Premier League Festive Season

[Zaphod2319]

We played great first half.

Lukaku coming on and Chelsea going 4-3-3 and we didn't react at all, missed Gerrard on touchline.

We didnt change formation. Pulisic and Alonso were wingbacks second half. Lukaku in the middle of the line and Pulisic out wide made the difference.

 

[Deery]

Atletico are nothing special either.

They are solid CL team that cheat like feck, we don’t even have a game plan let alone game play..

 

[el3mel]

They are solid CL team that cheat like feck, we don’t even have a game plan let alone game play..

Currently we're the better team.

 

[Deery]

Currently we're the better team.

Debatable.

 

[Jacob]

How many pens for Chelsea in the last five league games?

 

[PoTMS]

How many pens for Chelsea in the last five league games?

Off the top of my head, at least 5. Two against Leeds, two against Villa, one against us.

 

[jakko]

Kovacic is nowhere near fit enough to be playing. He looks absolutely gassed already.

He is still class though.

 

[CloneMC16]

We're far better than Atletico and it would be a failure to get KOed by them.

I really don't think we are. Our team is nothing special. Unless Ralf gets us playing at a much higher level, it will be a pretty close game.

 

[Dec9003]

We played great first half.

Lukaku coming on and Chelsea going 4-3-3 and we didn't react at all, missed Gerrard on touchline.

I don’t think you did really, some nice passes into the final third but pretty poor when you got there. A lot of sloppy attacking play.

 

[charlenefan]

Jorginho gonna be Chelsea's top scorer again with all these pens they're getting

 

[Anustart89]

How is leading with the knee like that not 'endangering the safety' of an opponent? I guess nobody's watching Brighton-Brentford but Nørgaard jumped in from behind in an attempt to head the ball and put his knee in the neck of a Brighton player.

 

[Deery]

Man, Boxing Day evening match Brighton v Brentford sorry but I’m out, who the feck thinks this shit up?

 

[Anustart89]

Brighton should've had a pen there, handball on Jansson above head height.

 

[Anustart89]

@GifLord

Can you post a gif of Brighton-Brentford @ 17:15-17:20 just to illustrate what the fecking point of VAR is if they can't spot that?

 

[big rons sovereign]

Ooh look, there's nothing wrong with maupay. I am surprised.

 

[big rons sovereign]

VAR needs to bring in bookings for that kind of shit from canos. It's just pathetic.

 

[tomaldinho1]

How is leading with the knee like that not 'endangering the safety' of an opponent? I guess nobody's watching Brighton-Brentford but Nørgaard jumped in from behind in an attempt to head the ball and put his knee in the neck of a Brighton player.

Players usually get away with it because you can argue they’re protecting themselves having the knee up and it’s part of a jumping motion. Like when Lindelof nearly killed that Sociedad defender (it wasn’t his fault as the defender didn’t jump but it ended up being dangerous).

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Trossard gives Brighton the lead.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Beautiful finish from Maupay. 2-0.

 

[CloneMC16]

What a finish by Maupay. Right in the corner.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

What a finish by Maupay. Right in the corner.

Emphatic finish.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Sensational dive that

 

[lex talionis]

It should be within the Laws to book both players in that situation.

 

[Anustart89]

Players usually get away with it because you can argue they’re protecting themselves having the knee up and it’s part of a jumping motion. Like when Lindelof nearly killed that Sociedad defender (it wasn’t his fault as the defender didn’t jump but it ended up being dangerous).

But that means that you judge the action not on the action itself but on what the other player does. Like you said, it's incredibly dangerous to jump full pelt with your knee at head height just because "usually" the other player jumps. I mean, you can't run around windmilling your arms and then say "well usually the opponent ducks when I go flailing my arms" and expect to get off scot free.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Welbeck come on for Trossard. Onyeka on for Jensen.

 

[duffer]

Chelsea fans, what do you make of the Atkinson thing? Is it all in our heads that you get him all the time and that he's very kind to you lot? I mean, I'm definitely suspecting confirmation bias on my part but what do you lot make of it? @duffer @rest of chelsea fans

Never noticed him being good/bad but a quick bit of research says we do worse off with him.

He's reffed 45 Chelsea PL games since he started in 2005/06. Of those we've won 25 (55%), drawn 9 (20%) and lost 11 (25%).

We've played 608 games since the 2005/06 season (not including this one). We've won 60%, drawn 21% and lost 19% of those.

So, in summary, feck Martin Atkinson.

 

[Anustart89]

Never noticed him being good/bad but a quick bit of research says we do worse off with him.

He's reffed 45 Chelsea PL games since he started in 2005/06. Of those we've won 25 (55%), drawn 9 (20%) and lost 11 (25%).

We've played 608 games since the 2005/06 season (not including this one). We've won 60%, drawn 21% and lost 19% of those.

So, in summary, feck Martin Atkinson.

The first bit is what I was mostly shooting for when asking.

The win/loss ratio would be a bit of a misnomer since he's positioned himself as one of the supposedly better referees, so would be more likely to get you against tougher opposition, which could explain the lower win percentage, no?

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Sanchez has had to make a couple of good saves to keep Brentford out.

 

[duffer]

The first bit is what I was mostly shooting for when asking.

The win/loss ratio would be a bit of a misnomer since he's positioned himself as one of the supposedly better referees, so would be more likely to get you against tougher opposition, which could explain the lower win percentage, no?

Sure, if he does get the better games that would make sense. I really can't be arsed checking that though!

In reality, I think refs genuinely do their best to be fair, they're just shit rather than biased so you are going to end up with some refs making clangers against the same sides.

 

[Anustart89]

Sure, if he does get the better games that would make sense. I really can't be arsed checking that though!

In reality, I think refs genuinely do their best to be fair, they're just shit rather than biased so you are going to end up with some refs making clangers against the same sides.

Exactly the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who supports the club who gets the most favourable treatment from the refs. I rest my case.

 

[duffer]

Exactly the sort of statement I'd expect from someone who supports the club who gets the most favourable treatment from the refs. I rest my case.

Come, that's just ridiculous. Everyone knows all our bung money goes into the FA Cup draws and heating those balls up.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Brighton clear off the line.

 

[big rons sovereign]

Where's the Brentford that stuck 3 up Liverpool?

 

[Shane88]

Just saw Zaha's red. What a petulant shithead.

 

[tomaldinho1]

But that means that you judge the action not on the action itself but on what the other player does. Like you said, it's incredibly dangerous to jump full pelt with your knee at head height just because "usually" the other player jumps. I mean, you can't run around windmilling your arms and then say "well usually the opponent ducks when I go flailing my arms" and expect to get off scot free.

Yh I don’t think it’s right but I don’t really see a solution that won’t make players dive even more than they do today. I think you have to try and put it in context, so the Lindelof one I think the ref has to give him a red (even though it was never deliberate) because it’s a flying knee to the face but only because the laws of the game are so strict around head contact & he also missed the ball. It’s a tough one though, for example what do you do if he’d won the ball and scored but still made contact? There’s a point where you have to accept it’s a contact sport and the defender was an idiot.

 

[Red Dreams]

If Villa get rid of their England CB they will be a pretty good side.

 

[Che Guevara]

People can slate Lukaku all they want but nobody in our team is capable of that run he just made. We are all made out of cornflakes.

He definitely changed the game, he made a huge impact.

 

[Wolf1992]

He makes a good point tbh. What Mings did here for instance was a joke

There is a huge quality gap between City, Liverpool, Chelsea and the rest of the league when it comes to defending.

 

[Klopper76]

Good opportunity for United to improve their GD a bit here considering what Spurs and Arsenal did yesterday.

 

[Cheech Wizard]

‘Godfather of German football’ mention already by Tyler.