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Will even be worse next year.
That is the best way to look at it and that way we can enjoy him. The problem is some fans still have huge expectations of him as they believe he is still the 40 goal a year beast that he used to be and it’s us that’s holding him back.You'd think people would have learnt by now not to write him off. Yes he was terrible last night, and yes he's been on a poor run. But he'll pop up at some point in the season when we really need him, you can almost guarantee it.
haha, he is absolutely finished. Yes, he will score some more goals, but he will still be shit and offer nothing to our football. The sooner Rangnick will bench him, the better.You'd think people would have learnt by now not to write him off. Yes he was terrible last night, and yes he's been on a poor run. But he'll pop up at some point in the season when we really need him, you can almost guarantee it.
He's our main striker, he'll score again and have some moments, but lets not keep pretending the guy is anywhere near his prime.You'd think people would have learnt by now not to write him off. Yes he was terrible last night, and yes he's been on a poor run. But he'll pop up at some point in the season when we really need him, you can almost guarantee it.
He's starting every game up front for us and taking penalties so of course he'll score an important goal or two. The problem is loads of other forwards could too and for £600k a week we could almost have anyone.You'd think people would have learnt by now not to write him off. Yes he was terrible last night, and yes he's been on a poor run. But he'll pop up at some point in the season when we really need him, you can almost guarantee it.
I more mean in absolutely clutch scenarios. People seem to forget we'd probably not have even made the europa league without him in the CL.He's starting every game up front for us and taking penalties so of course he'll score an important goal or two. The problem is loads of other forwards could too and for £600k a week we could almost have anyone.
But this is a total non sequitur. The games go entirely different if there isn’t a passenger up front. Did that passenger get a last minute goal? Maybe, with movement up top we might be 3-0 up and not need those goals.I more mean in absolutely clutch scenarios. People seem to forget we'd probably not have even made the europa league without him in the CL.
We don't know that, we might have played better with a more dynamic player up front and not needed last minute goals.I more mean in absolutely clutch scenarios. People seem to forget we'd probably not have even made the europa league without him in the CL.
How do you know that? Without him playing, the team is more cohesive and might not have won even more easily.I more mean in absolutely clutch scenarios. People seem to forget we'd probably not have even made the europa league without him in the CL.
Yeah, for example, he was absolutely terrible against Villarreal at home and got a quite fortunate goal in the last minute. Cavani coming on made a bigger impact in that game when he came on. In the game against Atalanta, 100% Ronaldo deserves the credit, but in the end Atalanta finished 5 points behind United. They only got 1 point against Villarreal in 2 games, and drew against Young Boys as well. We would have had a very good chance of going through regardless, such were the other results in the group.But this is a total non sequitur. The games go entirely different if there isn’t a passenger up front. Did that passenger get a last minute goal? Maybe, with movement up top we might be 3-0 up and not need those goals.
This. Ronaldo fans are becoming desperate to justify him, reminds me of when Ole fans were supporting him rather than our own club. Sensible arguments have gone out the window, people are now ignoring science and reality, pretending that he is 37 year old but hasn’t aged. Every goal he scores they contribute entirely to him and say we would be hopeless without him as if we didn’t finish 2nd last season without him.But this is a total non sequitur. The games go entirely different if there isn’t a passenger up front. Did that passenger get a last minute goal? Maybe, with movement up top we might be 3-0 up and not need those goals.
Simply not true about his finishing. There have been multiple times where he gets a 1 on 1 to the keeper and just smashes the ball through the middle. Yesterday happened again.I think his all round game is OK, his touch is tight enough and he still finishes really well (tho obviously not last night)
The issue is he can't explode anymore, those first few yards where he'd burst into space have gone. He's pretty slow now really
He's also been surprisingly weak, I expected far better strength from him
I said it a couple of weeks ago he'd be a great impact sub against tired minds and bodies but he seemingly insists on starting every game and there's no question he hampers our play
But this is a total non sequitur. The games go entirely different if there isn’t a passenger up front. Did that passenger get a last minute goal? Maybe, with movement up top we might be 3-0 up and not need those goals.
We don't know that, we might have played better with a more dynamic player up front and not needed last minute goals.
Sure if you want to go down the route of another player potentially performing better in a system that had proved over the last 3 seasons to make players worse then sure. However what actually transpired was Ronaldo scoring goal after important goal while the team looked devoid of any confidence or creativity.How do you know that? Without him playing, the team is more cohesive and might not have won even more easily.
On the other hand, last night was an important clutch moment, and he shrunk which resulted in us being eliminated from another competition.
I'm guessing this is aimed at me given he quoted me?This. Ronaldo fans are becoming desperate to justify him, reminds me of when Ole fans were supporting him rather than our own club. Sensible arguments have gone out the window, people are now ignoring science and reality, pretending that he is 37 year old but hasn’t aged. Every goal he scores they contribute entirely to him and say we would be hopeless without him as if we didn’t finish 2nd last season without him.
Bench him for who exactly? Cavani that only seems to play when he wants to?haha, he is absolutely finished. Yes, he will score some more goals, but he will still be shit and offer nothing to our football. The sooner Rangnick will bench him, the better.
So no,he won't take it in other wordsRooney 253.
Ronaldo 118.
Not at all, I actually wrote a direct reply to your post if your scroll up. I said I agreed with everything you said in your assessment of Ronaldo!I'm guessing this is aimed at me given he quoted me?
I'm not a Ronaldo fan by any means, but I support my team and right now Ronaldo is a part of that team. Last night was our best performance in ages barring the finishing which is obviously a key part.
However, I'd rather be creating chances and not taking them, than creating feck all and scoring a random flukey goal. Last night can be built on and if the performance level stays around that mark we'll win miles more games than we lose
No longer true. All the stats show his finishing so far this season has been on a par with low to mid table strikers. Nobody does it better? Not any more.Not at all, I actually wrote a direct reply to your post if your scroll up. I said I agreed with everything you said in your assessment of Ronaldo!
Ronaldo should be a key part of the squad. Your absolutely right that we aren’t making enough chances. To make it worst though, we have made in the focal point of our team.
He’s starting every single game, being kept on for the full 90 mins. He's 37 years old and will be a passenger for large parts of the game but as you say if you supply him chances then he will tuck them away all day. Nobody does it better than him. We desperately need to start playing as a team, and creating chances.
Might add that he shoots on a scale that is comparable to players like Lewandowski and Haaland - which is what he's always done (shoot a lot). But he no longer produces anything special from all this shooting. If you post insane numbers - and your team wins trophies - nobody will scrutinize you as a finisher.No longer true. All the stats show his finishing so far this season has been on a par with low to mid table strikers. Nobody does it better? Not any more.
There’s no need to create fictional scenarios in your head that didn’t happen to defend your boy.Nobody in our team, including Ronald, is going to score loads of goals because the forwards have to survive on scraps. Look at last night, most balls to the forwards were over hit or hopelessly inaccurate. We appear to have a team who are incapable of doing the simplest tasks on a regular basis, like passing to a colleague. Unless it is backwards where we are almost competent. Look at our corners and free kicks into the box, usually over hit, especially if the defenders are big guys (they usually are ). Shaw’s corners were abysmal last night as were his attempts at crossing and Dalot’s were not much better. Forwards are made or broke by the supply they get and ours fare very badly.
We tried cavani - even less helpful.Should be a super sub. He'd be the mother of all super subs. Cavani should start. He offers a true traditional CF role of hold up, heading and poaching.
Yeah, he can't seem to make that yard of space to get off a shot anywhere near as easily. Amazing it took this long.I think his all round game is OK, his touch is tight enough and he still finishes really well (tho obviously not last night)
The issue is he can't explode anymore, those first few yards where he'd burst into space have gone. He's pretty slow now really
He's also been surprisingly weak, I expected far better strength from him
I said it a couple of weeks ago he'd be a great impact sub against tired minds and bodies but he seemingly insists on starting every game and there's no question he hampers our play
Last year we didn't have Ronaldo and we finished in the third position in the third place in the Groups stage of CL, and we had to play Europa League. This season with Ronaldo scoring in every CL game we finished in the first position and we're gonna play the CL knock out phase. So we can say we improved with Ronaldo.How do you know that? Without him playing, the team is more cohesive and might not have won even more easily.
On the other hand, last night was an important clutch moment, and he shrunk which resulted in us being eliminated from another competition.
So first of all you think the passing in general and to the forwards in particular was acceptable? Secondly, who do you assume is “my boy” that I’m defending?There’s no need to create fictional scenarios in your head that didn’t happen to defend your boy.
We also finished second in the league last season, so we can comfortably say we have regressed with Ronaldo.Last year we didn't have Ronaldo and we finished in the third position in the third place in the Groups stage of CL, and we had to play Europa League. This season with Ronaldo scoring in every CL game we finished in the first position and we're gonna play the CL knock out phase. So we can say we improved with Ronaldo.
Varane is shit as wellWe also finished second in the league last season, so we can comfortably say we have regressed with Ronaldo.
He’s hardly played tbf, bit of a sick note.Varane is shit as well
What?Varane is shit as well
1. Yes. 2. Ronaldo.So first of all you think the passing in general and to the forwards in particular was acceptable? Secondly, who do you assume is “my boy” that I’m defending?