"Red Devils" - did you know

[NewtonHeathFC]

do you know where the name spurs (no pun) from ?

forgive me for being captain obvious - when we were originally formed as Newton Heath, in accord with the name of our local district, we were called the "Heathens"
from there as United made the short journey over to bank street , a similarly short distance our nickname traveled from "The Heathens" to "The Red Devils".

 

[londonredmaniac]

In 1882 the Hotspur Football Club was formed by boys from a local grammar school and Hotspur Cricket Club. It is thought that the name Hotspur was associated with Sir Henry Percy (Sir Harry Hotspur) who lived locally in the 14th century. The team later became Tottenham Hotspur to distinguish itself from another team called London Hotspur.

or summat to that effect

 

[giggsy1078]

Is it true that the Vermin's YAWN was a United song? I heard it originated from the time following Munich.

 

[NewtonHeathFC]

In 1882 the Hotspur Football Club was formed by boys from a local grammar school and Hotspur Cricket Club. It is thought that the name Hotspur was associated with Sir Henry Percy (Sir Harry Hotspur) who lived locally in the 14th century. The team later became Tottenham Hotspur to distinguish itself from another team called London Hotspur.

or summat to that effect

im sorry mate , but i doubt people want to know about spurs

if you are referring to the first line of my post i merely used that as a verb

 

[londonredmaniac]

im sorry mate , but i doubt people want to know about spurs

if you are referring to the first line of my post i merely used that as a verb

i wondered what it was doing in this ere united forum

i thought the red devils came from the Salford Rugby Club emblem

 

[BahamaRed]

i thought the red devils came from the Salford Rugby Club emblem

It does. And Sir Matt brought it over.

 

[NewtonHeathFC]

i thought the red devils came from the Salford Rugby Club emblem

really ? i never heard such a thing ...
the version i know seems to make sense , but i cant argue much since i know nothing of Salford Rugby Club ...
any pictures ?

 

[londonredmaniac]

really ? i never heard such a thing ...
the version i know seems to make sense , but i cant argue much since i know nothing of Salford Rugby Club ...
any pictures ?

none i can locate right now, but i thin fredthered, GB and KK know of the emblem, ahve a word it seems a popular theory amongst united supporters

 

[Dannyboy]

Salford lost the uniqueness of their red devil nickname when local soccer team Manchester United decided to replace their "Busby's Babes" nickname following the Munich crash. Matt Busby liked the sound of "Red Devils", thinking a devil was more intimidating to opponents than angelic babes and Manchester United copied "The Red Devils" nickname.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salford_City_Reds

Not the most reliable but source but you get the idea

 

[NewtonHeathFC]

i just did a little reading and you are right about the Salford Rugby Club...
it seems that after being The Heathens, we were "The Reds", "United", "Busby Babes" and then The Red Devils. the devil appeared on our emblem only in 1970's

i was wrong

 

[londonredmaniac]

as far as i know its Benficas nickname as well

 

[Dannyboy]

and Kaiserslautern I think

 

[twitchchris]

Is it true that the Vermin's YAWN was a United song? I heard it originated from the time following Munich.

I've heard this as well. If true then I can't complain. It's a show tune.

 

[sonymobby]

as far as i know its Benficas nickname as well

Nope nothing like that... -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benfica

About our history and details... Wikipedia is your friend, along with Google of course and YouTube and Football Manager 2007!!! Anw, for anything you want visit this -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C.

 

[Nem 7]

You're a committed fan, we believe you.

 

[londonredmaniac]

Nope nothing like that... -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benfica

About our history and details... Wikipedia is your friend, along with Google of course and YouTube and Football Manager 2007!!! Anw, for anything you want visit this -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_United_F.C.

fair do's thats me told

 

[sonymobby]

You're a committed fan, we believe you.

Don't be so ironic. Can't you sense the sarcasm in my post?

 

[northroad1878]

Oh dear. But fair play for admitting you know nothing about our club. As with so many, though, I'm sure you "love the history and tradition of the club", ie: winning.

Couldn't give two shits about Benfica.

And YAWN is corrupted beyond words but even I have sung it at Old Trafford as an adult and I'm not yet 40.

 

[sonymobby]

Oh dear. But fair play for admitting you know nothing about our club. As with so many, though, I'm sure you "love the history and tradition of the club", ie: winning.

Couldn't give two shits about Benfica.

And YAWN is corrupted beyond words but even I have sung it at Old Trafford as an adult and I'm not yet 40.

Was this directed to me or the starter of the thread?

 

[northroad1878]

Thread starter. The latest hero of the cnutish element of the mods, who is now embarrassed as an utter fraud.

 

[77]

YAWN can clearly be heard from the United fans after we won the 77 final at Wembley.

 

[dicko]

YAWN can clearly be heard from the United fans after we won the 77 final at Wembley.

and fans of every other club in the seventies.

 

[NewtonHeathFC]

Thread starter. The latest hero of the cnutish element of the mods, who is now embarrassed as an utter fraud.

did you renew your season ticket yet ?
you really have no principles , maybe you should sell FC to a yank so you can afford some web space and maybe run a forum, who knows maybe some unemployed pansy will agree to be a mod , maybe you'll get a proper discussion goin.
why dont ya go start workin on it and save us your bluenose moaning ?

 

[green demon]

YAWN can clearly be heard from the United fans after we won the 77 final at Wembley.

Liverpool fans were singing it in the sixties. One old female United fan claimed she and her friends started singing it at OT, I think just after Munich, and it caught on. It was originally from the musical show "Carousel" and so would have been widely known in the fifties so that story may be right.

As far as I'm aware it never fully caught on with United fans in the way it did later with Liverpool ones. However, Celtic fans claim they were singing it well before Liverpool and that the Scousers stole it from them. Of course, I personally find it hard to believe that the Scousers would steal anything.

 

[p_ps_sock]

Oh dear. But fair play for admitting you know nothing about our club. As with so many, though, I'm sure you "love the history and tradition of the club", ie: winning.

Couldn't give two shits about Benfica.

And YAWN is corrupted beyond words but even I have sung it at Old Trafford as an adult and I'm not yet 40.

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8751_2157929,00.html

 

[Midfield]

as far as i know its Benficas nickname as well

and Kaiserslautern I think

AC Milan, South Korea and Belgium national team as well.

 

[northroad1878]

http://www.football365.com/story/0,17033,8751_2157929,00.html

Football 365?!? I think not.

I feel like a know-nothing JCL just looking at the link.

 

[p_ps_sock]

Football 365?!? I think not.

I feel like a know-nothing JCL just looking at the link.

point proved me thinks

must feel good to look down upon all of creation knowing that you alone are the possessor of the truth, that you alone know what makes a fan a fan and everyone else is just plastic.

and attempting to label me as a know-nothing johnny come lately simply because I disagree with you is pathetic and immature

 

[sonymobby]

AC Milan, South Korea and Belgium national team as well.

It's "The Reds" where as United are "The Red Devils"... so you can put Liverpoo in that list.

 

[Wibble]

Oh dear. But fair play for admitting you know nothing about our club. As with so many, though, I'm sure you "love the history and tradition of the club", ie: winning.

Couldn't give two shits about Benfica.

And YAWN is corrupted beyond words but even I have sung it at Old Trafford as an adult and I'm not yet 40.

NHFC has added more to this site in his so far brief, but welcome, stay than you ever have. So settle the feck down.

 

[Rob Bowman]

Oh dear. But fair play for admitting you know nothing about our club. As with so many, though, I'm sure you "love the history and tradition of the club", ie: winning.

I am just curious what point you see in posting this? Where do you think this is at all helpful? NHFC seems a wonderful chap and I am sure I like most posters could care less about meeting any of *your* criteria for being a United fan. Have a great day in your fortress of self-righteousness .

 

[TheGreyParrot]

You'll never walk alone was sung by everybody for years, was a generic football song like here we go, or you're gonna get your fu**in' heads kicked in.
Many mancs used to sing "You'll never walk again" but the original version was often sung by reds. Not sure when it became a solely Liverpool (or Celtic if you must) song, but like blue moon at city it wasn't originally or solely theirs and don't let any scouser tell you otherwise.
Even is captured on some cup final you tube clip with United fans singing it but can't be bothered searching it out so you'll just have to trust me.

 

[NewtonHeathFC]

some cup final with United fans singing it

http://youtube.com/v/yH3LJ8TFbdM.swf

 

[Bearded but no genius]

Northroad in 'acting like a twat' shocker.

I wish he'd boycott message boards.

 

[benst86]

Oh dear. But fair play for admitting you know nothing about our club. As with so many, though, I'm sure you "love the history and tradition of the club", ie: winning.

Couldn't give two shits about Benfica.

And YAWN is corrupted beyond words but even I have sung it at Old Trafford as an adult and I'm not yet 40.

I really doubt too many people know where "Red Devils" comes from orginally, especially as it's hardly used anymore. Does someone have to have a chronological timeline of events since the 19th century for you to call them a fan or something?

 

[northroad1878]

Just have a clue. Even the 90s fan should know this one as it's in the "Promised Land" video.

Basic knowledge.

 

[p_ps_sock]

Just have a clue. Even the 90s fan should know this one as it's in the "Promised Land" video.

Basic knowledge.

what exactly is your problem?

give us the profile of someone who's allowed to support United then, is it being born within certain boundaries, being born before 1980, what criteria do you apply when judging who's a worthy fan?

btw what's your opinion on fans of, say, 50-55 years who were captivated by the babes but not neccessarily from manchester and have been supporters ever since? glory hunters?

 

[Nem 7]

Don't worry about northroad, he'll be dead soon enough.

 

[northroad1878]

Don't worry about northroad, he'll be dead soon enough.

I am feeling a little peaky now you come to mention it.

 

[benst86]

Just have a clue. Even the 90s fan should know this one as it's in the "Promised Land" video.

Basic knowledge.

Maybe not every fan conforms to your idea of having to watch videos, read books, visit museums etc.

Maybe some fans are happy with just going to the games?

I've was born in 1986, and don't have any United videos, am I worthy of supporting United?