Protest at Old Trafford

[Maticmaker]

I don’t think they give a shit. They know full well they are not wanted. No way they “hurry up” for anybody, their message to the fans is clearly “feck off and do as you want, we’ll sell when we’re good and ready so feck off some more”.

Since ever home match a section of the crowd shouts they want to kill one of them, we will be lucky if they don't sell us to North Korea... a parting shot so to speak.
However we know it has always been about money for the Glazers they will have to make a judgement on how much for, and just as importantly, when to sell.

Coming down the pike.... massive amounts to rebuild or new build OT, even bigger transfer fees (although they must be confident in ETH on this) and the risk the current bidders may get fed up and go somewhere else. There is also the risk of a government regulator being appointed, the 'super league' will return, albeit in a different format, which will bring in more money from the mass media companies, and may tempt the Glazers to hold on, especially if they cannot get the price they want now, but in truth that still looks a way off and it will depend whether other PL clubs join.

Fans never had a say in the Glazers purchasing the club, never had a say in running the club and most certainly wont have a say in selling the club. Que Sera Sera!

 

[Fluctuation0161]

The moral of this story is, it's naive to think.

Or different people have different opinions?

 

[Fluctuation0161]

No correlation between the two whatsoever.
We are one of the most indebted sports organisations in the world and under the current economic conditions the banks are constantly raising the interest rates.
We are running out of cash - literally down to 30m in cash reserves.
Our stadium is falling apart, our training ground needs major investment.
The squad needs significant investment if it is to compete in the richest league in the world.

But yeah, it's the protests.

5 of the points bolded above have applied to United for years. Nothing new.

its a big assumption that the protests didn't make a difference. Especially when you consider the impact of protests across history.

Also, we had the first response from a Glazer in over 15 years after the protests. Yes it was only bullshite PR but still it got their attention and that of our sponsors. Which ultimately will have a financial impact which is the language the Glazers understand.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...s-response-to-fans-over-super-league-protests

 

[El Presidente]

5 of the points bolded above have applied to United for years. Nothing new.

its a big assumption that the protests didn't make a difference. Especially when you consider the impact of protests across history.

Also, we had the first response from a Glazer in over 15 years after the protests. Yes it was only bullshite PR but still it got their attention and that of our sponsors. Which ultimately will have a financial impact which is the language the Glazers understand.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles...s-response-to-fans-over-super-league-protests

For every protest that has worked, there are 5 that didn't. Otherwise we wouldn't have the concept of dictatorship.
Also, you can ignore a problem for so long before it becomes unavoidable, which is what is happening with Old Trafford. There are multiple other factors, but anyway, let's agree to disagree.

 

[Yakuza_devils]

If Glazers decided to stay we really need another riot at OT. These leeches have ruined our club enough that it's untenable for them to stay.

 

[wangyu]

I think as long as the stream of income through season ticket sales, general ticket sales, merchandise keeps and sponsorships keep coming in I don’t think protest will make the owners anxious.
If I lived in Manchester I would not stay at home out of protest.

 

[Señor Sloppy]

Protests have value but in this day and age they need to be part of a more sophisticated campaign to really hurt those you're targeting in the areas they care about.

 

[RobbieBerns]

Honestly think the more effective tacting would be a unified social media campaign aimed at the sponsors, get something like #boycottMUsponsors going and just get an incredible amount of anecdotal tweets tagging specific brands about how as fans we’re refusing to financially support any of our sponsors until the Glazers sell. If Adidas all of a sudden start getting tens of thousands of tweets about how fans are actively switching over to another brand of trainers that data is sure to trickle up high enough to get on the radar of someone important.

 

[K Stand Knut]

Honestly think the more effective tacting would be a unified social media campaign aimed at the sponsors, get something like #boycottMUsponsors going and just get an incredible amount of anecdotal tweets tagging specific brands about how as fans we’re refusing to financially support any of our sponsors until the Glazers sell. If Adidas all of a sudden start getting tens of thousands of tweets about how fans are actively switching over to another brand of trainers that data is sure to trickle up high enough to get on the radar of someone important.

No it isn’t because it would never happen for starters!!!!

It would just lead to loads of keyboard warriors saying they’ll do stuff that they won’t.

Besides, how many on of United’s sponsors do people realistically use a lot of?? New mattresses?? Whiskey? Wine?

The concept of British based football fans not turning up to a football match in their tens of thousands in a pair of Adidas trainers is just not going to happen. It’s a staple brand for match-going football fans

 

[Señor Sloppy]

Honestly think the more effective tacting would be a unified social media campaign aimed at the sponsors, get something like #boycottMUsponsors going and just get an incredible amount of anecdotal tweets tagging specific brands about how as fans we’re refusing to financially support any of our sponsors until the Glazers sell. If Adidas all of a sudden start getting tens of thousands of tweets about how fans are actively switching over to another brand of trainers that data is sure to trickle up high enough to get on the radar of someone important.

It wouldn't even need to be such an explicit threat. Such companies are generally extremely sensitive about their branding - simply tagging them en masse as "the financiers of parasites" etc. would cause alarm.

 

[RobbieBerns]

It wouldn't even need to be such an explicit threat. Such companies are generally extremely sensitive about their branding - simply tagging them en masse as "the financiers of parasites" etc. would cause alarm.

Agreed, anything that shows up as out of the ordinary levels of trouble for the people paid to monitor these kind of things at said companies.

 

[hp88]

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[Lecland07]

18 minute boycott. What's the point?

 

[DomesticTadpole]

18 minute boycott. What's the point?

What can they do? Storm the pitch and like Blackpool fans have a sit in? Sounds fun actually.

 

[MancunianAngels]

What can they do? Storm the pitch and like Blackpool fans have a sit in? Sounds fun actually.

Good luck. I just hope those people are prepared for GMP to knock their doors at 3am and have a 2 year banning order. There's always the added threat of a prison sentence.

 

[MancunianAngels]

There's a lot of people screaming "get the game called off".

I just hope they're in the thick of it should anything like that happen.

I fear for some poor 18 year old having the next few years of his life ruined because people on the Internet are calling for something big to happen and the people doing the initial screaming on twitter are nowhere to be seen.

 

[arthurka]

Why are people talking shit about this, at least they are doing something.

 

[AFC NimbleThumb]

Why are people talking shit about this, at least they are doing something.

This./

Andy Mitten has this fanbase summed up perfectly.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Why are people talking shit about this, at least they are doing something.

I agree with this

I do kind of agree with the poster who questioned the 18 minute sit out though. I don’t see what good that does when tickets are paid for. I feel like it would be better to go in but devote the first 18 minutes to loud constant strong anti-Glazer chants and banners

 

[NextSeason]

It sounds like a decent show of solidarity has been arranged for tomorrow which the fans involved with deserve credit for, power to the people and all that.

However, I think the message of “Full sale only” does not hit the right tone as that is essentially a demand to accept the Qatari bid which doesn’t represent the desire of the whole/majority fanbase. The more important message for me is simply “Glazers out” which I think we are more united on. Once again, credit to those involved - I would have probably joined it myself had I not been out the country.

 

[bludsucker]

I agree with this

I do kind of agree with the poster who questioned the 18 minute sit out though. I don’t see what good that does when tickets are paid for. I feel like it would be better to go in but devote the first 18 minutes to loud constant strong anti-Glazer chants and banners

Well the 18 minutes sit out is visually quite impactful. Also they can then protest for the whole match. Sends a powerful message to the current as well as potential new owners of where the fans stand regarding the glazers.

 

[RopersReturn]

These Glazer bastards feed off discord and hate, they’re like trolls, just stop feeding them by boycotting attendance.

 

[Kinsella]

It sounds like a decent show of solidarity has been arranged for tomorrow which the fans involved with deserve credit for, power to the people and all that.

However, I think the message of “Full sale only” does not hit the right tone as that is essentially a demand to accept the Qatari bid which doesn’t represent the desire of the whole/majority fanbase. The more important message for me is simply “Glazers out” which I think we are more united on. Once again, credit to those involved - I would have probably joined it myself had I not been out the country.

I agree. People are letting perfect become the enemy of good.

 

[whitbyviking]

Should have a sit out / sit down protest in front of the turnstiles if the numbers are big enough. Not exactly blocking others going in, and sat peacefully singing United songs.

Huge visual impact of fans outside the ground peacefully sat in solidarity. Might get more to join too instead of walking through the protest

 

[Rhyme Animal]

Regularly forcing games to be cancelled is sadly the only way they’ll possibly start to get the message.

 

[klayton88]

I want to see Jamie Carragher shit his pants again

 

[Bastian]

Surely, "if you're with the Glazers, you can feck of Bumcliffe" is enough. I suspect he cares about his public persona and would rather not walk into a high profile thing with everything toxic. It's too close to home.

 

[klsv]

Why are people talking shit about this, at least they are doing something.

You see, it's because these protests and boycotts won't make any difference.

What we really need to do is to get absolutely ape shit mad and rage post in the other thread until our hemorrhoids pop.

 

[BluesJr]

I do think doing this on a non televised game is a massive error.

 

[hp88]

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[hp88]

Haven't paid much attention to the 1958 but the thought of the feckers staying here should really should bring us all together.

 

[wangyu]

I do think doing this on a non televised game is a massive error.

What do you mean non televised? I can watch the game on tv, I'm in Belgium currently.

 

[clarkydaz]

What do you mean non televised? I can watch the game on tv, I'm in Belgium currently.

folks in the UK cant watch it without streams

 

[BluesJr]

What do you mean non televised? I can watch the game on tv, I'm in Belgium currently.

The protest won’t get the coverage on TV in the UK, beyond a quick news story.

 

[wangyu]

How odd you can’t watch a United game in the UK! The world upside down, how is this even possible!

 

[clarkydaz]

How odd you can’t watch a United game in the UK! The world upside down, how is this even possible!

yeah, we pay through the nose to fill the stadiums and watch a select handful of TV games, while you watch it all for peanuts. Crazy

 

[wangyu]

yeah, we pay through the nose to fill the stadiums and watch a select handful of TV games, while you watch it all for peanuts. Crazy

Well it is not exactly peanuts, at least not for me but I get what you say. Also I can’t watch league cup and champions league games.

 

[SAF is the GOAT]

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Really hope they'll have success with bringing inside all those boycott banners and signs because in last other times the security in OT always ban and confiscate them

 

[Yakuza_devils]

Well it is not exactly peanuts, at least not for me but I get what you say. Also I can’t watch league cup and champions league games.

Just saying, there are a lot of other ways to watch not only PL but all leagues/competitions and many other world major sports on very good live quality without costing a bomb.

 

[VivaObertan]

I agree. People are letting perfect become the enemy of good.

I like this phrase.

Well done to the 1958 for organising yet another protest. Shame on the internet fans in here moaning or posting "alternatives".