Premier League Club Ownership

[moses]

The Newcastle takeover has brought this up again. We have our issues, but they pale by comparison with some of the others. In fact counter intuitively, the uber capitalists are hated more than the human rights violating sportswashing types. The utterly despicable murderous types are 'liked' by the clubs fans more than the capital vultures like the Glazers. They do hard maths and take all that won't kill the goose, so we rightfully despise them. The oil billionaires invest heavily as part of the vanity / PR exercise it is. So that really just points to the ire and outrage heavily heavily influenced by self interest, which is stomach churning.

This tongue in cheek list by F365 is quite a frightening list taken as a whole.

https://www.football365.com/news/ranking-premier-league-owners-morals-bin-salman-abramovich-mansour

 

[Champ]

You have to remember that the average football fan doesn't really care past their team doing well.

Any angst shown towards the owners is soon forgotten when a shiny trophy is delivered.

Fans are fickle, and that's the sad truth.

 

[FatTails]

You have to remember that the average football fan doesn't really care past their team doing well.

Any angst shown towards the owners is soon forgotten when a shiny trophy is delivered.

Fans are fickle, and that's the sad truth.

This. The barometer for most fans is the transfer market and which shiny players they can buy, the hell with everything else.

 

[moses]

That's a scary list on a few levels. The amount of non English owners means the Superleague will rear it's head sooner rather than later.

 

[1988]

I'm kind of fed up the Premier League being used by filthy and questionable rich people to market their brand and image. Doesn't help that Manchester United has lost so much of it's identity and charisma over the years and seem content on mediocrity. The Premier League is just pretty meh.

 

[Cheimoon]

You have to remember that the average football fan doesn't really care past their team doing well.

Any angst shown towards the owners is soon forgotten when a shiny trophy is delivered.

Fans are fickle, and that's the sad truth.

Or a shiny new player. Someone should have tried reviving the anti-Glazer campaign the day Ronaldo signed.

 

[redrobed]

That's a scary list on a few levels. The amount of non English owners means the Superleague will rear it's head sooner rather than later.

The Super League is already here. It’s called the Premiership.

 

[Sviken]

The Super League is already here. It’s called the Premiership.

The Super League was meant to prevent what is happening in the PL. I wasn't for it in the beginning, but now I am. With slight adjustments to the structure, it could save the sport. Otherwise, as things stand, we're sinking into the Dark Ages of football.

 

[Wolf1992]

How comes only 5 teams have english owners....

 

[Champ]

Or a shiny new player. Someone should have tried reviving the anti-Glazer campaign the day Ronaldo signed.

Exactly.
No chance that would have happened!

 

[McGrathsipan]

its all a farce and is as about as far removed from the English game as it gets.
The PL is a playground for billionaire owners when most of the fans are working class in the stands. How does that even compute. They dont care and they never will. They will pretend they do. Its all a farce

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

You have to remember that the average football fan doesn't really care past their team doing well.

Any angst shown towards the owners is soon forgotten when a shiny trophy is delivered.

Fans are fickle, and that's the sad truth.

Agreed, and it doesn't even need a trophy to be overlooked. City fans did it from the off, and Newcastle fans did the same on Thursday and the new guys are barely even through the door. There mere prospect of their club's fortunes being better than before is enough to turn a blind eye.

 

[MC89]

There’s only 6 British owed premier league clubs left….

Tottenham
Brighton
Brentford
Crystal Palace
West Ham
Norwich.

 

[NWRed]

The Super League is already here. It’s called the Premiership.

It's actually called the Premier League, unless you're referring to Scotland's top division.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

There’s only 6 British owed premier league clubs left….

Tottenham
Brighton
Brentford
Crystal Palace
West Ham
Norwich.

Do we get a trophy for that?

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Last week I was worried United were heading into a really tough run of fixtures and were yet to find form. This week I am completely apathetic. I don't really see the point in the Premier League right now, it's depressing.

 

[Mickeza]

There’s a certain irony in Sky sacking tv presenters for making sexist comments from its PL coverage or the FA banning players for homophobic tweets they made when they were 6 yet the PL not having any issue with the Saudi state owning an entire club and using it for propaganda purposes. How can we get club owners cancelled? Oh and the whole net carbon stuff that’s started in earnest. I don’t know why any company would want to be associated with an oil regime…you’d think that would be kryptonite for companies advertising wise once the climate disaster that awaits really gets going - including the PL.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Last week I was worried United were heading into a really tough run of fixtures and were yet to find form. This week I am completely apathetic. I don't really see the point in the Premier League right now, it's depressing.

Genuinely at the point myself now where I just want to watch the end 2/3 years of Ronaldo’s career in Red, hope to get a trophy or two, then try to become a much more casual and less-invested fan.

With the super league, hypocrisy of those who run the game, the very obvious bribery we are meant to ignore (Qatar 2022 ffs).. it’s just not something I want to invest much time in

 

[Cloud7]

The Super League was meant to prevent what is happening in the PL. I wasn't for it in the beginning, but now I am. With slight adjustments to the structure, it could save the sport. Otherwise, as things stand, we're sinking into the Dark Ages of football.

The point of the super league was so Real and Barca could get enough money to compete with the English clubs, and so the glazers, FSG etc could get more money in their pockets. Super league was never going to stop the oil clubs from spending money. They invited City and PSG. At this point there’s no merit to the super league for the English clubs. United aren’t going to get more money for transfers from that, nor is it going to stop Newcastle from spending their money.

 

[Red Star One]

https://www.ft.com/content/1855b290-d02c-4f9e-b05b-d67df1ec350e

Grim read on the topic

 

[moses]

The point of the super league was so Real and Barca could get enough money to compete with the English clubs, and so the glazers, FSG etc could get more money in their pockets. Super league was never going to stop the oil clubs from spending money. They invited City and PSG. At this point there’s no merit to the super league for the English clubs. United aren’t going to get more money for transfers from that, nor is it going to stop Newcastle from spending their money.

Ah I think the broadcast rights/dosh for the matches V the other European behemoths would appeal to all of them.

 

[Cloud7]

Ah I think the broadcast rights/dosh for the matches V the other European behemoths would appeal to all of them.

Would it be that much more than they currently make in the PL? I don't recall seeing any actual numbers being floated.

 

[moses]

Would it be that much more than they currently make in the PL? I don't recall seeing any actual numbers being floated.

I think yes it was more, and ring fenced. The English League is the most lucrative of the European leagues and they do make a fortune the years they are in the Champions league, but that's not guaranteed as we know. And the top four 'club' is getting crowded.

 

[McGrathsipan]

Last week I was worried United were heading into a really tough run of fixtures and were yet to find form. This week I am completely apathetic. I don't really see the point in the Premier League right now, it's depressing.

I'm done with it.
It means nothing anymore and I'm genuinely upset.

 

[moses]

I'm done with it.
It means nothing anymore and I'm genuinely upset.

Yeah, I was done years ago, Jose full;y cut me loose. Now I see it like I used to see the NBA as a kid. Amazing athletes with outstanding technical ability but ultimately left me cold because I had no connection to it.

 

[El Zoido]

Football is so soulless now. It’s been that way for a while to be honest, but it just gets worse and worse. Money corrupts everything.

 

[adexkola]

Football has been soulless and if this event was the tipping point for you, especially as a fan of a "traditional big club who 'earned it'" then I have to laugh at you frankly

I'm not sure what's worse, the Newcastle fans celebrating with Saudi flags or fans of other clubs saying, "yeah the Super League, a closed group shutting out 99% of football is the solution here"

Building a truly meritorious sport is impossible right? Let it burn then. Hope North Korea buy Southampton and FC Basel next.

 

[Blood Mage]

That's a scary list on a few levels. The amount of non English owners means the Superleague will rear it's head sooner rather than later.

I'm honestly not sure it's avoidable anymore. United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs are facing an uncertain future in this soon to be oil club dominated league.

 

[Nogbadthebad]

So we now have a situation where a Premier League football player or club official can be fined, suspended or even sacked for bigotted tweets made when they were 12, but we have a club owner who still beheads people for being gay.

Good job premier league.

 

[moses]

I'm honestly not sure it's avoidable anymore. United, Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs are facing an uncertain future in this soon to be oil club dominated league.

Ah no, it's a matter of time. Like Brentford moving to Dublin.

 

[Guy Incognito]

This. The barometer for most fans is the transfer market and which shiny players they can buy, the hell with everything else.

The truth is most fans don't care who owns their club or how the owner makes his money. All they care about is if they put their money where their mouth is, reinvest it on the pitch and see trophies.

Chelsea have gone from a club that was despised (even more) when Abramovich came in, to one that has almost been accepted as a model for others to follow.

Granted some journalists have questioned club owners but the media in general couldn't care less. And those journalists won't refuse to head to Qatar next winter for a WC, all expenses paid.

 

[Iron Stove]

Last week I was worried United were heading into a really tough run of fixtures and were yet to find form. This week I am completely apathetic. I don't really see the point in the Premier League right now, it's depressing.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[FatTails]

Last week I was worried United were heading into a really tough run of fixtures and were yet to find form. This week I am completely apathetic. I don't really see the point in the Premier League right now, it's depressing.

Same here. This obviously didn’t come out of the blue and we’ve been heading in this direction for a long time, but this for me is the nadir. PL, and everything in it, is hard to stomach now.

 

[Lee565]

I'm at the point myself of questioning how much longer I will be invested in club football, it's a shame that in act of defiance towards all these owners taking over clubs purely to rinse them of as much money as possible or to assist with their pr propaganda that the fans dont decide to go back to basics and start attending lower league football to help grass roots football instead of worshipping owners for buying a new shiny toy(s) every summer.