No, not end of. Do you know anything about Russia's military. The state it has been in for years? Do you how much their arms depend on western technology? Do you think it is that easy for Russia to conquer Ukraine? They are miniscule economically and outdated when it comes to majority of their arms. And they are bleeding money-wise like hell now.Knowing Russia is planning on attacking Ukraine and knowing what Putins goals are and plans are for this are 2 completely different things. Russia have been mobilising troops around Ukraine for years it's not exactly a shot in the dark that they would eventually attack.
I just disagree with the notion that Putin has intended on taking over Ukraine by now, I don't think America is more knowledgeable about the goings on and military ability in Ukraine than Putin and the Russians. If Putin wanted Ukraine by now he'd have it. End of. There's some deeper plan or goal going on.
Some people seem to love the image of Putin being a Bond-esque mastermind baddy. You only have to look at the Salisbury poisoning to see how slipshod their operations are behind the scenes.which is where the difference of opinion starts to show. Some people think putin and the Kremlin are masterminds.
I’m starting to see they have no strategy and are out of touch. Why send a very small team of troops to try and take lviv? Makes no sense. Russia aren’t credible strategically or tactically.
It's baffling, seen people in here bigging up him and his army like they're some sort of unstoppable force and we all should sit back and be scared.Some people seem to love the image of Putin being a Bond-esque mastermind baddy. You only have to look at the Salisbury poisoning to see how slipshod their operations are behind the scenes.
Are they not just acknowledging his unreasonably large unilateral power, which is pretty terrifying.Not sure why some are putting Putin on some godlike pedestal, he's a big bully boy.
The US military are sitting there, taking notes, and probably laughing their heads off.which is where the difference of opinion starts to show. Some people think putin and the Kremlin are masterminds.
I’m starting to see they have no strategy and are out of touch. Why send a very small team of troops to try and take lviv? Makes no sense. Russia aren’t credible strategically or tactically.
They can’t put everyone in jail though, can they? I know it is unlikely, but if there was ever to be the beginning of a revolt in Russia, surely this is the most likely moment in Putin’s Russia?It won’t happen. Last nights protests were brutally stamped out and even though the anti-war sentiment is pretty popular it’s mostly petitions, open letters etc. As is the nature of any anti-war protest, it’s not very well comparable with violence while Putin & his goons are not afraid (or, rather, are happy to) inflict violence on anyone who puts their head up.
Well to be a leader of a country/any country in the world you'll need a few brain cells. I'm not saying Putin is the mastermind that some people say he is but even the Caf is bewildered at the fact that he's apparently expecting to invade a whole country with a few thousand 18-23 year olds. Either the West are falsifying information in claiming Russia want Ukraine or maybe it is just like he (Putin) himself said: It's just a minor military exercise in taking out certain tactical locations within Ukraine.which is where the difference of opinion starts to show. Some people think putin and the Kremlin are masterminds.
I’m starting to see they have no strategy and are out of touch. Why send a very small team of troops to try and take lviv? Makes no sense. Russia aren’t credible strategically or tactically.
It will certainly come at a hefty price, but right now Ukraine is paying a rather hefty price....A western intervention in terms of military action is a bad ida, as it will play into Putins hand and simply result in more support. One can always hope that someone in his circle sees the direction they're heading in, for no reason whatsoever, and they plot to get rid of Putin to avoid a disaster where there truly will be very few winners. Alternatively, one can always hope that the sanctions will be so harsh on everyone in Russia that he loses all support.It won’t happen. Last nights protests were brutally stamped out and even though the anti-war sentiment is pretty popular it’s mostly petitions, open letters etc. As is the nature of any anti-war protest, it’s not very well comparable with violence while Putin & his goons are not afraid (or, rather, are happy to) inflict violence on anyone who puts their head up.
Well that's what we seem to be doing right ?It's baffling, seen people in here bigging up him and his army like they're some sort of unstoppable force and we all should sit back and be scared.
No, you 'run' Russia since 99 by removing the liberty of all that opposed youYou don't run a country like Russia since 99 by thinking you can invade Ukraine with a few thousand 20-23 year olds.
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I never said or indicated they had no power.Well that's what we seem to be doing right ?
I mean any other country on earth other than Russia/China attacks a European country they'd be bombed into oblivion within a day.
But you seem to think Russia and Putin have no power at all and we (the West) are just sitting on our thumbs because our leaders are too busy having dinner.
Nah they're shit scared as well mate.
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It's called hubris. Psychopathic strongmen dictators surrounded by yes men are prone to it.Seems bizarre to me too, although I haven’t a clue about military stuff. We’re not three days into this and people seem to expect the Russians to be in control of all the major urban centres including the capital? Took the US something like three weeks just to get to the outskirts of Baghdad, more time then to take the city. US army being far more powerful than Russian, and Iraqi army being (I presume) in a weaker state than today’s Ukrainian army.
Minor military exercise my arse.Well to be a leader of a country/any country in the world you'll need a few brain cells. I'm not saying Putin is the mastermind that some people say he is but even the Caf is bewildered at the fact that he's apparently expecting to invade a whole country with a few thousand 18-23 year olds. Either the West are falsifying information in claiming Russia want Ukraine or maybe it is just like he (Putin) himself said: It's just a minor military exercise in taking out certain tactical locations within Ukraine.
I, personally think it's more probable that what Putin is saying is true more than a full on invasion.
You don't run a country like Russia since 99 by thinking you can invade Ukraine with a few thousand 20-23 year olds.
Well if the same resistance is shown after Georgia and previous incursions into Ukraine, not ti mention Syria, then we are right to be scared for the people in Ukraine.It's baffling, seen people in here bigging up him and his army like they're some sort of unstoppable force and we all should sit back and be scared.
Hardly a mastermind baddy, but certainly not a complete moron either considering how long he's been in charge and the amount of shit he's done without real consequence.Some people seem to love the image of Putin being a Bond-esque mastermind baddy. You only have to look at the Salisbury poisoning to see how slipshod their operations are behind the scenes.
Nicely putNo, you 'run' Russia since 99 by removing the liberty of all that opposed you
Well to be a leader of a country/any country in the world you'll need a few brain cells. I'm not saying Putin is the mastermind that some people say he is but even the Caf is bewildered at the fact that he's apparently expecting to invade a whole country with a few thousand 18-23 year olds. Either the West are falsifying information in claiming Russia want Ukraine or maybe it is just like he (Putin) himself said: It's just a minor military exercise in taking out certain tactical locations within Ukraine.
I, personally think it's more probable that what Putin is saying is true more than a full on invasion.
You don't run a country like Russia since 99 by thinking you can invade Ukraine with a few thousand 20-23 year olds.
Exactly.Hardly a mastermind baddy, but certainly not a complete moron either considering how long he's been in charge and the amount of shit he's done without real consequence.
Completely misunderstanding what i was saying, so we will leave it at that. But i never said Ukraine and their people shouldn't be fearful, that wasn't the context of what i was meaning.Well if the same resistance is shown after Georgia and previous incursions into Ukraine, not ti mention Syria, then we are right to be scared for the people in Ukraine.
It's not that they are unstoppable but more do we want to stop them. Do we really want to upset how interwoven they are in the financial world. There are so many compromising elements.
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He has done it inside of his country mainly. Crimea was lost because of Ukranian politicians at the time. This time around they have a truly democratic President and he has USA and EU behind him helping ptotect his homeland. Russia is in a deep shit and they are losing billions each and every day.Hardly a mastermind baddy, but certainly not a complete moron either considering how long he's been in charge and the amount of shit he's done without real consequence.
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I actually think that he is relatively smart but I think not very bright people can stay in power for too long.Hardly a mastermind baddy, but certainly not a complete moron either considering how long he's been in charge and the amount of shit he's done without real consequence.
Zuckerberg will capitulate to the Russian government. Mark my words.@harms how true is this? I haven’t been watching Russian news as in no doubt that it will be heavily sanitised.
I have however seen video footage on VK which everyone else can see if they so wished.
Do you think the average Russian knows what’s going on the ground in Ukraine and how far Russian forces have advanced? Obviously it goes without saying that Russian media wouldn’t post even very conservative casualties sustained so no point in even asking.
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That’s just the bubbling drink, though… the same newspaper has today a column by Marina Hyde here https://www.theguardian.com/comment...s-oligarchs-london-government-putin-donations that goes deeper and shows how oligarchs have settled so well in London. I mean, it is not the moment to make an assessment of their penetration in the UK and in Europe, yet it is a point many will have to cnsider for what happens next, and their role in supporting (maybe unsupporting, from tomorrow?) mad vlad with the complicity of our elites, our parties and our nutters.Someone has very busy lawyers right now. Maybe time to put pressure on the Chelsea Pitch Owners.
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Let's hope so.He has done it inside of his country mainly. Crimea was lost because of Ukranian politicians at the time. This time around they have a truly democratic President and he has USA and EU behind him helping ptotect his homeland. Russia is in a deep shit and they are losing billions each and every day.
That's unlikely as well — at least not in a short-term perspective. Russian military losses are restricted — you have to literally count the graves, like journalists did when the whole post-2014 war in the Eastern Ukraine happened, to get a rough estimate.1000 Russian soldiers dying first few days is (unfortunately) better than thousands of Ukraine civilians days later. If anything is going to stop Putin then it's his people dying and masses of his people being against him and against war in general because of that. At least we can hope.
Newcastle United will get a load of new fans.Wouldn't that be a shame