gave astonishingly poor decisions both ways.
Thank you for your view and input.
So kicking ones legs along the side the the opponent with little or no contact is a red card for anthony . That will make it 3 red cards for Caicedo for deliberately stamping on Bruno's foot then, and don't tell me your guys were not targeting his feet and ankles due to his previous issues. Also seeing that you are so good at videos can you post the clear fouls on Rashford and Antony 30 secs before your post above ? oh thats right Sky didnt re-run them. Was that a pre-match deal so you allowed cameras into your dressing room?Thank you for your reply. I am sorry you disagree so vehemently in your views; but that is the beauty of football I suppose. Even neutrals don’t agree!
In my opinion this incident is a straight red, and I would angry at my player for doing it;
https://gifyu.com/image/SnMH1
As for Casemiro’s potential second yellow card, I feel the player was very fortunate on this occasion to avoid being sent off. As you’ll see in my post above, I felt the referee had a poor game and should’ve booked a couple of Brighton players, which he didn’t. Any question of bias - on this occasion - is hard to prove as Mariner gave astonishingly poor decisions both ways.
Thank you for your view and input.
It's a record you'd expect from a team bottom of the table. In fact, I'm pretty certain Southampton's record against the top half away from home is better than ours. I know they've drawn in Old Trafford and the Emirates this season so those results alone put them ahead of us in that regard!This is dreadful.
Thank you. Good luck in the Final.Pretty much nailed it there mate. I thought Antony was gone the second he made that wild kick. Casemiro was very lucky, Shithousery everywhere, but that's the game. I love watching you's and tremble playing you's. Quality team. Hope you make Europe.
Get some fresh air mate. He is a fan of todays opponent. He presented his views from tonights game from having been in the stadium.So kicking ones legs along the side the the opponent with little or no contact is a red card for anthony . That will make it 3 red cards for Caicedo for deliberately stamping on Bruno's foot then, and don't tell me your guys were not targeting his feet and ankles due to his previous issues. Also seeing that you are so good at videos can you post the clear fouls on Rashford and Antony 30 secs before your post above ? oh thats right Sky didnt re-run them. Was that a pre-match deal so you allowed cameras into your dressing room?
We won't beat City without our top CB'sThank you. Good luck in the Final.
I think it’ll be a tough game regardless, but you’re a hell of a lot better with Lindelöf or Shaw than Maguire, in my opinion. Both looked quality in both games (Shaw brain fart at the end aside) - the problem is Manchester City are just that good.We won't beat City without our top CB's
Andre Marriner