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Sancho won’t return to Man Utd until he's ready - Way too much inappropriate speculation.

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Does it sound like that? Which words do you think make it sound like that? It read to me like Ten Hag sent a player on a specialist training regime during what is essentially the off-season. I didn't get any dairy vibes.

You're right about Maguire, he was treated appallingly by a large section of our Internet-based fans. Let's try and do better!
He's got enough special treatment, he was given a free ride last season and hardly received much if any criticism for his lacklustre displays. It's only til now the media have taken notice of his appalling performances and he's jetted off to neverland to be ready physically and mentallly one day while he gets paid nearly half a million a week.

I'm sorry but manchester united is not a therapy outreach patient care centre, we're a football club who have goals and this is a cut throat industry. If you're not performing and the pressure is too much, there is the door!
 

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Let’s knock it off with the insults (whether intended or not)
Tbh some of the attitudes towards MH are quite offensive especially when posters have spoken about how they have struggled themselves.

Not a good endorsement of Red Cafe at all.
 

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My biggest worry is this is a Deli Alli situation and it's simply a case of get all the wealth young and losing that motivation and drive that got you where you are.

I hope its not the case but I suspect sadly it might very well be.
Have to question the sanity of whoever (Judge and Woodward) offered a 21 year old from the Bundesliga £350k a week. That's what Liverpool gave 29 yo Salah after he brought them to a CL and league title.

And the same as what infinite-money City are paying Haaland (on the books). Essentially we put Sancho on the same pedestal as Haaland and Mbappe despite him having an equatable career to that point as Kagawa and Mkhitaryan.

No one else was after him, how did his wage offer get inflated to 3x his value? If it is just a case of weak/lazy mentality then the club is to blame for paying him the sort of money you'd offer a late-20s decorated serial winner.
 

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Haven't read all the quotes in this thread but I haven't seen anyone say he should be immune from mental health issues (if he actually has mental health issues that is, people seem to be jumping to conclusions) due to his high wages.
If you havent read all the quotes then that will be why you havent seen anyone talk about his wages being a reason he shouldnt have any mental health issues.
Spoiler: Its been said.
 

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No, it’s not. Mentality is referring purely to his mindset toward training and competing on the pitch. Unless he qualifies it differently, which he didn’t, that was the context.
Not necessarily. If he's struggling with his mental health it affects way more important aspects of his life than those.
 

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Young lad. Bigger pressure than any of us will ever face. It's a surprise more footballers don't need time away to get their head sorted. So glad Ten Hag and the United staff are taking the time to understand him and help him get back to his best.
100% agree. It raises awareness of the massive problems that ill mental health causes and that it needs just as much care as physical injuries. Cannot applaud the management more for just giving him the time and space he needs.

Men's mental health is so overlooked in this country and it's this nonchalance, and worse downplaying of it, that leads to suicide. If you're in an environment where you don't feel comfortable opening up because you are made to feel embarrassed or mocked for it, that results in you not getting the professional care you need, and sadly this just piles on and they take the only way out they have left.

If you know a man who you think is struggling, be a listening ear, sometimes that's all it takes. Sometimes they need more professional help, but you being a friend to them is a huge stepping stone towards it.

I'm a Mental Health First Aider at work and we held a men's mental health chat a while ago and it was very well attended, and men did speak up. This can have a very positive snowball effect as it encourages other men to do the same.

Apologies for derailing a bit, but this seemed a good place to talk about this.

Do you reckon a thread simply called "Mens Mental Health" would be good to open? I don't have the ability to do it, but I think a lot of people would benefit from it.
 
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Does it sound like that? Which words do you think make it sound like that? It read to me like Ten Hag sent a player on a specialist training regime during what is essentially the off-season. I didn't get any dairy vibes.

You're right about Maguire, he was treated appallingly by a large section of our Internet-based fans. Let's try and do better!
Somebody posted the full ETH quotes and that is what it sounds like. He doesn't mention mental issues, but mentality issues.
 

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Rather that then rush him back before he’s ready. Lad has been on an upward trajectory throughout his whole adolescence, joins a club in the midst of dumpster fire under a manager who after a matter of weeks turned to a winger less system to try & save his job. Was then managed by a sports directive. Started the sec bud season lively enough then succumbed to personal issues.

I like the fact EtH is being honest but allowing him time. No point throwing him in again when he’s sounded that he’s not ready.
 

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Well we always seem to end up with the wrong type of players, players whom, for one reason or another, are unsuited to play in a team who is aiming to seriously compete for top honours.. Considering that we're definitely won't win anything with so many sob cases around then maybe we should consider creating the empathy cup. I'd suggest we call it the Ole cup in the honour of the guy who helped assemble this great squad.
I think mental health is prevalent in todays society.

Many teenagers face it and the majority face some form of mental health issues in their lifetime, when I lost my dad I had a good few months to a year. I have friends that have chronic depression and they're normal people but it's their thought patterns that often lead them there which is why they end up going to things like CBT.

The point here isn't to say "we have sob cases" it's to look at ways to promote wellness, and get the best out of players. Football clubs, workplaces need to adjust to the 21st century, these kind of issues are well known now.

Guess what? it's always been there, it was in the 1980s with drinking culture in football, it was in the 90s, in the 2000s but people just didn't speak about it, now it is there. It's the reason sometimes players don't recover and you get players that just diminish.

Football clubs aren't stuck in pre-social media days where players got more abuse on them than ever. What do you do every time a player has mental health issues? transfer list them and say "this ones broken"? because you'd be doing that every season.

When a final is decided on penalties, after a bad run of form it affects players differently. You need to get players tools to deal with it.

If it's just his mentality (Sancho) on being a top level athlete then that just needs to be engrained in him. Through what to do in right moments of the game, positive reinforcement because as a player and technically he has everything.

Not sure what this camp is for, to get him ready physically, or alter how he reacts in games, no idea its speculation.
 

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My biggest worry is this is a Deli Alli situation and it's simply a case of get all the wealth young and losing that motivation and drive that got you where you are.

I hope its not the case but I suspect sadly it might very well be.
I don't think that's the case. It didn't seem to be the case at Dortmund where he already earned 10 million in his last season, more than Dele Alli ever earned I believe.

I reckon it's much more the case of him joining United at a tumultuous time, and never fully finding his place in the team hierarchy. Not many United players managed to perform well during that same time period, and for a young player like Sancho who relies more on team chemistry than individual moments of brilliance that would be even more difficult.
 

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Have to give him the benefit of the doubt, it looks like this season may well be another write off for him though.

I am sure serious consideration will be given to offloading him the summer, and if not he has probably one more season before he is cast aside as a huge flop.

You’d hope and expect competition for places will be even tougher next season so he has a big challenge ahead of him. He has flown under the radar despite being a big flop but suspect there will be a lot more attention on him now, at time when he doesn’t really need it.
 

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I think mental health is prevalent in todays society.

Many teenagers face it and the majority face some form of mental health issues in their lifetime, when I lost my dad I had a good few months to a year. I have friends that have chronic depression and they're normal people but it's their thought patterns that often lead them there which is why they end up going to things like CBT.

The point here isn't to say "we have sob cases" it's to look at ways to promote wellness, and get the best out of players. Football clubs, workplaces need to adjust to the 21st century, these kind of issues are well known now.

Guess what? it's always been there, it was in the 1980s with drinking culture in football, it was in the 90s, in the 2000s but people just didn't speak about it, now it is there. It's the reason sometimes players don't recover and you get players that just diminish.

Football clubs aren't stuck in pre-social media days where players got more abuse on them than ever. What do you do every time a player has mental health issues? transfer list them and say "this ones broken"? because you'd be doing that every season.

When a final is decided on penalties, after a bad run of form it affects players differently. You need to get players tools to deal with it.

If it's just his mentality (Sancho) on being a top level athlete then that just needs to be engrained in him. Through what to do in right moments of the game, positive reinforcement because as a player and technically he has everything.

Not sure what this camp is for, to get him ready physically, or alter how he reacts in games, no idea its speculation.
I think mental health is prevalent in todays society.

Many teenagers face it and the majority face some form of mental health issues in their lifetime, when I lost my dad I had a good few months to a year. I have friends that have chronic depression and they're normal people but it's their thought patterns that often lead them there which is why they end up going to things like CBT.

The point here isn't to say "we have sob cases" it's to look at ways to promote wellness, and get the best out of players. Football clubs, workplaces need to adjust to the 21st century, these kind of issues are well known now.

Guess what? it's always been there, it was in the 1980s with drinking culture in football, it was in the 90s, in the 2000s but people just didn't speak about it, now it is there. It's the reason sometimes players don't recover and you get players that just diminish.

Football clubs aren't stuck in pre-social media days where players got more abuse on them than ever. What do you do every time a player has mental health issues? transfer list them and say "this ones broken"? because you'd be doing that every season.

When a final is decided on penalties, after a bad run of form it affects players differently. You need to get players tools to deal with it.

If it's just his mentality (Sancho) on being a top level athlete then that just needs to be engrained in him. Through what to do in right moments of the game, positive reinforcement because as a player and technically he has everything.

Not sure what this camp is for, to get him ready physically, or alter how he reacts in games, no idea its speculation.
I feel sorry for Sancho and I hope he get well soon. I had and still have some serious MH issues which had lately gone worse with the death of a very close relative of mine who was like a father to me. I am still functional but I know how hard it can be even to get up of bed and do your share.

My point wasn't about Sancho at all but about the club who keep on stacking players whom, for one reason or another (mentality, physical, talent wise etc) are unsuited for the club. A squad btw who expect full sympathy by the fans but isn't shy to repeatedly throw managers under the bus when things start getting wrong. That's something the club need to tackle. We need to become wiser, more cynical, and we need to analyse players beyond their talent (ie mentality wise etc). Not every player is suited to the top irrespective of talent. That's why having experienced people across the board (ex DOF), who have enough contacts to know what's going behind close doors and how players behave at the training ground or outside of the football pitch are valuable. That's something we lack and why we keep stacking players whom, for one reason or another, are unsuited for a club like ours.

Hopefully new owners will change things around. ETH seems already changing things around by bringing people who are hungry for success and seem to have the right attitude to succeed.

Of course you can disagree with me. You might think that I am insensitive towards the likes of Ronaldo, Maguire, Greenwood, Jones, Sancho etc because I wasn't thrilled of having people on our payroll who aren't carrying their own weight. However May I remind everyone that when a young SAF fount a huge drinking problem at the club he didn't founded an AA support group. He sold out most of those players and gave an ultimatum to the rest to sort their shit up. Does that make him an ahole? Of course not. But Manchester United come first.
 
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BREAKING:

Sancho has been sent into the cold secret mountains of can't say village in the Netherlands for some manga level training as ETH very quickly recognised a rare but dormant beast gene which has been suppressed for years by a combination of Sancho's natural joviality and modern society.

The secret order of monks training him have one purpose: peel the onion of comforts away to awaken the beast gene deep within with traditional techniques passed down from before primordial soup even existed.

If successful, he'll return with spiky hair, a gaunt, yet intimidating visage, arms ripped off all his jerseys leaving jagged edges, eyes that occasionally turn red in games, the curious thing being whenever this happens Sancho is only able to speak or understand Japanese
 

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BREAKING:

Sancho has been sent into the cold secret mountains of can't say village in the Netherlands for some manga level training as ETH very quickly recognised a rare but dormant beast gene which has been suppressed for years by a combination of Sancho's natural joviality and modern society.

The secret order of monks training him have one purpose: peel the onion of comforts away to awaken the beast gene deep within with traditional techniques passed down from before primordial soup even existed.

If successful, he'll return with spiky hair, a gaunt, yet intimidating visage, arms ripped off all his jerseys leaving jagged edges, eyes that occasionally turn red in games, the curious thing being whenever this happens Sancho is only able to speak or understand Japanese
They sent him to train in with Piccolo inside Goku's hyperbolic time chamber
 

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BREAKING:

Sancho has been sent into the cold secret mountains of can't say village in the Netherlands for some manga level training as ETH very quickly recognised a rare but dormant beast gene which has been suppressed for years by a combination of Sancho's natural joviality and modern society.

The secret order of monks training him have one purpose: peel the onion of comforts away to awaken the beast gene deep within with traditional techniques passed down from before primordial soup even existed.

If successful, he'll return with spiky hair, a gaunt, yet intimidating visage, arms ripped off all his jerseys leaving jagged edges, eyes that occasionally turn red in games, the curious thing being whenever this happens Sancho is only able to speak or understand Japanese
Heard rumors, master Lu-Wan Gal will be overseeing preparations in teaching philosophy of Weego-foritism.
 

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I feel sorry for Sancho and I hope he get well soon. I had and still have some serious MH issues which had lately gone worse with the death of a very close relative of mine who was like a father to me. I am still functional but I know how hard it can be even to get up of bed and do your share.

My point wasn't about Sancho at all but about the club who keep on stacking players whom, for one reason or another (mentality, physical, talent wise etc) are unsuited for the club. A squad btw who expect full sympathy by the fans but isn't shy to repeatedly throw managers under the bus when things start getting wrong. That's something the club need to tackle. We need to become wiser, more cynical, and we need to analyse players beyond their talent (ie mentality wise etc). Not every player is suited to the top irrespective of talent. That's why having experienced people across the board (ex DOF), who have enough contacts to know what's going behind close doors and how players behave at the training ground or outside of the football pitch are valuable. That's something we lack and why we keep stacking players whom, for one reason or another, are unsuited for a club like ours.

Hopefully new owners will change things around. ETH seems already changing things around by bringing people who are hungry for success and seem to have the right attitude to succeed.

Of course you can disagree with me. You might think that I am insensitive towards the likes of Ronaldo, Maguire, Greenwood, Jones, Sancho etc because I wasn't thrilled of having people on our payroll who aren't carrying their own weight. However May I remind everyone that when a young SAF fount a huge drinking problem at the club he didn't founded an AA support group. He sold out most of those players and gave an ultimatum to the rest to sort their shit up. Does that make him an ahole? Of course not. But Manchester United come first.

It is part of being an athlete for sure, and its why I think they need to be given tools e.g. CBT or wellness sessions to deal with it.

I do think its a bit shitty that there's pressure for them to have social media accounts though, from sponsors and whoever, but again they can just pay someone to manage those accounts too.

I don't use Twitter, Instagram, Facebook any of the major platforms, and I don't think players should feel the need especially if they can have an agency that can handle it for them.

If its an issue for the players that is.

The pressures of being a player is something they need to cope with through experience, e.g. missing a penalty in a Euro final.

That's something a coach or senior player needs to say "this is how I felt when I missed mine, play through it and perform at the next level to get to another final" etc.
 

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BREAKING:

Sancho has been sent into the cold secret mountains of can't say village in the Netherlands for some manga level training as ETH very quickly recognised a rare but dormant beast gene which has been suppressed for years by a combination of Sancho's natural joviality and modern society.

The secret order of monks training him have one purpose: peel the onion of comforts away to awaken the beast gene deep within with traditional techniques passed down from before primordial soup even existed.

If successful, he'll return with spiky hair, a gaunt, yet intimidating visage, arms ripped off all his jerseys leaving jagged edges, eyes that occasionally turn red in games, the curious thing being whenever this happens Sancho is only able to speak or understand Japanese
They sent him to train in with Piccolo inside Goku's hyperbolic time chamber
They just need to send him to Blue Lock
 

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Yes - big wages make you super human. You deserve zero compassion just because your paycheck says so. :houllier: :houllier: :houllier:
I'll entertain you. I said there should be limit of the support, and it can't go on for years. It means the support is fine but it can not go on for years. Which is 1.5 years and counting for Sancho that allow him to not do his proper job without any repercussion.

Imagine you love working for a company for decades. Your company has been stagnant for years, and need to improve.

Then you have a 22 y.o. kid making 18 million / yr working on your company. BUT he can't do his job properly for one and half year and counting, because he's physically and mentally are not capable.

So, do you:
1. Let him stay in your company for years, on the basis of to give him all the time and support (after 1.5+ years of doing average job). Or,
2. Give him a deadline to sort his things out. If he still can't, then fire him and get someone who is capable to do the job, thus increase the chance of your company (the company that you love) to improve.
 
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I really don’t mind the club trying to do what it takes to get what is a very talented young lad to get back to his very best. If ETH feels that this is necessary then I’m behind the idea.
 

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Anyone mentioning his wages in this thread is an idiot and a prick.
If it's in the sense of 'he's rich so he should get over it' then yes I agree.

I would say though it's naive to think people won't talk about money though, and that it isn't at all a factor.

Being paid hundreds of thousands per week and being in the public eye (and at a young age) comes with it's own unique pressure but they are free to walk away from that life if they want, and can often resume their lucrative career once healthy again. They are also privileged to be able to benefit from the best care & rehab money can buy.

A non super-wealthy person suffering from health challenges (physical or mental) usually doesn't have either of those options.

Just to be clear - I think it's absolutely wrong to say footballers (or anyone rich) should 'get over it', and I sympathise with anyone struggling with mental health and urge them to seek support.
 

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So, do you:
1. Let him stay in your company for years, on the basis of to give him all the time and support (after 1.5+ years of doing average job). Or,
2. Give him a deadline to sort his things out. If he still can't, then fire him and get someone who is capable to do the job, thus increase the chance of your company (the company that you love) to improve.
Explain how this firing procedure would work on a 6year footballers contract. Asking for a friend.
 

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Not easy at all coming to a bigger club (arguably not better but undoubtedly bigger), getting a huge contract, being expected to deliver relative to yer transfer fee/paycheck.

Being English on top of that, thus per default getting even more scrutiny from the merciless English media.

Then the manager who signed you (more or less right in this case) is sacked and a season of utter turmoil follows.

Let's not forget that we're talking about a young player here, hardly a seasoned pro.

Hopefully, ETH can ease him back in and make use of his talent (this is not a case of us signing a dud - that idea is ridiculous).
 

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He's got enough special treatment, he was given a free ride last season and hardly received much if any criticism for his lacklustre displays. It's only til now the media have taken notice of his appalling performances and he's jetted off to neverland to be ready physically and mentallly one day while he gets paid nearly half a million a week.

I'm sorry but manchester united is not a therapy outreach patient care centre, we're a football club who have goals and this is a cut throat industry. If you're not performing and the pressure is too much, there is the door!
Agree entirely. Careful though, you are likey to be called a prick, idiot etc for saying so, as I was a few pages back.

Have to question the sanity of whoever (Judge and Woodward) offered a 21 year old from the Bundesliga £350k a week. That's what Liverpool gave 29 yo Salah after he brought them to a CL and league title.

And the same as what infinite-money City are paying Haaland (on the books). Essentially we put Sancho on the same pedestal as Haaland and Mbappe despite him having an equatable career to that point as Kagawa and Mkhitaryan.

No one else was after him, how did his wage offer get inflated to 3x his value? If it is just a case of weak/lazy mentality then the club is to blame for paying him the sort of money you'd offer a late-20s decorated serial winner.
Great post and this is entirely the problem, especially when it was public knowledge before we signed him that he had issues with discipline while at Dortmund.

I have faith however that ETH will resolve it. Give him this opportunity to get up to speed and if he doesn't try and off load in the summer.
 

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Anyone can struggle with mental health issues, I have in the past and still struggle going up and down now. People being harsh need to just accept it.
 

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Anyone can struggle with mental health issues, I have in the past and still struggle going up and down now. People being harsh need to just accept it.
So every player who doesn't perform, and cries mental health we should molly coddle and keep and pray their symptoms one day disappear?

If he is suffering mental health, which is just speculation so far, since there is confirmation of any diagnosis, then surely it's more detrimental for his well being to be put in the pressure cooker of playing for manchester United is it not?

So all who are jumping on the mental health sympathy bandwagon ask yourselves if it's right for you to be hoping he comes back, because he's fallen off so much he has to be taken away from carrington to be given special isolated training. This after not even coming close to the same level of abuse the likes of Rashford or Maguire recieved, and still to this day the latter recieves on social media, yet is expected to be on top of his game.

If you're going to act all high and mighty, then do it with every player, not this sancho guy who has yet to put in a world class performance in a united shirt since his arrival
 

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It’s not clear whether he has mental health problems or just attitude / mentality issues. However, I’ve suspected for a while that it may be the former. Mental health problems are very common these days, especially with younger people like Sancho. If this is the case, hopefully the club will help him to get through this.
 

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Sounds like Ten Hag throwing Sancho a lifeline, which he either grasps with all his might or gets jettisoned in the summer. Good approach.
Not necessarily. This could be an outgrowth of ten Hag being honest with him and telling him he is going to be moved in the summer. To which he, as a competitor, would ask for help in improving. This entire thing may be him working his own personal value by focusing on his weaknesses knowing he is being phased out.

Anyone can struggle with mental health issues, I have in the past and still struggle going up and down now. People being harsh need to just accept it.
I feel for you that you struggled with them. But just because you did doesn't mean others are also prone to them. Others in fact may be mentally tougher and not require people wringing their hands and worrying about their mental health when there is no issue.

Playing football at this level requires competitive mentality and strength. I think the manager we have in place now is a very good man who addresses that side of things. But that can be executed without ranging into mental health issues. To some extent all players can probably use a shrink to help them see things the best way but that does not mean there is a crisis.

It could be a crisis. Or maybe it isn't. Since we don't know there is no need to start diagnosing.
 

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BREAKING:

Sancho has been sent into the cold secret mountains of can't say village in the Netherlands for some manga level training as ETH very quickly recognised a rare but dormant beast gene which has been suppressed for years by a combination of Sancho's natural joviality and modern society.

The secret order of monks training him have one purpose: peel the onion of comforts away to awaken the beast gene deep within with traditional techniques passed down from before primordial soup even existed.

If successful, he'll return with spiky hair, a gaunt, yet intimidating visage, arms ripped off all his jerseys leaving jagged edges, eyes that occasionally turn red in games, the curious thing being whenever this happens Sancho is only able to speak or understand Japanese
Not funny
 

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Can’t help but feel a story will probably drop so they’ve taken him out of the spotlight. Hope I’m wrong but this is pretty much unheard of.

Pretty sure that his doctors, family, teammates, club doctors etc in England would be a better place for him than in Holland with a couple of random coaches?
 

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I feel sorry for Sancho and I hope he get well soon. I had and still have some serious MH issues which had lately gone worse with the death of a very close relative of mine who was like a father to me. I am still functional but I know how hard it can be even to get up of bed and do your share.
I've heard that one of Sancho's problems may be similar to this. You'd do well to have a bit of empathy.
 

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So every player who doesn't perform, and cries mental health we should molly coddle and keep and pray their symptoms one day disappear?

If he is suffering mental health, which is just speculation so far, since there is confirmation of any diagnosis, then surely it's more detrimental for his well being to be put in the pressure cooker of playing for manchester United is it not?

So all who are jumping on the mental health sympathy bandwagon ask yourselves if it's right for you to be hoping he comes back, because he's fallen off so much he has to be taken away from carrington to be given special isolated training. This after not even coming close to the same level of abuse the likes of Rashford or Maguire recieved, and still to this day the latter recieves on social media, yet is expected to be on top of his game.

If you're going to act all high and mighty, then do it with every player, not this sancho guy who has yet to put in a world class performance in a united shirt since his arrival
So if he had put in world class performances mental health issues would be acceptable? Give your head a wobble.

And I’d suggest not talking about something you clearly have no knowledge off.
 

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Not necessarily. This could be an outgrowth of ten Hag being honest with him and telling him he is going to be moved in the summer. To which he, as a competitor, would ask for help in improving. This entire thing may be him working his own personal value by focusing on his weaknesses knowing he is being phased out.


I feel for you that you struggled with them. But just because you did doesn't mean others are also prone to them. Others in fact may be mentally tougher and not require people wringing their hands and worrying about their mental health when there is no issue.

Playing football at this level requires competitive mentality and strength. I think the manager we have in place now is a very good man who addresses that side of things. But that can be executed without ranging into mental health issues. To some extent all players can probably use a shrink to help them see things the best way but that does not mean there is a crisis.

It could be a crisis. Or maybe it isn't. Since we don't know there is no need to start diagnosing.
Where did I start diagnosing it? I simply said anyone can suffer from them.

And it’s nothing to do with being ‘mentally tougher’, is Tyson Fury mentally soft?
 

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No one in any official capacity has told us that Sancho has mental health issues. If you think he does, you are making an assumption. And then to castigate anyone who doesn't agree with your ASSUMPTION seems childish.
 

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Is a mentality or confidence issue on the pitch the same as a mental health issue?

It's odd to speculate it's the latter when we know he's following a physical training programme and Ten Hag specifies they are 'researching' how to get him back to his best.
 

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Where did I start diagnosing it? I simply said anyone can suffer from them.

And it’s nothing to do with being ‘mentally tougher’, is Tyson Fury mentally soft?
You're telling me to give my head a wobble while trying to compare sancho's situation to Tyson Fury ffs

When has Sancho ever been diagnose with Bi Bipolar or been known to been addicted to recreationally drugs?

Sounds like a lot of people are desperate to project their own MH struggles on to Sancho simply to excuse for not being good enough
 

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No one in any official capacity has told us that Sancho has mental health issues. If you think he does, you are making an assumption. And then to castigate anyone who doesn't agree with your ASSUMPTION seems childish.
Exactly. No where is it quoted that it is mental health issue's. Mentally can also be his attitude.
 

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Where did I start diagnosing it? I simply said anyone can suffer from them.

And it’s nothing to do with being ‘mentally tougher’, is Tyson Fury mentally soft?
There are plenty of diagnoses running around here. Slow the roll on all that is all I'm saying.

Mental toughness can be improved without needing to call it a crisis.
 

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You're telling me to give my head a wobble while trying to compare sancho's situation to Tyson Fury ffs

When has Sancho ever been diagnose with Bi Bipolar or been known to been addicted to recreationally drugs?

Sounds like a lot of people are desperate to project their own MH struggles on to Sancho simply to excuse for not being good enough
Haha I didn’t compare them I ask you a question you fool. Obviously to stupid to read properly.

I have no idea what Sancho’s situation is so maybe you need to chill a bit. Obviously have a major issue with his poor form.

Don‘t bother replying back to me.
 
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