Richard Arnold secretly filmed whilst speaking to supporters

[Mr Pigeon]

Real scummy act to secretly record him and post it online. That sort of thing is a complete deterrent for anyone interacting with fans - and then, when they don't, there'll be complaints about how detached we are from them nowadays.

Bang on, was going to say this as well. I hate how PR heavy the club are but we get an exec being open and frank with supporters in a casual conversation and it's paid back by secretly filming him and potentially getting him in a lot of shit?

As far as I can tell a bunch of "supporters" were going to protest outside the house of someone who is just in the front door, he comes to them and has an honest chat with them, and then they film and release the footage because what he says can be seen as negative towards the Glazers? Bunch of high horse cnuts to be honest.

 

[BluesJr]

You don't see the difference between talking about what he said to other people, and filming the entire thing and putting it online?

No, because if you post what he said, which he knew would happen, with a picture to prove he was actually there for example. It’s the same thing.

I guarantee he’s not that bothered, it’s actually done him and the club a favour anyway because he’s come across well.

 

[Red00012]

This could feck things up. Ffs fans are the worst man.

I’m disgusted by the fact it was recorded tbh.

 

[Cassidy]

Huh? What are you on about?

He's barely been here for few months, how exactly is he incompetent? Unless you're referring to the fact he talked so candidly to fans in a pub

Yes and talked about on going active negotiations and budget for the summer with numbers. Thats a sackable offence at any major multi national firm

 

[Edwards6]

Fair play to him for having the balls to go and speak to them
Shame on them for secretly filming him, will probably put him off talking to the fans again

 

[groovyalbert]

I hope he doesn't get fired for this

Genuinely

 

[UncleBob]

No, because if you post what he said, which he knew would happen, with a picture to prove he was actually there for example. It’s the same thing.

I guarantee he’s not that bothered, it’s actually done him and the club a favour anyway because he’s come across well.

How on earth is it the same thing re-telling what he said, with your own words, and filming him and putting it online

Jesus

 

[GoldanoGraham]

What are people going on about - he didn’t confirm anything - he just said things hypothetically - he is talking at the level of the audience in front of him.

Comes across well, wants things to be better, he is not involved with player signings and backs the management that is.

Big non story - he has given away nothing - as if he was going to say we only have £85m to spend this window - ffs - some people.

Already much prefer him to arrogant Woody.

 

[NotoriousISSY]

My inner cynic says he knows this is going to be shared one way or another, especially because the fanbase is already growing frustrated watching the two best teams in the country get better.

Okay the more clips I see, and the way these idiots are celebrating on Twitter I don't think Arnold knows, and is possibly a bit naive to the real world realities.

Comes across well, but some of this absolutely should not go out into the public forum.

I like transparency, but they have definitely made every deal we pursue harder and more expensive now.

 

[Nero]

Any quotes that weren't recorded shouldn't be given much attention. Just taking some random guy's word for it.

 

[kouroux]

Wtf is that supposed to achieve ?

 

[BluesJr]

How on earth is it the same thing re-telling what he said, with your own words, and filming him and putting it online

Jesus

Because the content of the words is exactly the same. It really isn’t a big deal.

 

[Withnail]

It won’t help. That’s for sure.

For all he seems to come across as an okay guy, this video worries me. A serious CEO wouldn’t be trading commercially sensitive information in an environment like this. It makes me worry he’s got the same personality flaw that Woodward had, the need to grandstand even when it has the potential to harm you.

It is a bit weird. He says the money's there if the manager wants a player but that's just not true. As we've seen every window there is a limit to the budget and we won't be held over a barrel. I wonder if he went on to say something like that after the video cuts. It was quite ill-advised to say what he said.

 

[devilish]

He didn't actually say anything that the moaning gang wants to hear.

Actually he said word by word what we used to say while the top reds were busy singing ole at the wheel

 

[Mickeza]

I think people need to be careful believing all these quotes on Twitter. You could make up that he said anything. Outside of the video coverage I’d take the rest with a pinch of salt.

 

[devilish]

protest in the stadium or around the training ground all day long. Going to his house is unacceptable. These people should be booted forever. Filming him is the cherry on top.

I agree

 

[Cassidy]

He didn't actually say anything that the moaning gang wants to hear.

Disagree

 

[hobbers]

Because the content of the words is exactly the same. It really isn’t a big deal.

Of course it isn’t the same. Paraphrasing someone and filming a recording of something is a fecking world of difference. There’s this thing called deniability.

 

[UncleBob]

Because the content of the words is exactly the same. It really isn’t a big deal.

bizarre take

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Any quotes that weren't recorded shouldn't be given much attention. Just taking some random guy's word for it.

This

 

[JPRouve]

I don't think any club was thinking that United could afford their asking prices.

Disagree

The people sharing the videos are moaning about the content.

 

[Withnail]

I think people need to be careful believing all these quotes on Twitter. You could make up that he said anything. Outside of the video coverage I’d take the rest with a pinch of salt.

Agreed. They'll only tell us about the parts they want us to hear and it could well be heavily spun in whichever direction suits them.

 

[King Eric 7]

Don't think that this affects the De Jong deal at all. I don't suppose it makes any difference whether we have 150m or 250m - this isn't why we're driving the price down. Barca want to sell and need to sell and it would seem there are no other bidders for the player as far as we can tell.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

I’m sure some of them do. It’s like this place where you had posters delighted we’d lost a 200m training kit deal and then were moaning about no January signings 6 months later. Anyway, this is the account from one of them arranging the protest outside his house.

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I'm calling it; this cnut (the supporter) doesn't give a shit about the club as much as he does about feeling like he's in charge. Billy Big Bollocks marching down to someone's house because that someone is just a "Glazer man", feeling validated to protest outside said house, judging the guy when he comes to you because you and your friends "see through" his lies and PR "bullshit" because your job as apprentice shithead at TradeTwats is just a cover for your real job as an FBI behavioural analyst. All the while being a snidey and smug cnut in the videos you secretly record because in your head you have the right to be a bellend in any situation just as long as you're aggressive enough.

 

[MadDogg]

Any quotes that weren't recorded shouldn't be given much attention. Just taking some random guy's word for it.

Yep. There's a reason the more significant claims just so happen to be the ones that haven't been shown in any recording. Some of them are almost certainly either deliberate bullshit or the guy putting his own preconceived spin onto what Arnold actually said.

 

[Cassidy]

I don't think any club was thinking that United could afford their asking prices.


The people sharing the videos are moaning about the content.

They have an agenda clearly

 

[fps]

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16 hours a day waiting on hold on Frenkie De Jong's phone number? The lad's demented.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

I feel like the leak will do the CEO more good than harm in the eyes of some supporters

Maybe I’m getting played but he does seem to care and genuinely want the club to do well and is obviously good to take the time to speak to concerned supporters

 

[alexthelion]

Yes and talked about on going active negotiations and budget for the summer with numbers. Thats a sackable offence at any major multi national firm

Not that I've heard, he didn't.

He was just going through the damage the so-called supporters were doing with their targeting of sponsors and saying that, without them (and others) things couldn't be improved and players bought.

 

[JPRouve]

They have an agenda clearly

Which is why none of what said will change a thing. If we are honest, what he said is what any sensible person would think, you don't need Arnold to come to the same conclusions.

 

[Red the Bear]

I’m sure some of them do. It’s like this place where you had posters delighted we’d lost a 200m training kit deal and then were moaning about no January signings 6 months later. Anyway, this is the account from one of them arranging the protest outside his house.

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I mean I guess that's the type of guy you want if you want to pull a revolution or disruption or whatever but he come of as so mean from those tweets, what the feck was Arnold supposed to do, he came sat down and actually tried to give off some candid answers, he didn't have to do that at all and this is what he gets in return.

 

[Sparky Rhiwabon]

I feel like the leak will do the CEO more good than harm in the eyes of some supporters

Maybe I’m getting played but he does seem to care and genuinely want the club to do well and is obviously good to take the time to speak to concerned supporters

Yeah this is the best bit of PR he’s ever had. He’s certainly gone up in my estimation

 

[choccy77]

There's a lot being quoted from the fans I've noticed, that is not on the video clips.

So I'd take a lot of that with a pinch of salt tbh.

 

[Man of Leisure]

Fair play to Arnold. Whoever recorded this is a fecking twat

 

[Longshanks]

Came across ok really. He didn't confirm or deny the transfer budget, basically said that the money the manager and DOF want is there and available the 200m figure seemed to come from one of the fans.

 

[big rons sovereign]

What a twat that guy is. And reading some of the responses makes me flipping despair.

Yep, a pack of prize twats.

 

[Cassidy]

Which is why none of what said will change a thing. If we are honest, what he said is what any sensible person would think, you don't need Arnold to come to the same conclusions.

Agree

 

[roseguy64]

So he has exposed Uniteds budget for the summer, something Im sure the club wants to keep a secret from agents and other clubs during the window

I doubt he did. Probably just whoever was the source misunderstood what he was saying. If he was coming across as a politician to some of the fans I doubt he'd give an actual number.

 

[Cassidy]

Came across ok really. He didn't confirm or deny the transfer budget, basically said that the money the manager and DOF want is there and available the 200m figure seemed to come from one of the fans.

Fair dos then he comes out of that well. Prats attempting to to post what he didnt say online. Idiots

 

[Cassidy]

I doubt he did. Probably just whoever was the source misunderstood what he was saying. If he was coming across as a politician to some of the fans I doubt he'd give an actual number.

Good