[FreakyJim]

let's say they scored 2 unstoppable goals (debatable) , good teams respond and turn around such games. Yes, we missed two chances but we should create 12 chances and score 3, like a proper team would.

I'm honestly just glad we seem to have avoided relegation (hopefully). Top 4 dreams are just silly. Our place is between 8th and 14th.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Same. This is getting stupid at this point. He's been very unlucky with injuries and a squad that is absolutely bare bones, but we're not even doing stuff the players should have learned at U7 well. Passing is trash, movement is trash, vision is trash, defending is trash, marking is trash, everything all over the board is unforgivably bad. Putting Lingard on tonight was the straw that broke my back. Lingard once again showing us a masterclass in doing sweet feck all.

Ive said this since Ole got hired, I genuinely don't think it matters much who's in the managers seat as the club is rotten to the core, and until we actually make meaningful changes throughout, nothing will change on the pitch. I was hoping Ole would be the man to instill some of the good old at United, but seems the job is too big for him. I struggle to see anyone coming in and turning us into a good team overnight.

I agree that it does not matter who the manager is with these owners. They will always be given players, but not enough players and we will be told it is a rebuild. How long has this rebuild been going? The owners need to go, the board, manager everybody.

 

[Pjisared]

Phew, that’s as bad as it gets.
I don’t remember last season being that clever but we are 11points worse than last year.
Top four you’re having a laugh.
Relegation fodder

 

[GledTheRed]

Pointless getting Poch now, he would look equally as wank with what he's got at his disposal currently.

 

[Barnslig]

Ole leaves, [insert your preference here] replaces him. Nothing on the pitch will change.

We've gone Premier League proven, internationally proven and a shot in the dark in regards to managers since Fergie and you can list the number of good signings they've made on the back of a stamp.

That's the worry. Until nothing happens above the manager, nothing will change on the pitch. feck Ed Woodward and feck the Glazers until to Oblivion.

 

[Delano]

He's got to go. Allowing this utter mediocrity to continue as it is completely unacceptable.

The club is being run into the ground by an incompetent board. But, at the end of the day, we are getting turned over by teams with worse players than us because of our manager and coaching staff.

 

[big rons sovereign]

80 million pounds. 80.
Love Ole, but it's getting ridiculous, not helped at all by that bollock headed turd sat in the stands.
But he's going nowhere.

 

[sunama]

Where the people who after the LFC match, were saying things like, "well we did well" or "we worked hard". And were being positive?
Those people need to come out and admit that our team is dreadful and hanging onto a manager who is clearly failing is a bad idea.
Statistically, this is the worst MUFC EPL season, ever. How is the manager surviving this.

I am calling Ole out, but I also want Woodward gone. In fact, I want Woodie gone, first.

 

[FireballXL5]

How bad does it have to get?

 

[DomesticTadpole]

The players or ole?

Not sure. The players I would imagine, it is never Ole.

 

[Red Royal]

I dont think any manager could do much more with this squad and these injuries. It is unfortunate but best we were looking at was top 4 and up till Sunday we looked like we could get there. Cant blame Ole it is the lack of good squad depth. At least we are shipping out the worst of the lot but it will take another 2 SUMMER transfer windows to address.

I still love this club, United till I die!!

 

[Sandikan]

we're so shit its unbelievable.

On a dreadful night, that phrase and imagining someone chanting it cheered me up.
In a sick gallows humour sort of way. Cheers

 

[Alvaro Maestre]

Was Woodward at the stadium today?

 

[Falcow]

Still sticking with Ole, but we are seriously lacking quality upfront and in midfield. We need major signings or we're on a downward spiral to oblivion.
Club is now officially in crisis.

I'm 50/50 on ole, due to the simple fact that fergie himself would struggle with Mata, pierera and james starting. It may be ole's fault however that we didnt replace lukaku(or maybe he wanted to but no funds, anyones guess really). This is the kind of game where lukaku would have scored a couple of goals.

If we sack ole and dont bring players in, it is not going to get any better.

 

[swedishgloryhunter]

Im usually very positive and I'm still not sure ole out is the way to go but this game.. I really want bill Gates to get a feeling for charity and buy the club. Tesla as sponsor and electrical cars for everyone.
Ole did say we would get ups and downs and I think that basically after each win most of us think this is the turning point. Only to realise 2 games later that we are back to square one. We need a psychologist for the team and if we have one that person needs to get sacked ASAP.

 

[El Zoido]

I get the feeling the players are trying, but we have so little quality in our squad. The few players we have with a bit of quality are injured.

coaching staff should still be able to do better than this. If we are talking to Poch about the job, maybe now is a good time to take over?

They don’t really seem to be trying. They look tired and uninterested, but that is in large part due to having a thin squad. This team needs a summer break already. Ole or no Ole, we need to get serious in the transfer market and get business done.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Where the people who after the LFC match, were saying things like, "well we did well" or "we worked hard". And were being positive?
Those people need to come out and admit that our team is dreadful and hanging onto a manager who is clearly failing is a bad idea.
Statistically, this is the worst MUFC EPL season, ever. How is the manager surviving this.

I am calling Ole out, but I also want Woodward gone. In fact, I want Woodie gone, first.

Isn't this a lot of the problem. He built them up after the Liverpool game, how well they did, they lost. They again likely thought this would be easy again.

 

[Tincanalley]

Letting go Herrera, Fellaini, Lukaku, Young, etc? With no plan to replace these? What is this if not sabotage? Ole. Do a Jose, and keep your dignity and tell it like it is. You objected to their takeover back in the day. Now resign and speak the truth to the fans.

 

[Berbaclass]

Why did we even bother signing Maguire? Had he made one bit of difference?

 

[simplyared]

Worst performance I've ever seen from a Utd team and I've watched them for 55 yrs.

 

[King Eric 7]

Our season has been over since near the beginning of the fecking season. It's only the fact that Chelsea keep dropping points that some supporters have been clinging to the belief that somehow we will get top 4. Chelsea will keep dropping points but we will just drop more than them. Maybe it's best if we drop out of Europe altogether and have next season free of those distractions to concentrate on a good league campaign.

Ole is going to run the players into the ground this month, putting out another strong side against City away when we've practically already lost that tie. We will probably then lose at home to Wolves the following game because the players are gassed and we probably would have picked up another injury by then to another key player.

We need a couple of players in this window just to stop us slipping into relegation form like earlier on in the season. Not holding my breath on that one.

 

[Al-T]

Desperate times these. This isn't progress, it's freefall.

 

[Siorac]

We have a 37.5% win percentage in the Premier League this season. Projected over 38 games, that's 14 wins in total. We're getting 1.4166666 points per game, that's roughly 54 points over a whole season.

Both those statistics point to a team somewhere around upper mid-table, somewhere between 7th and 11th (based on past seasons).

 

[sammyhol]

Can someone with a bit of influence on here make a genuine attempt to get some sort of momentum behind mass walk outs or boycotting home games... They really don't care if you turn up in a green and gold scarf... We are never getting shot of this hierarchy if people keep turning up to games. I know it isn't easy when the ticket is already bought, but surely its worth 10 times the price of entry to start putting some real pressure on these parasites!

 

[sunama]

Just here to state in the midst of the meltdown that we moved the ball as well as could possibly expected in the first half. Martial should have had two, Mata should have had one. They scored with their only chance. The mental weakness which has been evident in our squads since 2013 was prevalent again and the second half was just very, very poor.

But go on and tell me about how Ole is the worst manager of all time and that this is all on him etc

Ole isn't the worst manager of all time, but is definitely MUFC's worst manager in the modern era.
Also, he is the worst manager in the EPL, at this moment in time.

 

[Barnslig]

I agree that it does not matter who the manager is with these owners. They will always be given players, but not enough players and we will be told it is a rebuild. How long has this rebuild been going? The owners need to go, the board, manager everybody.

The problem is the managers hired is just FOTM and scattergun, we have no plan or red herring if you will, managers should be hired to fit a philosophy and vision as to what we want to play. Doesn't matter how many players we buy when the next manager coming in wants to play a completely different style. That's how we end up where we're at now, where we've had 4 managers with 4 different philosophies that have bought players that suit them, and we end up with 11 players on the pitch that is nowhere near being a team. Every manager gets to buy 4-6 players, but never get their full 11, so we end up with 4 half-squads that have no cohesion.

 

[Neo_Mufc]

That was great. Same time next week lads.

 

[Woodzy]

Nearly two thirds into another season and yet again we are going to be talking about new managers, clear-outs and rebuilds. The problem lies beyond the manager here and we have to get some of those higher up cnuts out of this club now.

 

[Alabaster Codify7]

Some times i think this place is a right shit hole.

You and the guy you quoted brightened up my night.
Detailed rant to follow tomorrow.

 

[barros]

I would never chear for us to lose, but maybe this result will force the board to finally do something. We can look at the stats and see all our possession and all our shots, but with all that, we hardly created any chances. This is where Fernandes will fit in...

As for the players, Perierra should never play again. How does he continue to get chances yet Gomes can't get a game? I would rather see us lose with youth than lose with crap players who put in crap performances week after week.

On the positive, Jones actually played well. And that's pretty much where the positives end...

De Gea still doesn't know how to play his position. The second goal is one for the highlight reel but it only happens because De Gea is way out of position. He is almost in the middle of his goal with his feet on the goal line. From that position the player is blocked from seeing the far side of the goal. De Gea should be closer to his post but standing near the edge of the 6. Then the angle is cut off and it's straight at him. Horrible positioning on that one which is too bad because he was doing really well with controling his area tonight by coming out for crosses and finding himself as a sweeper keeper clearing some balls around the 18. But that goal just bothers me so much. It's the basics of the game. I'm done with him. Please start Romero next game...

Shows the goalie doesn’t trust the defenders at all and to be honest they suck

 

[DVG7]

Worst performance I've ever seen from a Utd team and I've watched them for 45 yrs.

we have played far worse in other games this season. Which is the sad part.

 

[momo83]

Fecking hell Neville started this recruitment bs and now Rio regurgitating it. Following the lead.

Whose in charge of recruitment? It’s obvious that the manager decides.

Moyes = Fellaini
LVG = Depay, Blind
Mourinho = Zlatan, Lukaku

 

[FreakyJim]

And now we'll probably go on and sing Bruno Fernandes for stupid money and I've absolutely no doubt he'll turn out shite. Because everything these viruses touch turns to shit.

As long as the Glazers and the people hired by them to run the club are here, we'll always be shite.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

The problem is the managers hired is just FOTM and scattergun, we have no plan or red herring if you will, managers should be hired to fit a philosophy and vision as to what we want to play. Doesn't matter how many players we buy when the next manager coming in wants to play a completely different style. That's how we end up where we're at now, where we've had 4 managers with 4 different philosophies that have bought players that suit them, and we end up with 11 players on the pitch that is nowhere near being a team. Every manager gets to buy 4-6 players, but never get their full 11, so we end up with 4 half-squads that have no cohesion.

That is why everybody has to go, a clean slate. Get the best manager out there and best coaches. Best conditioning coaches and medical staff. Everything is wrong.

 

[Jericholyte2]

What’s the point in sacking Ole? Nothing will change. Other managers will come, shit players will come for the wrong reasons and I’ll end up having grandkids before we’re in any decent shape again (I don’t have kids yet).

 

[DomesticTadpole]

 

[SadlerMUFC]

And what I don't understand is that if counter attacking is our strength, then why do we insist on playing a 4-2-3-1 against shite teams? Do we really need to have 70%? Why don't we play a 4-4-2 at times? We don't have a #10 so don't play one. I know we have our injuries right now but play Martial and Greenwood up front and give up some possession...

 

[Enigma_87]

First win for Burnley at OT for about 50 or 60 years I think?

 

[gerdm07]

Would David Gill come back to run the club? Our biggest mistake was letting SAF and Gill go at once. If Gill had stayed I have to believe things would be much better. He is only 62, so I think he would consider it.

 

[Woodzy]

So what catchphrases will we get from Ole today?