UpWithRivers
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How mad is this guy. Will he nuke Ukraine if he gets power? Not sure of this is a good or bad thing.
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It was always going to lead to one once started there can’t be a special and limited coup operation (SLCO) like Putin wanted with Ukraine.So basically confirmation this has moved into an attempted coup now?
If anyone overthrows Putin, he will certainly stop the war in Ukraine and blame everything on Putin.How mad is this guy. Will he nuke Ukraine if he gets power? Not sure of this is a good or bad thing.
Knowing how that went on the last time they did that (South Sudan, 2016), oof!China to send in peacekeeping forces?
Looks like there is no way back now.Possible civil war in Russia?
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I’m pretty sure you can rule out Russia nuking itselfPutin might not launch nukes against foreign nations, but, Wagner could become a real threat to him, certainly can't rule it out for this scenario.
Wonder what the world will say then, he would only be attacking his own country, words of condemnation, nothing more?
If Wagner aims for Moscow, no, i wouldn't rule it out.I’m pretty sure you can rule out Russia nuking itself
Funnily enough, y'all are one of the few teams that won a series against us thus far!Boys are doing really well! Mets, not so much
Oh, for god's sake, forget the nukes. It's just bullshit. Nobody will launch nukes.Putin might not launch nukes against foreign nations, but, Wagner could become a real threat to him, certainly can't rule it out for this scenario.
Wonder what the world will say then, he would only be attacking his own country, words of condemnation, nothing more?
Correction it's a special military operation to liberate Russia.The Russian invasion of Russia has started..
Trying to get into position for an assassination attempt I'd imagine.Where are Putin's special forces? I thought a plane went to Rostov, did they get lost or smth?
That's a very nice summing up.Who knew that allowing private military companies to form, freely recruit thousands of disenfranchised people from penal colonies and then use state resources to arm them with heavy weaponry like IFVs, MBTs and artillery would see them turn against the state when the state becomes weak?
I have to say. Putin for a long time enjoyed a reputation akin to an evil genius or puppet master here in the West. But in the last few years the facade has completely fallen. He should have stayed happy with his kleptocracy by milking the Russian state and people to the end of his days. But he had an ambition to build a great legacy and enter a pantheon of Russian leaders by expanding the borders of his huge state. And now he reminds me more of a Russian version of the British classic, pub-dwelling, bumbling, nationalist idiot full of “Great Empire” revanchism and bravado but very little intellect to back anything up.
It's not a stupid question, and I'd take with a pinch of salt anyone who says they definitively can.Might be a stupid question at this point of the conflict, but: How does someone like me differentiate wagner groups in something like that from ordinary russian troops?
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Doubt the oligarchy would run if it wasn't plausible that this attempt may actually succeed.Tweet
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Shoot them with various types of SAMsMy first thought was exactly this - What are 25,000 or 50,000 troops going to do against planes in the sky?
Well presumably try to shoot them down. You need a lot of missiles to take out 25,000 trained and armoured troops I should think.My first thought was exactly this - What are 25,000 or 50,000 troops going to do against planes in the sky?
Going by the state of the Russian supplies, I’d be surprised if they’re flight-worthy. Would likely just detonate as soon as some rusty bit caves in and thus obliterating the user.Oh, for god's sake, forget the nukes. It's just bullshit. Nobody will launch nukes.