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Newcastle United 0:2 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Wed, 02 January 2019

Oneunited26

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People keep saying that we are giving away chances and better teams will punish us but every team gives away chances every game, even the ones above us.
Better teams may well score but also they will leave spaces when they are attacking. They will be as worried about us as we are them.

We wanted attacking football and that's what you get.

There was only really one time when I was concerned in this game when calamity Jones showed his worst and best (giving the ball away and then a great recovery tackle). I may have forgotten an incident but the rest of the shots were speculative or from difficult angles.
They have the mourinho mentality, afraid we give away chances, hearing John Barnes and his crew of hack pundits totally dismiss what ole has been doing, like he told them to just play football, forgetting what is going behind the scenes what they trying to achieve. This obsession with big name managers is what has done us over with Jose and VG.

Many seem to forget we are a sprinter trying to be a marothan runner again, this whole team is being rebuilt from the philosophy, to the fitness, everything many seem to not do their research and see that we hearing behind the scenes is pretty exciting.

We are five players short, and having to clear the deadwood, it will take a bit of time. I do think if we sacked Jose in March after what he done against Sevilla and what he said, think our progress would have accelerated quicker, because we didn’t sack him in March our development is probably 12 months behind schedule. I do think if we did sack him in March brought in someone like ole to take over, finish the two months, have a good summer and take over the team god knows where we would be by now

apart from his rash challenge on Pogba, I was a bit alarmed at how much time on the ball Shelvey was getting when he came on. He has played something like 30 mins football since last Nov I believe the commentator said. He cut us open with that one pass and then had a decent shot himself. That's with us playing 2 defence minded mids against someone who clearly couldn't be match fit.Maybe nitpicking, but against better teams ie Spurs that could be harmful. Good battling performance from the lads and not taking anything away from that, just offering a word of caution.
The whole team is being reprogrammed, philosophy is changing, the fitness levels have been so bad because of how lazy jose’s whole mind set has been in how he has coached the squad, in how our fitness levels have been so low that we have been near the bottom of the league of distance covered since he joined in 2016. So ole is inheriting a team that has been playing slow out dated dark ages football, with a manager that has set the teams progress back by atleast 13 months. I vouch since December 2017 we have gone backwards, and because the board did not act fast enough by booting Jose in March we behind schedule of the level we should be at

But of course we going to experience a few knock outs, we know that, we are five players short, hit the lowest we have ever been at anfield from a manager who was hell bent and torch lighting our best players, and we almost lost one third of our best players because of Jose Mourinho, the whole club is at ground zero. So if we lose and we know we will, we gonna be realistic, it’s gonna take time to rebuild a village that’s been flooded by a lunatic dictator who didn’t care who he tried to destroy, just enjoy where we seeing a direction from the football club again without the relic causing more damage than it already was at anfield .
 
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GJNJ

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They had lots of shots though.

Could easily have won if they had more quality in attack
If we took all our chances, speculative shots and had been less greedy in the last 10 minutes we would have won by 10.
 

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Newcastle could not have easily won the game. Sure, had they played a perfect game they would have beaten us. And sure, our performance overall was not perfect. But we were by some distance the better side, despite several glorious chances missed.
 

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They had lots of shots though.

Could easily have won if they had more quality in attack
On the balance of chances, we absolutely hammered them. They had a lot of nothing chances.
 

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What I really liked to see was the control we had of the game after 1-0. We made sure to take our time and wait for them to get impatient and then exploit the room. Makes sense, with Ole's emphasis on game management.

First proper tricky fixture over with, and we got a convincing win. If we get points off Spurs, we're starting to look like a force to be reckoned with.

What a difference two weeks can make :)
 

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Phil Jones had an absolute mare for about 25 minutes in the first half.

Under Mourinho we'd have been so defensive and off the front foot that Newcastle would've bundled in a goal or two.

Because we nearly always had the ball and kept it simple, Jones got it out of his head, even if he almost gifted them the lead.

It's little things like that that'll make a difference in the long run. Our players won't always play well and they're all capable of full on brainfarts but if we've got the ball and we're pressing so that we're not so passive when defending then individual mistakes won't matter too much.

We needed that clean sheet too. Be interesting to see the confidence level of the defence come Spurs, where our defenders have had nightmare after nightmare the last few seasons.
 

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Phil Jones and Valencia made them look better than they were. A proper CB and RB, this would have been a much more comfortable win.
 

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Now we get Reading on Saturday (great time to rotate and put Pereira and Fred together), give Sanchez and Lukaku game time, even rest some key players like Rashford, Herrera, Matic and Pogba, if possible build more momentum for Martial/Lingard.

Than we have a whole week before Spurs, with full force.

Feeling good and confident.
 

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Now we get Reading on Saturday (great time to rotate and put Pereira and Fred together), give Sanchez and Lukaku game time, even rest some key players like Rashford, Herrera, Matic and Pogba, if possible build more momentum for Martial/Lingard.

Than we have a whole week before Spurs, with full force.

Feeling good and confident.
Some rotation is needed.

Rashford/Pogba/Matic/Lindelöf/Martial/Shaw should be nowhere near the next game.

Pogba and Rashford especially, Pogba looked shattered at the end and Matic legs cant handle this intensity of games.

I was very impressed by our display against Newcastle, very assured display.

All players look confident, bar Valencia who is looking very poor.
 

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Score Predictions

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  • Man Utd win
  • Newcastle win
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Detailed Results

  • 24% Newcastle 1:3 Man Utd
  • 17% Newcastle 1:2 Man Utd
  • 14% Newcastle 0:3 Man Utd
  • 13% Newcastle 0:2 Man Utd
  • 6% Newcastle 1:4 Man Utd
  • 5% Newcastle 0:5 Man Utd
  • 5% Newcastle 0:4 Man Utd
  • 3% Newcastle 1:1 Man Utd
  • 3% Newcastle 2:3 Man Utd
  • 2% Newcastle 2:2 Man Utd
  • 2% Newcastle 1:5 Man Utd
  • 2% Newcastle 0:1 Man Utd
  • 1% Newcastle 2:4 Man Utd
  • 1% Newcastle 0:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Newcastle 1:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Newcastle 3:0 Man Utd
  • 1% Newcastle 2:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 3:2 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 4:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 2:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 5:0 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 5:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 3:1 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 3:5 Man Utd
  • 0% Newcastle 4:4 Man Utd
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Match Stats

  1. Newcastle
  2. Man Utd
Possession
35% 65%
Shots
14 16
Shots on Target
3 7
Corners
1 2
Fouls
10 9

Referee

Andre Marriner