One will do.
Replacing Rooney
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One will do.
This place would go mental if we signed another played from Wigan
Think he's a great player though myself, when he puts his mind to it.
edit: On cue, Blair proves my point
I'd take N'Zogbia no problem. If we're going to spend really big on the player it should be in the centre, a left winger like him for presumably a similar price to what we paid for Valencia would not be a bad purchase at all. The fact that he's pretty versatile and could provide cover for Evra is hardly bad either.
I've been guilty of this and Sir Alex touched on it yesterday. We don't SEE the potential in years to come, we just see now and we have to trust his judgement over our own because he's exposed to them daily. We all need to look at the bigger picture sometimes not just the immediate. They won't all make it but right now we have to trust the boss..
He's good and finally has a record in a decent competition. There would certainly be worse replacements for Rooney, however signing one cnut to replace another may not be the best policy.
This place would go mental if we signed another played from Wigan
Think he's a great player though myself, when he puts his mind to it.
edit: On cue, Blair proves my point
He is a good player has plenty of Premier League experience and would offer value should his fee not exceed £12mil IMO. He can dribble, cross and has pace, what more could you ask from a winger?
You trippin', boyfriend...
I didn't realise he was also Ajax club captain....23 years old and a foreign captain, it shows his mettle and responsibility load rather than just be a goal getter.
It was the same thing over here with Jermaine Defoe not too long ago. There were plenty who saw him as a selfish player lucky to be part of a not so decent Spurs team back then. Ask how many still feel the same way now?
Ben Arfa is a good player, he has that wow factor and self styled arrogance that only Ronaldo can better. He is definitely one player who could prosper under tutelage of the great man.
For Nz'ogbia read Valencia MK II, a proven Premiership pro who offers value.
Can play on both sides and has the ability to win games out of nothing.
I guess it'll also be news to you that Huntelaar was captain.
If we signed N'Zogbia Rooney would chuckle and say 'I fecking told you we had no ambition.'
Yes but Huntelaar needs the right environment, he plays well for Holland when he plays for them, he didn't have the right service at Real and Milan employ Pato as their main striker rather than have a number ten play off the big toothed twat as Huntelaar would prefer.
His game is very limited, just like Ruud's was, but he was always supported with excellent delivery players....
When will people like you realize that not every player we sign is going to be amazing. We're not Real Madrid or Shitty, we don't spend 30m on players in every position we need them.
Valencia was £16m very well spent was he not? Just because he's not one of the worlds best wingers does not mean he's not a very valuable asset to our club. N'Zogbia would be no different, he's a proven player in a position we'll be short of players in come the Summer.
What has he done to become a cnut?
Ruud's game was never half as limited as Huntelaar's. Even when he lost his mobility in his final stage at United, his buildup play was still twice as good as Huntelaar's. He was fantastic at receiving the ball with his back to goal during buildup play and then finding a winger - Something we now rely on Berbatov to do.
I presume he's referring to his world cup handball, which just about any player would've done in that position.
Dont be silly. If you've seen him you'd know he's always diving, simulating and cheating in some way or some form.
I think I know we're not going to sign anyone 'amazing'. I can't even remember the last time we signed one of those to be honest.
Valencia is far better than N'Zogbia.
Hang on, asking you a question is silly now?
I hadn't realised we weren't allowed to ask you to back up your opinions. I haven't even suggested I didn't agree. I genuinely wanted to know.
Given N'Zogbia's money related refusal to sign for Birmingham at the last minute I doubt Fergie would bother looking at him.
I'm guessing the handball against Ghana.
I'm guessing the handball against Ghana.
People said the same about Valencia, he's proved to be class so far.
N'Zogbia can play on both sides. He's left footed and has spent most of his career on the left but he is now playing largely on the right for Wigan. he's hugely productive.
You say that now but not many would've had that opinion before his debut season with us. He was never really THAT good for Wigan. Players generally tend to get better once they come to Utd and I see no reason N'Zogbia wouldn't either. 'Far better' is a load of bullshit to be honest. N'Zogbia at £12m would be a very good purchase for the club.
Do you have £80mil? For that Sir, you are asking for Cristiano Ronaldo
Yeah like his opinion matters. There is nothing wrong with proven value signings. Incidentally what do you think of Ji Sung Park?
You can ask, but its being silly if you've watched him.
You couldn't miss the fact he's always diving to the floor and waving imaginary yellow cards even if you wanted to.
It doesnt change that he's scoring goals in the champions league and got a few at the world cup, it doesnt change that he's quite clever when running at players, he can be fairly strong and is a good player. But he's also clearly a cnut.
If we were to sign him I'd give him the benefit of the doubt, a clean slate until such a time as he was being a cnut for us. But while there's definitely more likelyhood that we'd be interested in him now, I'd hope we'd go for one of the better options.
That's more of a current trend really, left footed players on the right cutting in...Mourinho employed it well with both Robben and Duff, two very left-footed wingers switching wings both often cutting in, now most famously applied by Lionel Messi, the same could be said about Henry who quite often cut in from the left after receiving the ball and Tevez seems to like drifting left too a lot...
Indeed. The amazing thing with Nani is that he can cut inside whether hes playing on the right or on the left, as he can hit them with his left foot superbly too as we saw last night.
Suarez is a cnut but that's not going to be a factor should Fergie be faced with the decision with whether to sign him or not. What matters is what he actually brings to the table footballing wise.
Ruud was cnut, Keano, Ronaldo, Rooney and now Nani. Yet they have all been our heroes at some stage.
There is a reason why players demand huge wages when they go to clubs they perceive as not being an improvement on their former clubs. Nz'ogbia kicked up a fuss at Newcastle because he wanted to join a better club, in came Wigan not a significant improvement but atleast they didn't get relegated. Birmingham were never going to provide him with the next progressive step/challenge in his career.
Not necessarily. Nani ticks those boxes, as does Malouda, Balotelli, Adam Johnson will get there. I could compile a decent list actually.
I have been a fan of Park over the years, but as a winger nowadays he's pretty useless to be fair.
ok ill throw my ring into the muppet hat
Benzema, Schneider and Muller please
Benzema, Schneider and Muller please
Rooney can feck himself and his opinions
All of whom would cost 30m at least. Johnson does not tick those boxes yet, or Balotelli. I doubt you could name anyone who ticks those boxes who'd be less than 20m.
Put it this way, we need a creative midfielder more than a left winger. We're very unlikely to spend 30m on a player in both positions, so what would be wrong with spending 12m on N'Zogbia and leaving more money for a top class creative mid?
Inter and Bayern wouldn't sell their prized assets for anything less than insane offers. Far more than we could muster.
Benzema is a possibility mind, but only if R. Madrid want Rooney.
I can't argue with that.
The top players in the world and those with the greatest potential don't come cheap, just ask Chelsea, Barca, Real & City.
I don't really think we need a winger anyway. Nani and Valencia are very good, and Obertan and Bebe have the potential to be just as good according to SAF. Giggs' and Park's days in that position are all but done.
I think our central midfield needs a complete overhaul, in both the defensive and attacking side. Fletcher and Scholes are the only two worth their place. But there are a lot of players out there who could bring our midfiled back amoungst the best.
Go on, it will interesting to see who on that list will be available for a decent sum.
That's true but if you assess his contribution over the years, I would say he has been of very good value to the club all things considered.
Good, get in on the act. It is not muppetry to speculate on possible signings or sharing a wish list.
Tim Cahil as a cheap alternative, I have always thought he was a decent player.
Mikel Arteta would also most likely represent value for money if we're looking to add to our midfield. Great passer of the ball, and a dead ball specialist.
It depends what you class as a decent sum mate. Times are changing, like I said in the post above, top players cost top money. If you scrimp around buying £12m players you'll find it hard.
Yeah that's fair. He's been a good servant over the years, done a job when called upon.
But in recent times he's looked way out of his depth.
Is this a thread to release our inner muppet?
Alright then post season Scholes/Giggs/Neville retire and Rooney leaves, buy
Bale, Defour, Dzeko.
Bring back Welbeck from loan and there's some more wing/striker cover as well.
Alright then post season Scholes/Giggs/Neville retire and Rooney leaves, buy
Bale, Defour, Dzeko.
Bring back Welbeck from loan and there's some more wing/striker cover as well.
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