Swap deal with Xhaka would be best for all parties concerned.
Replacing Pogba...
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Honest question.. But why would De Ligt want to come here compared to the many clubs interested in him?
And Xhaka runs and runs so the caf would love him!
You must have not watched Xhaka. One of the least hard working players in that Arsenal team, and also braindead.
Torreira and Ramsey are the hard working midfielders for Arsenal.
This thread is mental. State of the sources saying he’s leaving. Seriously premature.
Sarcasm within a sarcastic post (Sarception?), it's quite difficult to tell because some people actually tihnk Xhaka is a good player
The guy who wants us to have Xhaka is an Arsenal fan.Sarcasm within a sarcastic post (Sarception?), it's quite difficult to tell because some people actually tihnk Xhaka is a good player
I doubt he thinks he is a good player either. He really isn't.
DT thinks Xhaka is better than Pogba
If he wants out then by all means let him go. If not though then we'd be fools to sell him considering the amount of other shite in the squad we need to offload and replace.
What disruptive behavior?
It's all tabloid bo**icks! That much should be clear for all to see. It's a tabloid narrative no more and no less and our fan base is stupid enough to believe it all for the most part sadly. The only manager still to this day who has had problems with him is a manager who has problems with players at all of his clubs in recent times. Jose has been sacked three times running now for the same issue, falling on the wrong side of the board and its players.
Ole spoke yesterday of how hard he works, his attitude being great, being a leader to younger players and helping them. Weathers its McClair (working with him at youth level), Ferguson wanting to keep him and saying he liked him. Conte nor Allegri reported "disruptive behavior". Never heard Deschamps questioning his attitude or behavior either... Leaving just Jose to have issues with him.
Pogba doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't socialize much at all, keeps a low profile in that sense. He literally as a social media profile and enjoys music / fashion and incorporates that into his social media.
As for Keane, he showed far more disruptive behavior than Pogba ever has. From the Haland incident, stamping on Southgate, slating the supporters, the MUTV incident where he slated some of the modern games greatest players like RVN & Van Der Saar. Then we had the drunken punch ups and night's in jail, moaning about training facilities at United long before he did at Saipan famously! The mans a flat track scum bag, rotten to his core and absolutely cancerous to a stable locker room.
He may have been a great captain in his day and there's no doubting that, but he can't talk about bad attitudes and disruptive behavior! Pot, kettle and black come to mind.
Now tell me who was the bigger ar*hole to deal with, Keane or Pogba?
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A lot of people mentioning Eriksen.
How much would he cost?
Only 27, one of the most productive prem players and more of a ‘team’ player than Pogba.
Always gives his all.
Pogba wants out, it’s obvious.
How much would he cost?
Only 27, one of the most productive prem players and more of a ‘team’ player than Pogba.
Always gives his all.
Pogba wants out, it’s obvious.
The papers are talking about £60 million, which is a no-brainer. But why would he leave Spurs to go to United ? He will leave Spurs for Real or Barcelona
He would go to United because he would triple his wage.
Honest question... why would anyone want to come here at this moment?
Anyways, he would be guaranteed to be in the starting XI, have bigger wages and bigger transfer money for Ajax.
If Pogba is to move, its probably because of money, but also possibly because he has perhaps made up his mind that his team mates are not up to playing with him! Albeit this is arrogant of Paul in many respects... he is nevertheless right. Pogba has, even in our poor spell of form of late, still created one or two chances in every game for others which they have spurned. Also without a more mobile version of Matic, or a more consistent Herrera type DM players beside him, he is obliged to use his energy in defensive duties, for which he is not even remotely qualified, it's just not his game!
I don't know how much we could get for him, but I don't want any Madrid or Barcelona 'cast offs', who are only coming to United (as Di Maria did) as a stop gap, or for a contract to give them a final career 'pay day', in exchange.
I don't know how much we could get for him, but I don't want any Madrid or Barcelona 'cast offs', who are only coming to United (as Di Maria did) as a stop gap, or for a contract to give them a final career 'pay day', in exchange.
Well, you'd use the money to sign Declan Rice, and in a dream world Eriksen, though I see no reason why he would take what is currently a step down.
such a balanced post with points i echo.What disruptive behavior?
The only manager still to this day who has had problems with him is a manager who has problems with players at all of his clubs in recent times. Jose has been sacked three times running now for the same issue, falling on the wrong side of the board and its players.
Ole spoke yesterday of how hard he works, his attitude being great, being a leader to younger players and helping them. Weathers its McClair (working with him at youth level), Ferguson wanting to keep him and saying he liked him. Conte nor Allegri reported "disruptive behavior". Never heard Deschamps questioning his attitude or behavior either... Leaving just Jose to have issues with him.
Pogba doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't socialize much at all, keeps a low profile in that sense. He literally as a social media profile and enjoys music / fashion and incorporates that into his social media.
As for Keane, he showed far more disruptive behavior than Pogba ever has. From the Haland incident, stamping on Southgate, slating the supporters, the MUTV incident where he slated some of the modern games greatest players like RVN & Van Der Saar. Then we had the drunken punch ups and night's in jail, moaning about training facilities at United long before he did at Saipan famously! The mans a flat track scum bag, rotten to his core and absolutely cancerous to a stable locker room.
He may have been a great captain in his day and there's no doubting that, but he can't talk about bad attitudes and disruptive behavior! Pot, kettle and black come to mind.
Now tell me who was the bigger ar*hole to deal with, Keane or Pogba?
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pogba leaving is the tabloids wet dream. do people honestly think that if he left we’d see/hear from the media how good a move it is; or would that portray it as us further losing power.
pogba is a good player; we won’t ‘replace’ him with a better one - if we were to get the money & buy 2/3 players that fit better than ok but this ‘pogba must go’ is nonsense.
if he leaves & we still have to watch matic & co. play for us we’ll be worse for it.
The obvious choice would be Eriksen, but Tottenham are not going to sell one of their best player to a premier league team.
So Fernandes + Rice/Neves could be a good replacement.
So Fernandes + Rice/Neves could be a good replacement.
Why would Eriksen want to play for us when we're selling players like Pogba? He's at a better club unless we're adding to him.
The only answer is money. And with Sanchez on such a high wage, we'd have to offer Eriksen the same
If he has defensive duties then he spectacularly fails in carrying out those duties.
The truth hurts for many, rather live in a fantasy land and ignore the obvious.
The lad literally said a singular sentence against Jose around September this season I think it was and then when pressed a 2nd time said he couldn't talk. Keane though gives it loads about eating prawn sandwiches, lays into players on MUTV from top to bottom and then himself acts unprofessional on and off the pitch! Bloody hypocrite!
Pogba has played for some of the best managers in the game in recent times from Allegri, Conte, Ferguson, Deschamps and Jose... only Jose has had issues with him. Now ZZ is chomping at the bit to sign him it seems.
Yes if Pogba goes we may well have the funds to get 2, maybe 3 new players but there's no guarantees they will step up. Regular names I see from our supporters are Neves (DMF), Eriksen (unlikely as in reality its step down for him now), Rice (decent season and by no means certain to step up) and Maddison (Whom I do like, but not sure he fits what Ole wants).
The problem is Pogba is most likely will leave at the end of next season this season so we need to think ahead buy now and cash in on at least 150 mil to 200 on him next season. as it stands we need an additional 2 midfield players 1 similar mould to Verratti and one to replace Ander herrera. i will take Neves ,Ndombele and the player i I really want is Bruno Fernandes of sporting. also at some point we need a midfielder capable of destroying as well as not being anywhere near as slow as Matic i like Wilfried Ndidi . i would be happy with all of those players as replacements no one is a straight replacement for Paul of course.
He is a great player but as people have pointed out he is a player who excels best when two or three other better more dynamic attacking players are around him .
He is a great player but as people have pointed out he is a player who excels best when two or three other better more dynamic attacking players are around him .
Well, no... I'm merely replying to all the snide sneering you and a few other posters were doing over the idea of working hard. I see the point you're trying to make in regards to Phil Neville - and whilst I agree with you to an extent - it's ultimately not what we're talking about. There should absolutely 100% be an expectation that you have to work to earn your spot. No matter how talented you are, you should not be allowed to act above the rest of the team... and subsequently above the rest of the entire fanbase.
Pogba has no respect for anything or anyone United. It's become abundantly clear. He will most likely leave next season because of how toxic an environment he creates at the club. And from most accounts, it really does seem to be him creating it. Even OGS came in wanting him to be the centrepiece of the squad and still after 2 months Pogba has stopped giving it his all. He's allowed more luxuries than any other player whilst shackled with the least amount of responsibility.
I like Pogs enough personally, but I am aware that his ego is simply too big for the team. United, especially under Sir Alex, has always acted ruthlessly but appropriately when dealing with player egos. I don't believe anyone is saying that we should replace Pogba with a slew of younger Neville brothers... But the collective narrative seems to be that the supporters want a superstar who actually gives a shite to be the one to replace Pogba. Someone that will actually try game to game.
I guess I just find it odd that you wouldn't want that?
This is what ole thinks of pogba
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sou...aw3s0IORwHEB_OVVerL2Vso2&ust=1556518577783951
Wrong . Mourinino was not the only manager to have issues with him .Sir Alex got rid and when Sir Alex got rid or did not do everything to stop someone leaving then there was a problem , even then .What disruptive behavior?
The only manager still to this day who has had problems with him is a manager who has problems with players at all of his clubs in recent times. Jose has been sacked three times running now for the same issue, falling on the wrong side of the board and its players.
Ole spoke yesterday of how hard he works, his attitude being great, being a leader to younger players and helping them. Weathers its McClair (working with him at youth level), Ferguson wanting to keep him and saying he liked him. Conte nor Allegri reported "disruptive behavior". Never heard Deschamps questioning his attitude or behavior either... Leaving just Jose to have issues with him.
Pogba doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, doesn't socialize much at all, keeps a low profile in that sense. He literally as a social media profile and enjoys music / fashion and incorporates that into his social media.
As for Keane, he showed far more disruptive behavior than Pogba ever has. From the Haland incident, stamping on Southgate, slating the supporters, the MUTV incident where he slated some of the modern games greatest players like RVN & Van Der Saar. Then we had the drunken punch ups and night's in jail, moaning about training facilities at United long before he did at Saipan famously! The mans a flat track scum bag, rotten to his core and absolutely cancerous to a stable locker room.
He may have been a great captain in his day and there's no doubting that, but he can't talk about bad attitudes and disruptive behavior! Pot, kettle and black come to mind.
Now tell me who was the bigger ar*hole to deal with, Keane or Pogba?
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Keane gave 110% every game as did Robson as did Scoles , most games Pogba is closer to 10% , there is no comparison
The snowflake generation seem to think Pogba is been picked on , they need to actually watch a few games and not just the youtube highlights
Feck me we still have this idiotic and nonfactual nonsense about Ferguson "getting rid" of him. Read Ferguson's book! It's the very least you can do as a supposed United supporter!
Ferguson clearly states in his last autobiography that he wanted to keep Pogba! Pogba was offered the largest contract in the clubs history for a youth player at the time to keep him there...But...the caveat was that Ferguson made no promises to Pogba that he would play in the first team still. Pogba knew his worth and wanted to play football so he took Juve up on their offer and guess what, he was feckin right to. He went on to win 4 leagues and 2 Italian cups in 4 seasons.
Ferguson was flogging dead horses in Giggs (39) and Scholes (37) in 2012 when Pogba left.
Ferguson blames Pogba's agent essentially which is BS in reality, he misjudged Pogba as a talent and lost a very good player in him and the club had to repair that with a 90m plaster 4 years later cause of Ferguson's personal disliking of Raiola.
Just to prove Ferguson wanted to keep him, here you go...quotes from Ferguson's book about the situation.
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He talks about "snowflake generation"Feck me we still have this idiotic and nonfactual nonsense about Ferguson "getting rid" of him. Read Ferguson's book! It's the very least you can do as a supposed United supporter!
Ferguson clearly states in his last autobiography that he wanted to keep Pogba! Pogba was offered the largest contract in the clubs history for a youth player at the time to keep him there...But...the caveat was that Ferguson made no promises to Pogba that he would play in the first team still. Pogba knew his worth and wanted to play football so he took Juve up on their offer and guess what, he was feckin right to. He went on to win 4 leagues and 2 Italian cups in 4 seasons.
Ferguson was flogging dead horses in Giggs (39) and Scholes (37) in 2012 when Pogba left.
Ferguson blames Pogba's agent essentially which is BS in reality, he misjudged Pogba as a talent and lost a very good player in him and the club had to repair that with a 90m players 4 years later cause of Ferguson's personal disliking of Raiola.
Just to prove Ferguson wanted to keep him, here you go...quotes from Ferguson's book about the situation.
?We need to make sure we sign a replacement before we even consider entertaining bids for him. You know the moment he leaves, whoever we are looking to sign's value will now conveniently have risen to the same as we sell him for.
Once again though, I have little faith in the club hierarchy's ability not to mess this up. We'll sell him for £150m on the first day of the transfer window, then spend all summer trying to replace him, then sign Fellaini for £150m on deadline day.
Once again though, I have little faith in the club hierarchy's ability not to mess this up. We'll sell him for £150m on the first day of the transfer window, then spend all summer trying to replace him, then sign Fellaini for £150m on deadline day.