Redcafe Future Stars

[Solius]

Ok so I'll keep the OP updated with the names of players people suggest and we'll keep tabs on how they all turn out in the next few years.

Give us a name and they'll go on the list, obviously it must be talented youngster, not Titus Bramble (however much better than Zidane he may be), maybe if it's some really obscure one that nobody else has heard of I'll put your name by them, so you can be credited/mocked when they succeed/flop. If you want to put yourself out there as somebody who can spot a future world beater, just request I stick it under the 'Stick your neck on the line' section, state whether you think they'll will be dead certs to be top tier players, or whether you think they'll just be solid players.

Also, see a player on the list you think will flop? Or won't reach their potential? Let me know and it'll go in the Flop category.

Also let me know if you think someone shouldn't be on the list to begin with if you think they're already 'established/successful' i.e Rafael, who I'll put on there to start with anyway.

I'll start us off.

Benik Afobe
Aguilar
Karim Ait-Fana
Marc Albrighton
Thiago Alcantara
Anderson
Andrigo Araujo
Serge Aurier
Andre Ayew
Jordan Ayew
Khouma Babacar
Holger Badstuber
Mario Balotelli
Ever Banega
Barry Bannan
Younes Belhanda
J. Bennett
John Bostock
Ryad Boudebouz
Robert Brady
Yacine Brahimi
Tom Cairney
Sergio Canales
Tom Cleverley
Connor Clifford
Pierrick Cros
Fabio Coentrao
Douglas Costa
Philippe Coutinho
Lucas Da Silva
Rafael Da Silva
Fabio Da Silva
Mats Moller Daehli
David De Gea
Stephen Defour
Nathan Delfouneso
Eren Derdiyok
Eric Dier
Graham Dorrans
Alan Dzagoev
Abdel El-Kaoutari
Jay Emmanuel-Thomas
Christian Eriksen
Jonny Evans
John Fleck
Emmanuel Frimpong
Kevin Gameiro
Ganso
Giulliano
Mario Gotze
Antoine Griezmann
Marek Hamsik
Lukman Haruna
Eden Hazard
Jordan Henderson
Javier Hernandez
Abel Hernandez
Benedikt Höwedes
Tom Huddlestone
Hulk
Josip Iličić
Juan Manuel Iturbe
Javier Munoz Jiménez
Phil Jones
Stefan Jovetic
Vaclav Kadlec
Shinji Kagawa
Gael Kakuta
Martin Kelly
Josh King
Bojan Krkic
Toni Kroos
David Luiz
Romelu Lukaku
Thomas Müller
Federico Macheda
Marko Marin
Marvin Martin
Fabrizio Marini
James McCarthy
Josh McEachran
Ryo Miyaichi
Yohan Mollo
Ataku Morimitsu
Ravel Morrison
Victor Moses
Anthony Mounier
Lucas Moura
iker Munian
Marc Muniesa
Yann M'Vila
Adil Nabi
Tomas Necid
Jamie Ness
Manuel Neuer
Neymar
Sotiris Ninis
Oliver Norwood
Gabriel Obertan
Alex Oxade-Chamberlain
Mesut Ozil
Daniel Pachecho
Javier Pastore
Alexandre Pato
Davide Petrucci
Lucas Piazon
Miralem Pjanic
Paul Pogba
Aleksandr Radic
Aaron Ramsey
Jean Rigier
Emmanuel Riviere
Sergi Roberto
Jack Rodwell
Danny Rose
Nuri Sahin
Mamadou Sakho
Eduardo Salvio
Alexis Sanchez
Sandro
Davide Santon
Gregory Sertic
Xherdan Shaqiri
Jonjo Shelvey
Wellington Silva
Moussa Sissoko
Chris Smalling
Pablo Souza Arao (Souza)
Raheem Sterling
Danny Stevens
Daniel Sturridge
Neven Subotic
Suso
Wojciech Szczęsny
Adel Taraabt
Jon Toral Harper
Ryan Tunnicliffe
Anthony Ujah
Danny Welbeck
Connor Wickham
Jack Wilshere
Danny Wilson
Axel Witsel
Mapou Yanga-M'Biwa

Stick your neck on the line

Dead Certs

Chuks Aneke and Ignasi Miquel - peterstorey
Neymar, McEachren, Smalling, Luiz, Bannan, Banega - Raees
Jamie Ness (injuries permitting), David De Gea, Marc Albrighton and Ganso - phelans shorts
Danny Welbeck, Jack Wilshere - Solius
Juan Manuel Iturbe, James Rodríguez - Arruda
Jose Baxter, Danny Welbeck, Aaron Ramsey - Fiskey
David De Gea, Rafael Da Silva, Thomas Müller, Paul Pogba, Alexis Sanchez, Chris Smalling, Jack Wilshere, Javier Hernandez, Stefan Jovetic, Manuel Neuer - Irish Legend
Ravel Morrison - redwhiteblack
Mario Götze, Coutinho, Juan Manuel Iturbe - AlwynP
Rafael Da Silva (best RB ever) - ecantona7
Christian Eriksen - B9
Toni Kroos (future best midfielder on planet) - Red Indian Chief Torn Rubber
Jonny Evans, Anderson - Feed Me
Danny Welbeck - sajeev
Jonathan Dos Santos, Eric Dier, Jose Angel, Sokratis Papastathopolous - St Jimmy (Newbies)
Ozil to be next Zidane - Boss
Dale Jennings - Tumbling Dice
Ever Banega to be in top 5 midfielders in next four years (2015) - Ekeke
Theo Walcott - MacMUFC
Gylfi Sigurdsson (best set piece taker in the world) - Snow

Solid Players

Andrea Ranocchia & Leonardo Bonucci - x42bn6
Barry Bannan, Tom Huddlestone - Solius
Marc Albrighton, Fabio Da Silva, Jonny Evans, Marek Hamsik, Eden Hazard, Javier Pastore - Irish Legend
Matthew Leckie - Flying Fox
Matty James (for United) - Fiskey
Shane Long will be a Premiership mid table prolific goalscorer by 2013 - Pogue Mahone/Scrumpet

Not stated/Other

Tyler Blackett - De Selby
Maicosuel - MarceloFalcon
Mateo Kovačić - BlackAdder
Lewis Holtby, Alexander Merkel, Rodney Strasser - Zoo (Newbies)
Banega, Szczęsny, Morrison, Tom Thorpe, Thiago Alacantra - Aint Gota Kalou
Javier Cortés, Nicolás Colazo, Mauro Formica - MUFC07
Erick 'Cubo' Torres - Scrumpet
Scott Sinclair - Minkaro
Erik Lamela, Yassine El Ghanassy, Juan Manuel Iturbe, Julian Draxler, İlkay Gündoğan, Adryan, Bryan Carrasco, Alex Sandro, Antoine Griezmann - letranger0 (Newbies)
Rogelio Funes Mori - Big Ben Foster (Newbies)
Javier Munoz Jiménez - coldzebra
Tunnicliffe, Suso, Tom Thorpe - KM
Juan Agudelo - Sir Matt
Steven Caulker, Sandro - GlastonSpur

Flops/Won't reach potential

Jordan Henderson, Tom Huddlestone, Ravel Morrison, Joshua King, Mario Balotelli, Jack Rodwell - Irish Legend
Raheem Sterling, Gael Kakuta - phelans shorts
Phil Jones - Mick1991
Gabriel Obertan, Jack Rodwell, Mario Balotelli, Nathan Delfouneso, Alex Oxade-Chamberlain - Solius

 

[phelans shorts]

Jack Wilshere
Ganso
Davide De Gea
Connor Wickham

 

[alastair]

Fair play for compiling that Solius, must have taken a while.

Ravel Morrison's a risky shout - I'd say there's a 50/50 chance he'll be in jail in a few years. Top talent though.

 

[x42bn6]

Hedging your bets, Solius?

 

[Solius]

Wilshere is already there phelan.

Alastair, didn't actually take that long, most off the top of my head. Hopefully the likes of Boss and others can help me with the Spanish youngsters and I don't watch much La Liga.

 

[Raees]

What would also be interesting, is if we all stick our necks on the line and predict which players out of those you listed are actually going to make it.

Lucas Da Silva, recent player everyones been in a fuss about. Smalling & David Luiz..

 

[esmufc07]

Oliver Norwood.

(That one's for you Scholesy)

 

[alastair]

Ryo Miyaichi is another shout, along with Wellington Silva. Two overseas Arsenal stars of the future.

Just from Arsenal, I'd tag on Benik Afobe and Frimpong to that list.

 

[phelans shorts]

Tom Cairney

 

[Raees]

Marko Marin

 

[phelans shorts]

Thomas Müller
Thiago Alcantara
Jon Toral Harper

 

[De Selby]

I really like Tyler Blackett from our U-18s.

 

[johnmufc]

Neuer is 25 years old.

 

[Solius]

Thought it was still young for a keeper though.

 

[Scoreboard Red]

Romelu Lukaku
Eden Hazard
Mario Balotelli
Rafael Da Silva
Fabio Da Silva
Danny Welbeck
Tom Cleverly
Paul Pogba
Ravel Morrison
Josh McEachran
Jack Wilshere
Sergio Canales
Jordan Henderson
Christian Eriksen
Barry Bannan
Stefan Jovetic
Khouma Babacar
Federico Macheda
iker Munian
Tomas Necid
Javier Pastore
Stephen Defour
Neymar
Xherdan Shaqiri
Jack Rodwell
Martin Kelly
Nathan Delfouneso
Alexis Sanchez
Axel Witsel
Mario Gotze
Ever Banega
Aaron Ramsey
Marek Hamsik
Philippe Coutinho
Neven Subotic
Adel Taraabt
Ganso
David De Gea
Connor Wickham
Manuel Neuer
Oliver Norwood
Lucas Da Silva
Chris Smalling
Jonny Evans
David Luiz
Benik Afobe
Ryo Miyaichi
Wellington Silva
Emmanuel Frimpong
Marko Marin
Tom Cairney
Thomas Müller
Thiago Alcantara
Jon Toral Harper

 

[Solius]

That's it Johnno, make the thread longer than it needs to be.

 

[phelans shorts]

Jamie Ness
John Fleck
Mamadou Sakho

 

[peterstorey]

Ryo Miyaichi is another shout, along with Wellington Silva. Two overseas Arsenal stars of the future.

Just from Arsenal, I'd tag on Benik Afobe and Frimpong to that list.

Szczesny, Chuks Aneke and Ignasi Miquel are nailed on IMO. Afobe, Watt, Frimpong and JET possibles. Should be U21s?

 

[Raees]

Sahin
Ninis
Santon
Kakuta
Suso
Oxlade-chamberlain
D. Costa
Sakho
Phil Jones
Adil Nabi
Albrighton
J.Bennett
Y. Mulumbu

Btw, am just giving names, helping the thread along.. not saying these will make it!

 

[Chrisjn]

Giulliano

 

[alastair]

Chuks Aneke and Ignasi Miquel are nailed on IMO. Afobe, Watt, Frimpong and JET possibles. Should be U21s?

Do you rate Miquel that highly? I've always thought he lacks a bit of pace and just general awareness for his position. I'd stick him in the 'possibles' myself.

Agreed on Aneke though, I should have mentioned him.

 

[MTF]

Can I say Thiago Silva?

I know he's already a starter for Milan, but I think he might go on to be one of the best defenders on the planet, with the same sort of recognition Vidic has today.

And I'll say Maicosuel from Botafogo as well. He's been to Hoffenheim and didn't cut it, but I think he's at least as good as Bebe.

And Obertan.

 

[johnmufc]

Sandro of Tottenham. He has recently turned 22. The best Brazilian midfielder in England.

 

[Scoreboard Red]

In entire honesty, I don't know a lot of kids that are being touted as future stars; there are several at United who look the biz such as Pogba, Will Keane, Josh King, Ravel Morisson etc and then there's Oxlade-Chamberlain (is he another Giles Barnes?), Neymar, Jack Wilshere of course.

 

[phelans shorts]

Thiago Silva is 27...

 

[MacMUFC]

Raheem Sterling.

EDIT - Also, although he might not become TBPITW, I think he's potentially Top 4 material. Moussa Dembele.

 

[RonaldoVII]

Paulo Henrique
Abel Hernandez
Danny Wilson
Stevan Jovetic
Douglas Costa
Lucas Moura
Thomas Müller
Javier Hernandez

 

[alastair]

Thiago Silva is 27...

He's 26 for a few months yet I think but the point still stands

 

[Solius]

Updated with all suggestions so far.

 

[phelans shorts]

Paulo Henrique is the fm name of Ganso.

And Müller is on there twice.

 

[Solius]

All these players and their bloody weird names...

 

[peterstorey]

Do you rate Miquel that highly? I've always thought he lacks a bit of pace and just general awareness for his position. I'd stick him in the 'possibles' myself.

Agreed on Aneke though, I should have mentioned him.

I think Miquel is like Pique + pace. JET is enormously talented but can he find a way to deliver it positionally and attitude-wise?

 

[Solius]

Is Nicklas Bendtner worth putting on there? He reckons he can be one of the worlds best anyway.

 

[x42bn6]

Andrea Ranocchia
Leonardo Bonucci

They won't be the next Maldini and Nesta, but they will be solid defenders for their country in the future.

 

[Raees]

Is Nicklas Bendtner worth putting on there? He reckons he can be one of the worlds best anyway.

Worth putting on a separate list all to himself, he's a tad special. Updated my post btw.

 

[Black Adder]

I'll go with one of Croatians top prospects, Mateo Kovačić.

 

[MTF]

He's 26 for a few months yet I think but the point still stands

I know, but I don't think he's peaked yet, I think the in the next few years he could really shine, if Milan improve or he moves on to one of Europe's very top clubs.

And the poor guy, when he was a talented youngster at 20 he got tuberculosis and didn't play for 2 years. Maybe his body can last a bit longer than usual because he spent those 2 years not getting banged up.

 

[KingEric7]

Aleksandr Radic
Ataku Morimitsu
Jean Rigier
Pablo Souza Arao (Souza)
Josh King
Fabrizio Marini
Danny Stevens

Would risk my reputation on this lot.

 

[Minkaro]

Could we get a cut-off age?

Graham Dorrans (23)

Does he deserve stuck neck status? I'm not sure, myself.

 

[Zebs]

James McCarthy