It's much worse than I thought.
My interpretation is that the club sees Kepa as the most important active out of the two and they are trying to protect him.
Sarri being publicly humiliated by Arrizabalaga | Sarri benches Kepa
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
My interpretation is that the club sees Kepa as the most important active out of the two and they are trying to protect him.
You have to respect the chain of command and politely complain indoors. Miserable brat.
By the way, who was captaining Chelsea yesterday? Only Luiz seems to be the one who is doing the talking to Kepa in the whole fiasco. Shouldn't the captain be the one who does majority of talking?
Luiz was captain. He should have ordered him off.
I see. Never knew Luiz was captaining nowadays.
There was no misunderstanding, Sarri is clearly trying to save face. He was put in a horrible situation and argubaly cost Chelsea the shootout. Kepa is a wee rat and if he done that for United I would want him dropped, fined and making a proper apology.
I think this is what happened, too.
He playacted the injury, and Sarri didn't get it. Explains how Sarri calmed down after talking to the medics who must have relayed the message after his meltdown.
Still doesn't excuse the way Kepa lost his shit at the dugout. You shouldn't talk to your manager like that.
With the way Sari defended him after the match, he kind of made it impossible to punish Kepa. If he takes him out of the team or anything, it would be like admitting he lied in his post match press conference.
Didn't the reserve keeper play for City before? The reserve keeper is also much bigger than Kepa. I think Sarri wanted to change it a bit like Holland did with Krul. Kepa spat out the dummy and refused to come off and Luiz should have clipped him round the ear. It was embarrassing and Sarri will likely walk.
Kepa looked injured as well, it wasn't just about pks stats.
Garbage post.
If there was no misunderstanding and Kepa disobeyed his manager, what possible reason would someone like Sarri have to come out and say otherwise? He knows it'll set a bad precedent and undermine his authority if he lamely defends such incidents of player power.
Because it doesn't suit your narrative of drama and outrage?
How do you know for certain what he said isn't the case, and that there was a genuine misunderstanding about playacting an injury? You have no means of ruling it out as a possible scenario.
It is Azpilicueta. For a few years already
Pretty sure he disappeared instantly in order to have a smoke. Given the level of his addiction he must have been jonesing throughout the second half/extra time/Kepa snub/penalties marathon.
Azpilicueta was captain yesterday and agreed, he should have told him to leave the pitch.
Mental scenes. Never even considered that a player could refuse to be substituted and shocked Kepa had the nerve to do it. He should be binned immediately. No manager can possibly succeed if they're undermined so publicly.
Is it? Pretty strange that he wasn't there talking to the coach or the player.
The misunderstanding story clears it all up though. The club has chosen the player over the coach.
The story is a good indication that the club has told Sarri to shut up and continue.......... till they find his replacement.
Yeah he is. It was Terry before him when he played, since then it is him all the time when he plays. I guess he is in the Kepa corner or just couldnt be arsed. He seems to be a honest and hard working professional and quite respected, but i dont know why he couldnt be arsed yesterday
They asked him about it on Sky Sports, he basically played dumb and claimed he was on the other side of the pitch and wasn't aware of any of what was happening.
Caballero is one of the best keepers at saving penalties I've seen. He's conceded 17 penalties from 29 attempts during his career. Kepa has conceded 13 out of 17. And bear in mind that this is not including penalty shoot-outs, and we all remember when Caballero saved three Liverpool penalties in a row in the 2016 final. Add in the psychological edge that he would have brought to Chelsea; I was well and truly worried when I saw he was coming on. Kompany hinted that he was thinking the same as well afterwards. It's impossible to know but my belief is if Caballero came on Chelsea would have won that shoot-out.
If I was Sarri I'd still be fuming. Kepa only has himself to blame by going down injured and receiving treatment. Either he is 100% fit or he's not. Don't piss about letting the medical staff come on if you have nothing wrong with you. The second he receives treatment then he's making the decision for Sarri. The manager would be crazy to let a keeper who is apparently not 100% continue into an important penalty shoot-out when he has a superior keeper at saving penalties sat on the bench. Kepa's immaturity literally cost them a penalty as well, he'd obviously worked out where Aguero was likely to go but was so focused on trying to psych Aguero out and acting a clown that he compromised his focus on actually saving the fecking thing. Made the victory all that sweeter seeing him get his comeuppance.
If I was Sarri I'd still be fuming. Kepa only has himself to blame by going down injured and receiving treatment. Either he is 100% fit or he's not. Don't piss about letting the medical staff come on if you have nothing wrong with you. The second he receives treatment then he's making the decision for Sarri. The manager would be crazy to let a keeper who is apparently not 100% continue into an important penalty shoot-out when he has a superior keeper at saving penalties sat on the bench. Kepa's immaturity literally cost them a penalty as well, he'd obviously worked out where Aguero was likely to go but was so focused on trying to psych Aguero out and acting a clown that he compromised his focus on actually saving the fecking thing. Made the victory all that sweeter seeing him get his comeuppance.
Trying to restore some semblance of continuity and order on a team that has none? There are games when a manager will try and take the heat off his underperforming team by saying things like "I got it wrong," or "I made a selection error." I would say Sarri is smart enough not to effect the price of an asset like Kepa publicly but privately he is going nuts and I would say Kepa will be sold asap.
Yup, the misunderstanding explanation clearly points to Sarri's current standing within the club. For the sake of his reputation he should quit immediately though I suspect he's got people like his agent reminding him that the inevitable firing equals compensation.
I don't see anything gained by doing that. Kepa isn't irreplaceable, especially when you have an experienced replacement in Caballero. In fact, disciplining Kepa would be more beneficial in sending out a message to the rest of the squad,so that Sarri can do a better job for the rest of the season.
All these arguments aside I don't see Sarri as a manager who'll let this slide if it was a player overruling his authority. He's already called out the entire squad once, he won't hesitate to go after one goalkeeper.
Because his boss has ordered him to do so.
The worst interpretation is that Kepa's behaviour is a microcosm of how Sarri has lost the dressing room. For a player to ignore the manager and stay on is something I just haven't seen before.
There is the very real possibility that Sarri wanted to bring Caballero on for Kepa, as Cabellero has such a good record as a penalty saver.
At the very best Kepa was feigning injury, thought he was going to be taken off for said injury, and therefore thought he was justified in staying on. Sarri's reaction would indicate this wasn't the case.
Either way it's shambolic.
Only way forward is for Kepa to come out and apologise.......but (and I apologise for this)........'Sarri seems to be the hardest word'.
There is the very real possibility that Sarri wanted to bring Caballero on for Kepa, as Cabellero has such a good record as a penalty saver.
At the very best Kepa was feigning injury, thought he was going to be taken off for said injury, and therefore thought he was justified in staying on. Sarri's reaction would indicate this wasn't the case.
Either way it's shambolic.
Only way forward is for Kepa to come out and apologise.......but (and I apologise for this)........'Sarri seems to be the hardest word'.
Did you miss the part where Sarri was incandescent with rage, waving his arms around at everyone around him and (almost)stormed out of the stadium. Even Zola was gesticulating at Kepa. Moss went and spoke to Kepa and then back to the Sarri, if it was a misunderstanding then it would've been cleared then and Sarri would've settled down calmly after that. Caballero was obviously a penalty specialist substitute, there's no way to excuse Kepa's behavior. Its not even as if he's done anything to develop the ego that he evidently has.
Again, just look at Sarri's anger and you will understand straight away this has nothing to do with injuries from Kepa. You don't get mad that much because the keeper tells you he's actually "fine".
No, because it was objectively garbage. Starting with the thing about "worshiping authority".
Your point is entirely hollow because no player at Spurs - Kane the least of all - would even remotely think of refusing to leave the pitch when subbed. Why? Two reasons: Pochettino has total authority over the squad + any player at Spurs who displayed any type of player-power ego has long since been culled by Pochettino.
If the club hierarchy at Spurs ever backed player-power over Pochettino then the latter was resign immediately. And if Kane was the hypothetical player in question then I've no doubt Levy would choose Pochettino over Kane …. because the manager is - and has to be - the more important figure, doubly so when that manager is Pochettino.
PS. Chelsea's decline is plain to see. You used to be a perennial top 4 club (at the least), now you've finished outside the top 4 for two of the last three seasons and are in dog-fight to avoid doing the same this season.
On top of this, your new stadium project has stalled, your owner lives in semi-exile, you're facing a 2 season transfer ban and the player-power circus is getting even worse.
Agreed, what is that story about worshiping authority? Since when do we live in anarchy? In this case, just don't care about your parents, your wife, your kids, any body, f** authority after all, it's useless according to some, and certainly not useful to run an organization.
And I don't mean to see the world in black or white certainly but that was another level. If you want to have a more "relaxed" authority, you need to show you're worth it, not just by your tag price / salary but what actually is meaningful to your employer, in this case, your club. It means performing at this highest level for multiple years. Then you will see how the "authority" will trust you more to perform and let you be.
You're telling me we just need to convince Kane to sulk a bit and it's a done deal? And Levi won't do a Levi but back his manager no matter what? I want to see that! Either way, it's going to be a win for United then!
PS: Wait, how are you back after your defeat?
We dont know what Sarri has said or done in private.
As we have seen time and again, players dont react well to publicly being dressed down, so maybe Sarri has fined him etc. It will be interesting to see who starts the next game.
If someone could find out whether or not Sarri calmed down after the medics who attended to Kepa came back to the dugout and talked to him, it would be great. That'll help me make up my mind.
I believe he would, without a shadow of a doubt. Sure, the team weakens, but weakens less than players having freedom to do whatever the feck they want.
Mancini put Tevez out of the squad while City was in a title race. And that was for him refusing to enter the pitch in the dying minutes of a game. Croatia expelled from the team during the World Cup (when you cannot replace players) a player for refusing to do so. Refusing to leave the pitch is an even worse thing to do, so any self-respecting manager would bench for at least a few weeks that player, regardless of circumstances.
Heck, we have seen Cristiano Ronaldo (one of the greatest players ever) sulking while he was getting subbed (under both SAF and Ancelotti), and then getting subbed again. For a player who has done nothing of note like Kepa to do so, it is totally unjustifiable.
This right here where Chelsea is saying they are not doing anything to Kepa is the core issue. They have already sided with players, which respectable club does that?
And don't compare that with being sad or anything from Pogba, this is another level.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...unish-Kepa-Arrizabalaga-substitution-row.html
I think Chelsea is becoming a joke of a club and I wish them the worst. Players are well paid but that does not mean that they can forget who is the hand that feeds them. Kepa is no Ronaldo and yet, he dares do that? It's a disgrace for all the clubs and players in the professional world, and the fans as well.
Exactly. Incredible that some defend his behaviour.
Then panicked and drafted him back in as soon as United got the upper hand in the race.
Almost any club in the world.
Rightly or wrongly the financial aspect is a huge player in the game these days and demoting a £70m keeper is such financial suicide not even PSG would do it, not to mention the fact Caballero is bang average unless he's facing a penalty and would get slaughtered by half decent opposition.
The worst we can do realistically is bench him for a few games, a move that could end up derailing our season to the point of no return.
Roy Keane wouldn't have stood for whatever this thread is about.