[Lentwood]

Glad to see a few posters actually looking at the big picture on here! Problems start and end with the Glazers

They are leeches. At a time when City have had £1BN worth of investment and Chelsea have spent £1BN on transfer fees alone under Abrahmovic, Utd have had to pay £700m for the privilege of these cretins running our club

Imagine where we would be with that cash invested in players and facilities! How does that not make people's blood boil? All of the anger being directed at van Gaal should be going their way

 

[stepic]

Glad to see a few posters actually looking at the big picture on here! Problems start and end with the Glazers

They are leeches. At a time when City have had £1BN worth of investment and Chelsea have spent £1BN on transfer fees alone under Abrahmovic, Utd have had to pay £700m for the privilege of these cretins running our club

Imagine where we would be with that cash invested in players and facilities! How does that not make people's blood boil? All of the anger being directed at van Gaal should be going their way

Wow is is 2010 again?

We've spent a shit load in recent years. Money isn't an issue for us, we could spend £100m on a player if we wanted. It's attracting said player(s) that's the problem.

 

[Lentwood]

Wow is is 2010 again?

We've spent a shit load in recent years. Money isn't an issue for us, we could spend £100m on a player if we wanted. It's attracting said player(s) that's the problem.

We're spending now because the Glazers know they have no brand at all if we keep finishing 7th

Should have been investing £100m plus every year for the last 6 years rather than trying to replace the whole squad in 18 months

A wise man used to preach that the best time to strengthen is when you are at your strongest...

 

[Libano]

Perhaps, but United isn't, say, a bank or a large property developer. The colossal amounts of cash that were diverted from team building into paying off debt has damaged the club tremendously. Might we have won more European Cups with better investment? We can't say, but it's tempting to think that we might have brought in that special player or players that would have made the difference. Letting a manager, no matter how good he is, run such a huge enterprise on a shoestring was really taking a risk with the club; well, it was for the supporters. It worked out for the Glazers because of the man in charge of the team. But we're not debt-free yet and I suspect that the money invested since the appointment of Moyes will be a drop in the bucket compared to what's actually needed to bring us back to the point where (a)we're challenging for trophies at home and in Europe each season, and (b) we're bringing through the best young talent in the academy.

Maybe short term. In the long run this is wise economy. Ideally you want to be debt free and flush with cash, like Bayern for instance. Our current situation is not due to lack of investment funds. We've invested loads. The money just hasn't been spent as well as it could have.

 

[Stretford End Phil]

I'd go a step further. I'd say the new man, and his team of assistants, coaches, etc., need to share the same vision. Sir Matt oversaw the club from the top down and so did Fergie. But maybe those days are gone and clubs should be more compartmentalized. There can be no place for backstabbing and underhand tricks at a club like ours. The manager and his team need to be singing from the same hymnsheet.

Agree with you but I think back-stabbing and other petty behaviour is difficult to prevent or regulate. i do think compartmentalisation will become the norm and the game will be a lot more 'clinical' rather than cavalier. By the time Fergie retired he was a very different manager than Busby but I think even he was already the last of that kind of manager.

 

[Stretford End Phil]

too errily the same. Lets hope Mourinho is not going to fiddle someone's wife this time.

Giggs brother has trolled LVG but wants Jose, clearly revenge served cold. You never know, maybe Jose will have an affair with Mrs. Giggs! Potential for a serious sex scandal - where's my camera and big lens?

 

[Stretford End Phil]

We're spending now because the Glazers know they have no brand at all if we keep finishing 7th

Should have been investing £100m plus every year for the last 6 years rather than trying to replace the whole squad in 18 months

A wise man used to preach that the best time to strengthen is when you are at your strongest...

After Moscow?

 

[Stretford End Phil]

It will be interesting to see what happens but if I were to hazard a guess, Van Gaal will resign after the Chelsea game and Mourinho will be installed. Then the fur will fly.

A lot of talk about LVG jumping before being pushed, but I don't think he will give up on a big bag of compensation.

think van Gaal will not be at the Chelsea match mate. too much bad blood as it is. He has lost teh players/staff and most importantly the supporters. If we lose that match, we will be wanting the board's blood. They know this.

Will anyone seriously scream at Fergie or Bobby? I think the business side of the board will take a kicking. But our football experts need to be scrutinised for their part in this nightmare.

 

[Roboc7]

Result and performance were exactly what if expected, we are in a huge mess and season is over unless LBG goes. He shouldn't have been in charge for this game and every game he remains now is just holding us back, we are writing our season off by keeping him.

The team is a shambles and the manager is clueless, once we were behind the game was over.

 

[Red Dreams]

Giggs brother has trolled LVG but wants Jose, clearly revenge served cold. You never know, maybe Jose will have an affair with Mrs. Giggs! Potential for a serious sex scandal - where's my camera and big lens?

right mate. too much of the Christmas bubbly I see

 

[spwd]

It will be interesting to see what happens but if I were to hazard a guess, Van Gaal will resign after the Chelsea game and Mourinho will be installed. Then the fur will fly.
A lot of talk about LVG jumping before being pushed, but I don't think he will give up on a big bag of compensation.

I think they will make it look like he resigned but in reality he was sacked.

 

[Crashoutcassius]

We're spending now because the Glazers know they have no brand at all if we keep finishing 7th

Should have been investing £100m plus every year for the last 6 years rather than trying to replace the whole squad in 18 months

A wise man used to preach that the best time to strengthen is when you are at your strongest...

you are speaking sense but right now everyone is happy to blame LVG.

I personally don't understand how people can't see your rgument given the staggering investments the other two squads have put in... and still throw 250m fee's going out as a reason why LVG should be winning the league

 

[Spock]

The Glazers may be slime but they're not responsible for our horrid run of form any more than they were our great run of form in Ferguson's last 7 seasons.

The club has spent huge sums to bring players that the two managers after Ferguson asked for.

The problems lie at the feet of Moyes and Van Gaal and several of our key players who just aren't able to compete at this level any longer.

 

[Stretford End Phil]

right mate. too much of the Christmas bubbly I see

A few beers with MOTD and their reference to depressing headlines - thought I would give it a go. The evidence trail is out there, just needs to be pieced together!!

 

[NoPace]

Should have posted this earlier, but did anyone else notice on the Arnautovic 1 on 1 miss that our forwards were miles ahead of our midfielders and the gap between our defenders and forwards had to be close to 50 yards?

It looked like a team that either stopped paying attention to tactics or was trying to press but also sit back simultaneously, which is generally considered impossible.

 

[Stretford End Phil]

Should have posted this earlier, but did anyone else notice on the Arnautovic 1 on 1 miss that our forwards were miles ahead of our midfielders and the gap between our defenders and forwards had to be close to 50 yards?

It looked like a team that either stopped paying attention to tactics or was trying to press but also sit back simultaneously, which is generally considered impossible.

The tactics have become more confused of late, borne out of desperation and frustration. What LVG wanted was an elastic system that retains its shape moving forward and back, like a concertina. It's failing partly due to player's inexperience and partly due to their reaction to playing like robots. The gaps and the poor link up play occur when the stretch reaches breaking point. It's been most obvious in the middle during recent games where our defence is cut to pieces by opponent's moving into that space. The Leicester and Norwich goals exposed that space and against Stoke they nearly scored a third from a similar move through the space in the middle.

At the beginning of the season the defence looked solid but the breaks by Spurs and Newcastle first indicated the problem. There were increasing instances during CL games but everyone here was so up for Smalling that it clouded more incisive scrutiny of our defence. Smalling was actually 'saving' us, alongside De Gea, rather than being part of an effective defence. We got away with it a few times but now it seems all opponents are exploiting it.