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Recently developed club rivalries

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Unless I'm remembering it totally wrong, I think I'm right in saying there was a group of United and Chelsea players who played online video games together. From what I recall it came to light when United players did a couple of poses for goal celebrations with imaginary rocket launchers etc. It was then in the press that it was supposed to be a fun jibe at Chelsea as they'd been playing something like Battlefield or Call of Duty against each other. Think it was 06/07 season.
Was that in a head to head game or a random one? I can't recall a celebration of the like being done against us. Iirc i think it was a casual Scott Sinclair interview i heard it because he wanted in :lol: I'm trrying to find it but no luck so far.

Either way it was definitely around that time we both heard about it so there's likely something in it.
 

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Was that in a head to head game or a random one? I can't recall a celebration of the like being done against us. Iirc i think it was a casual Scott Sinclair interview i heard it because he wanted in :lol: I'm trrying to find it but no luck so far.

Either way it was definitely around that time we both heard about it so there's likely something in it.
Found it now, it was a couple of random games.

Everton

And again against Benfica - Vidic and Ferdinand trying to sneak up on the enemy :lol:

What I can't find is any of the news articles talking about it.
 

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A weird one is Palace and Brighton (I think, correct me if I’m wrong) and I’m sure that started fairly recently. Well, last 15 years or so.
 

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I think the Chelsea vs Man Utd rivalry never reached the bitterness of Keown vs RVN, for example.
Plus Mou was "humble" back then and deeply respected (feared?) SAF.
 

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Because i can't speak for your side but in general there's not really any serious animosity from our side to United and it seemed to be a similar story on the pitch when we were competing for trophy's. Fergie and Jose may aswell have been sucking eachother off and i heard quiet rumours that the English players on both sides use to lowkey meet up socially.
Yeah that's all probably true. Direct title rivals for like 7 years , FA Cup final, Champions League final, and yet it never got ugly or anything.

Big part was the media I think, Arsenal used to get such a favourable press during our rivalry with them used to wind me up. All the journalists were in love with Wenger.

Chelsea have never had good press really, I've never thought they were a favourite of the media.
 

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We used to totally occupy their Boothen End every time. The shame of it. Must’ve played them there 4x in one season, early 70s, with league cup and FA cup replays and 2nd replays. Since all seaters came in, and we’re limited to 2000 tickets instead of the 15,000+ we used to take there, they’re suddenly hard and have developed a “rivalry “ which was nowhere to be seen when it was a level playing field on the terraces. Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime. Like West Ham etc.
 

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Us and City? Only really developed in 2008 when they became a blip on our radar...
My father-in-law from Hazel Grove who grew up during Bell and Summerbee's time might disagree with your statement.
 

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A weird one is Palace and Brighton (I think, correct me if I’m wrong) and I’m sure that started fairly recently. Well, last 15 years or so.
It’s been a big rivalry since the 1970s.

Brighton and Crystal Palace had both been founding members of the Football League Third Division in 1920, having transferred over from the Southern Football Leaguewith other founding members; the two clubs had met in regular Southern League matches since 1906. The rivalry, however, had its beginnings in the 1940s and 1950s when the clubs met 21 times in twelve years – including two memorable back-to-back matches on Christmas Day and Boxing Day, 1951 – and it came to full force in the mid-to-late 1970s.

The teams had not met for 11 years, when they played each other on the opening day of the 1974-75 season in the Third Division, Palace having been relegated from the tier above the previous season. Brighton were managed by Peter Taylor, following the recent departure of Brian Clough, Palace by the flamboyant Malcolm Allison. Extra police were deployed to control the 26,000 crowd, far higher than Brighton's usual attendance, but there were multiple arrests and fighting between fans inside and outside the Goldstone Ground, with excessive drinking due to the hot weather blamed for the trouble.[6][7] Brighton won 1-0, Palace winning the return fixture 3-0.

The following season witnessed both clubs vying for promotion. The league game between the two sides at Selhurst Park was played in front of a crowd of more than 25,000, Palace's highest home attendance for two years. Malcolm Allison complained that Brighton had secured their 1-0 victory by their overly physical tactics.[8] The Evening Argus reported that the game had been played in a "cup-tie atmosphere" with "the cut and thrust carried through with the zest of deadly rivals".[9]

The return at The Goldstone in Hove saw over 33,000 crammed in to the stadium to see a third tier match. That game, which the home side won 2–0 with two goals by Sammy Morgan, is generally attributed as giving birth to Brighton's nickname of 'Seagulls' – later adopted officially by the club (see below) – as it was sung on the terraces as a counter-chant to Palace's 'Eagles!'. The home side's victory was overshadowed by more crowd trouble, as referee Ron Challis threatened to abandon the game due to Palace fans throwing smoke bombs and other missiles.[10]

Both teams narrowly missed out on promotion that year. In the summer of 1976, Terry Venables became Crystal Palace manager and Alan Mullery Brighton manager. The pair had spent time together on the field as players at Tottenham, and Venables was second in command to Mullery's captaincy at the club; Mullery has described this power dynamic as a reason for the rivalry between them. Whilst at Tottenham, Venables reportedly did not have a good relationship with his manager Bill Nicholson, believing him to have a negative attitude that "drained him of enthusiasm". Venables also felt that he was not appreciated by Spurs fans, in contrast to Mullery, who was Nicholson’s and the fans’ favourite.[11]

The two young managers were set the same task: promotion from the Third Division.[4]

The first meeting between the clubs that season was the league match at The Goldstone on 2 October, which ended 1–1; during the game, as once again smoke bombs were thrown onto the pitch and play was stopped three times throughout the match.[11]

The clubs were then drawn together in the first round of the FA Cup, played on 20 November at The Goldstone; the match ended 2–2. After the game, Mullery was critical of his opposite number, bemoaning what he perceived to be Palace’s negative tactics.[11]

A replay took place at Selhurst three days later; the match finished 1–1 after extra time and the teams faced a second replay. Brighton were described as dominating much of the play in the two games, which both attracted attendances of almost 30,000.[4] This attendance figure was a significant increase on both club's averages for the season, with Palace averaging just 15,925 that season and Brighton 20,197.[11]

The second replay, postponed twice due to bad weather, took place at Stamford Bridge on 6 December.[4] Palace took the lead after 18 minutes through Phil Holder. Brighton dominated much of the game's remainder, with striker Peter Ward having a goal disallowed shortly after as he was adjudged to have handled the ball, although Palace’s Jim Cannon later said that this only occurred due to him shoving the Brighton striker. In the 78th minute, Brighton were awarded a penalty which was converted by Brian Horton only to be disallowed as referee Ron Challisadjudged that players had encroached upon the penalty area. Horton retook the penalty and this time it was saved by the Palace keeper, Paul Hammond. The match ended 1–0 to Crystal Palace.[4]

After the final whistle, Mullery approached Challis to discuss the decision and was escorted off the pitch by police while flicking 'v-signs' and swearing at the Palace supporters in the stands. The Brighton manager then allegedly entered the Palace dressing room, threw five pounds on the floor and told Venables: "Your team's not worth that." Mullery was fined £100 by the FA for bringing the game into disrepute.[4]

On the 12 March 1977, the two sides met again in the league at Selhurst and Palace ran out 3–1 winners.[4] A crowd of 28,808, nearly double Palace’s average for the season, was present.[11]

That season both teams were promoted with Brighton finishing as runners up, two points in front of Palace. Brighton also changed their official nickname from the Dolphins to the Seagulls, in direct opposition to the Crystal Palace nickname the Eagles.[4]

The rivalry continued with the clubs meeting with the same objective and same managers in the 1977–78 season and 1978–79 season, this time vying for a spot in the top flight of English football.

In 1978, Brighton missed out on promotion on goal difference, finishing in fourth place and well ahead of Crystal Palace in ninth, but the head-to-head battle continued the following season. Both of the league meetings between the two teams in 1977-78 finished level.[11]

Brighton completed their 1978–79 campaign top of the league. Palace, though, still had a game in hand to play against Burnley due to postponements throughout the season; Palace won the match, played in front of 51,000 spectators, and took the title by one point.[4] For the second time in three years, the two clubs had been promoted together. Palace also boasted the bragging rights head-to-head with Brighton that season, after they had defeated Brighton 3–1 at Selhurst, a win that would prove vital at the end of the season, while the return game in February was goalless.[11]

The two clubs subsequently met in the top flight of English football in the 1979-80 season, and Brighton emerged with the bragging rights early in the season, by beating Palace 3–0 on Boxing Day 1979 at the Goldstone.[11]

Mullery states that the rivalry was fuelled by both competition between the teams and directly between the managers. Terry Venables, highly controversially, left Palace in 1980 for Queens Park Rangers while Alan Mullery left Brighton in 1981.
 

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Purely footballing sense, Zenit since gazprom money vs cska and Spartak. Dynamo Kiev vs Shakhtar is last 20 years too.
 

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Arsenal vs Barcelona (while Wegner was in charge)

Madrid vs Bayern M. (since the early '00s actually)
I know the early '00s was when Bayern and Madrid really had a few classic matches but is that really when their rivalry started? I would say in 1987 EC semi final there was quite some hate between the two sides already, with Juanito stomping on Matthaus face and getting a 5 year ban from football. Not familiar with history before that but I also saw a post somewhere of Bayern thrashing Madrid 9-1 in the 70's.
 

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I've got a few mates who are city fans and they all seem to hate spurs.
That stems from the 81 FA cup final. Apparently they hate the fact that Ricky Villa's goal is replayed so much and supposedly it got a bit naughty after the match.

My old man was there and he told me the City fans were giving it out as much as the Spurs. Pathetic on both parties but not unexpected in the 80's.
 

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I know the early '00s was when Bayern and Madrid really had a few classic matches but is that really when their rivalry started? I would say in 1987 EC semi final there was quite some hate between the two sides already, with Juanito stomping on Matthaus face and getting a 5 year ban from football. Not familiar with history before that but I also saw a post somewhere of Bayern thrashing Madrid 9-1 in the 70's.
Hmm, you're right. Nice history lesson.
 

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I don't know for Barcelona's fans about PSG, but it's true that we started to hate Barcelona recently.
It's my favorite, pure pettiness with both clubs sending letters to the UEFA complaining about the other.
 

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Fulham - Liverpool it seems. This snippet from their forthcoming, official match day programme.

https://www.football365.com/news/fulham-launch-surprise-attack-on-liverpool-dalglish-fans

‘Realising that Roy was not going to win the league immediately and angered by his failure to buy the world’s best players, who would obviously jump at the chance to sign for the team that had dominated Europe a mere three decades earlier, fans quickly lost patience.

‘Demonstrating the cool-headed pragmatism that has endeared them to the footballing public, the Liverpool faithful demanded Roy’s replacement be an exciting young manager befitting the club’s stature.

‘Setting the time circuits to 1991, the club’s executives piled into the waiting DeLorean and floored it to ’88, returning with a fresh-faced and energetic Kenny Dalglish, ready to usher in a new era of dominance spearheaded by future club legend Andy Carroll, a shrewd purchase at just £35m.

‘Unfortunately, however, Alex Ferguson and Wayne Rooney recovered the time machine, went back to 1991, stole the Sports Almanac and brutally laid out Jan Molby at the ‘Enchantment Under the Sea’ dance.

‘This left the club with no option but to drag present day Kenny out of the pub and into the dugout, skewing the timeline and culminating in an underwhelming eight-place finish and Kenny’s departure (again).’
 

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City have been trying to create a rivalry with Liverpool since the bus incident. It's all very 1 sided though.
 

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Was going to start a thread about this... what a random (yet pretty funny) dig that is.
The collective desperation for Liverpool not to win the league by every other fanbase in the country has been heartwarming.

I thought it was just Utd and Everton fans but it feels like everyone wants them to blow it.
 

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Chelsea V United suddenly became a huge game until an even bigger oil company bought City.
 

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Utter delusion. Hodgson was catastrophic for Liverpool and had them hovering just above the bottom three. Dalglish was a dinosaur by the time of his second spell but still improved them beyond recognition during the last few months of the season.
It's a humorous feature in a programme, you must take life very seriously.
 

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Are there many that have just started in the last 10-15 years or so?
Just a few "new" rivalries that doesn't last that long.

Started roughly around 2005.
  • Chelsea vs Arsenal, it's really more of a Mourinho vs Wenger. Drama, mindgames and football battle. Ended after Jose left, and renew for a season I think once he's back.
  • Chelsea vs Liverpool, Mourinho vs Benitez, and somehow Lampard vs Gerrard to a lesser extent. Ended after Jose and Benitez left (don't remember which one go first).
  • Manchester United vs Chelsea, more of a professional competitive rivalry with 2 close but ambitious and competitive managers with ego i.e. SAF and Mourinho respecting one another but on the pitch and conference room/interviews playing mind games of words, two top teams go head to head. Rise of United from this Chelsea rivalry. Ended after Jose left. Couldn't feel the professional rival heat when Ancelotti is in charge. Also there is a strong heat because of fecking Kenyon.
Season 2016/17 and 17/18.
  • Manchester United vs Chelsea. Renewed once Jose is the new manager vs his old club. More of a Mourinho vs Conte and Mourinho vs Chelsea. I mean Jose and Conte did exchange number of words on the pitch and on the press eg. Jose mocking Conte's hair. Ended now started towards the end of 17/18, both managers just dropped it.
Funny how Mourinho is involve in all of those "new" yet short-lived rivalries. The Media sure love having Jose around, many stories to tell and sell hot papers. I think we should also consider Abramovich with his money pumping to Chelsea quick rise to the top as the factor.

I think rivalry needs to have that which I would call "heat".
So basically I don't consider the City vs Liverpool now as a rivalry.
 
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United vs Chelsea stands out in recent times, for pure football reasons, alhough I don't think there's a lot of bitterness among most of the fans from either club.

The Manchester derby was always a big game, but has grown much bigger recently because of pure oil reasons.