I know that but of the two Herrera is the more defensive. SMS is someone I’ve kept tabs on this year so I’m more familiar with his overall game.SMS can defend also. He is a ball winner and can carry it too.
combination of poor world cup, lacklustre season just gone and the fact his career stats don't live up to the hype but he was midfielder of the year last season so............All regular Serie A watchers thinks this guy is a very good player. Most caf posters who watched a few games of his from World Cup insist that he is shit. Who should I believe in?
Lacklustre season? Is that your opinion because if so you clearly haven’t seen much of him this year.combination of poor world cup, lacklustre season just gone and the fact his career stats don't live up to the hype but he was midfielder of the year last season so............
We never even turned on the ignition on the Bruno "deal".Seeing as we put the brakes on a Bruno deal, this one looks like a goer if Pogba leaves.
Is this one dependent upon Pogba leaving, and not a partner for him..?Seeing as we put the brakes on a Bruno deal, this one looks like a goer if Pogba leaves.
i dont see them together, no. Our midfield would get overrun, since both are stronger going forward than defensively. They can put a shift in, but once we lose the ball going forward, we'd be open to get picked apartIs this one dependent upon Pogba leaving, and not a partner for him..?
Milenkovic is very good defensively. With a DM they’d be fine and would probably work well together.i dont see them together, no. Our midfield would get overrun, since both are stronger going forward than defensively. They can put a shift in, but once we lose the ball going forward, we'd be open to get picked apart
We dont have that DM. Pogba and Savic in midfield together would be easy to play against offensively. We would get picked apart by any half decent technical team. They of course have their offensive qualities, but we arent that dominant to have them both together with our lack of options at DM and no new CB.Milenkovic is very good defensively. With a DM they’d be fine and would probably work well together.
maybe I didn't articulate myself properly. I stated he won midfielder of the year as an individual so it is more of his individual numbers Goals etc, paled in comparison to his previous years, so to those who do not watch Serie A, will have an opinion that he isn't doing bits, when in fact he was voted Midfielder of the year so must've played well at leastLacklustre season? Is that your opinion because if so you clearly haven’t seen much of him this year.
Yes imo. Pogba can only really function at his best with two defensively good CMs and Savic is not that.Is this one dependent upon Pogba leaving, and not a partner for him..?
He gets far less effective the deeper in midfield he goes. Think of him as a more technical version of FellainiMilenkovic is very good defensively. With a DM they’d be fine and would probably work well together.
That could explain why Pogba is seemingly happy to be on our tour, if he already knows that the deal to Real Madrid will happen.Yes imo. Pogba can only really function at his best with two defensively good CMs and Savic is not that.
Yeah that's what I was thinking.That could explain why Pogba is seemingly happy to be on our tour, if he already knows that the deal to Real Madrid will happen.
United would presumably be about £80m in credit by trading places of Pogba for SMS....and we would still need 2 MFs, although I think that Ole is now hinting that McT is the Herrera replacement.
Never going to happen. He wont move to a top club anytime soon.Strange most people really seem to want Fernandes and most posters seem to think SMS is actually pretty poor. I would maybe wrongly expect most UK fans havent watched a lot of either, I know I havent.
Does appear the people who have watched him most seem to really like him. Only really seen him in the world cup and 2/3 games and was pretty underwhelmed but then again Hamsik years ago was rubbish in Euros and he was a very good player, so cant form any judgements.
I do think we should be selling Pogba and replacing him though.....for me, replacing with 2 players with the type of fee we should be expecting. Would like a central midfielder and I think almost as importantly an anchor man too, and definately think Ascacibar would be ideal there
Well nobody seems to have been linked with him for quite a while now, which surprises me and agree not going to happen as we seem to never have been linked.Never going to happen. He wont move to a top club anytime soon.
Besides that, so many on here would turn on him for being Argie and spitting. He needs a good season next year to put himself on the map again. Looks like he will stay for the moment
I dont really know either of them enough to agree or disagree....but regardless, dont know if there was genuine interest from us or from him to come here without CL football, but NDombele seemed ideal, different player but seemed to perfect replacement for Pogba to me.Really don't want either of SMS or Fernandes. Both will another one in our long list of purchases who are nowhere near the level we aspire to be.
Hope so tooPogba is starting the game today so he’s not going anywhere
Hopefully if Savic comes, it is to play with Paul
Who would you rather have?Really don't want either of SMS or Fernandes. Both will another one in our long list of purchases who are nowhere near the level we aspire to be.
I find this whole issue strange. Pogba has played a part in all these games whereas Lukaku hasn't. I don't believe at all that Lukaku is so injured he couldn't have taken any part. It's more a case of they know they are selling him and don't want him getting injured, we've seen some of the crazy tackles in preseason games involving other teams. Considering Pogba would be our biggest sell price, they haven't felt the need to shield him. That could be taken as he's going nowhere, why risk an injury and all that. Could also be seen as showcasing his ability to Real one last time, although do teams really take notice of preseason friendly games form, hard to say. I think he still goes, I think it all hinges on what happens with Bale at Real. They seemed confident the other day that he'd be on his way, that's easier said than done considering his wages as we've seen with Sanchez.Pogba is starting the game today so he’s not going anywhere
Hopefully if Savic comes, it is to play with Paul
Is Gazzetta Dello Sport reliable or the Italian version of The Sun?Gazzetta dello Sport just reporting, deal done for 80 ml euros.
bargain.
Make a good point as I'm not convinced Rom is injured too.I find this whole issue strange. Pogba has played a part in all these games whereas Lukaku hasn't. I don't believe at all that Lukaku is so injured he couldn't have taken any part. It's more a case of they know they are selling him and don't want him getting injured, we've seen some of the crazy tackles in preseason games involving other teams. Considering Pogba would be our biggest sell price, they haven't felt the need to shield him. That could be taken as he's going nowhere, why risk an injury and all that. Could also be seen as showcasing his ability to Real one last time, although do teams really take notice of preseason friendly games form, hard to say. I think he still goes, I think it all hinges on what happens with Bale at Real. They seemed confident the other day that he'd be on his way, that's easier said than done considering his wages as we've seen with Sanchez.
That could explain why Pogba is seemingly happy to be on our tour, if he already knows that the deal to Real Madrid will happen.
United would presumably be about £80m in credit by trading places of Pogba for SMS....and we would still need 2 MFs, although I think that Ole is now hinting that McT is the Herrera replacement.
another itk...This is happening guys
We have McTominay and Matic who are more than capable defensively. Plus in a pressing team there isn’t one DM that does all the work. I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one but I do feel we need a better CB partner to solidify us more so than a DM.We dont have that DM. Pogba and Savic in midfield together would be easy to play against offensively. We would get picked apart by any half decent technical team. They of course have their offensive qualities, but we arent that dominant to have them both together with our lack of options at DM and no new CB.
Fair enough. Stats wise it wasn’t his best but performance wise he’s been really good and consistent. Again having tracked him this year he’s one of the few CMs I’d be happy with at United right character etc whereas someone like Longstaff I don’t think is going to cut it.maybe I didn't articulate myself properly. I stated he won midfielder of the year as an individual so it is more of his individual numbers Goals etc, paled in comparison to his previous years, so to those who do not watch Serie A, will have an opinion that he isn't doing bits, when in fact he was voted Midfielder of the year so must've played well at least
Yes that’s true but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t do his defensive duties? Nobody in their right mind would play him at DM but between him Pogba and a Matic/McTominay we’d have more than enough defensively. I think it’s unfair to say he’s a technical Fellaini. Why because he’s tall and physical? Beyond that they are very different he dribbles, Fellaini didn’t, he can pass, Fellaini couldn’t I think it’s a bit derisory to compare the two and I liked Fellaini.He gets far less effective the deeper in midfield he goes. Think of him as a more technical version of Fellaini
I do wonder who criticising SMS have seen him play often enough to form an opinion. I like the things I hear about Fernandes but I know I like what SMS can do.Strange most people really seem to want Fernandes and most posters seem to think SMS is actually pretty poor. I would maybe wrongly expect most UK fans havent watched a lot of either, I know I havent.
Does appear the people who have watched him most seem to really like him. Only really seen him in the world cup and 2/3 games and was pretty underwhelmed but then again Hamsik years ago was rubbish in Euros and he was a very good player, so cant form any judgements.
I do think we should be selling Pogba and replacing him though.....for me, replacing with 2 players with the type of fee we should be expecting. Would like a central midfielder and I think almost as importantly an anchor man too, and definately think Ascacibar would be ideal there
