Sky Sports Power Rankings 2020 - Bruno 4th

[Dante]

Rank	Name	Club	Points
1​	Lionel Messi	Barcelona	111,608​
2​	Robert Lewandowski	Bayern Munich	106,703​
3​	Cristiano Ronaldo	Juventus	90,450​
4​	Bruno Fernandes	Man Utd	87,998​
5​	Romelu Lukaku	Inter Milan	84,329​
6​	Thomas Muller	Bayern Munich	83,052​
7​	Mohamed Salah	Liverpool	80,932​
8​	Erling Braut Haaland	B Dortmund	76,239​
9​	Karim Benzema	Real Madrid	72,817​
10​	Ciro Immobile	Lazio	72,225​
11​	Kevin De Bruyne	Man City	71,891​
12​	Joshua Kimmich	Bayern Munich	71,135​
13​	Serge Gnabry	Bayern Munich	69,957​
14​	Alejandro Gomez	Atalanta	69,055​
15​	Heung-Min Son	Tottenham	67,633​
16​	Sadio Mane	Liverpool	67,515​
17​	Theo Hernandez	AC Milan	66,556​
18​	Duvan Zapata	Atalanta	66,463​
19​	Sergej Milinkovic-Savic	Lazio	66,180​
20​	Manuel Neuer	Bayern Munich	66,012​
21​	Mikel Merino	Real Sociedad	65,754​
22​	Kylian Mbappe	PSG	65,574​
23​	Kai Havertz	Chelsea	65,350​
24​	Henrikh Mkhitaryan	Roma	64,365​
25​	Hakan Calhanoglu	AC Milan	64,334​
26​	Harry Maguire	Man Utd	63,695​
27​	Rodrigo de Paul	Udinese	63,217​
28​	Carlos Casemiro	Real Madrid	63,112​
29​	Marcus Rashford	Man Utd	62,757​
30​	Jack Grealish	Aston Villa	62,432​

https://www.skysports.com/football/...-ahead-of-bruno-fernandes-in-europes-hot-list

Bruno 4th. Maguire the top rated central defender of the year. Rashford also in the top 30.

 

[tenpoless]

Lukaku is 5th? ahead of Salah? wat.

 

[Berbaclass]

No Harry Kane but Lukaku is 5th

 

[Dante]

No Harry Kane but Lukaku is 5th

Harry Kane is 32nd, if you check the link.

The list is entirely based on statistics for the 12 months:

The rankings award points for 35 matchday stats and we've factored cumulative totals collected in the Premier League, Serie A, La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Champions League and Europa League since the turn of the year.

 

[GhastlyHun]

No Harry Kane but Lukaku is 5th

Not "no" Kane, he is number 32.
I guess they forgot to apply the PL supreme superiority factor.

 

[Berbaclass]

Harry Kane is 32nd, if you check the link.

The list is entirely based on statistics for the 12 months:

The point being he should absolutely be in the top 30 for this season alone. 9 goals and 10 assists in 15 games. Plus 7 goals after the restart. Son has very similar numbers despite playing more due to Kanes injury at the start of the year and he's ranked number 15.

Rashford missed a chunk of games, Like Kane and he made the list with inferior numbers.

 

[Dante]

The point being he should absolutely be in the top 30 for this season alone. 9 goals and 10 assists in 15 games. Plus 7 goals after the restart. Son has very similar numbers despite playing more due to Kanes injury at the start of the year and he's ranked number 15.

Rashford missed a chunk of games, Like Kane and he made the list with inferior numbers.

It includes games in European competitions.

 

[Berbaclass]

Not "no" Kane, he is number 32.
I guess they forgot to apply the PL supreme superiority factor.

Must have applied it to the Bundesliga instead. Havertz number 23

 

[Berbaclass]

It includes games in European competitions.

I'm aware. Kane has scored pretty consistently in the Europa League this season too.

 

[Dante]

I'm aware. Kane has scored pretty consistently in the Europa League this season too.

1 goal.

The points totals also include things like tackles, clearances and interceptions.

 

[Berbaclass]

1 goal.

The points totals also include things like tackles, clearances and interceptions.

Qualifying not count?

That’s just stupid though. Applying that criteria to strikers. Kane has arguably been the best player in the league this season and finished off last season very strongly. It’s a very questionable list.

 

[RashyForPM]

Yeah about right. Bruno was the 4th best player of 2020. I think he’s the only one bar the big three and the French league lads to have more goal contributions than games. Brilliant.

On a side note though, was Lukaku right?

 

[Dante]

Qualifying not count?

Obviously not. It's qualifying for an official competition, not the competition itself.

In calendar year 2020, Rashford has 18 goals and 12 assists across the PL and Europe, whilst Kane has 17 goals and 12 assists.

But of those, Rashford has 6 in the CL, 1 in the EL. Whereas Kane only has 1 in the EL.

If you want to start including EL qualifiers, why not domestic cup competitions (not included in the rankings calculations)? Rashford has 5 goals and 2 assists. Kane has 1 and 0.

 

[Dante]

Yeah about right. Bruno was the 4th best player of 2020. I think he’s the only one bar the big three and the French league lads to have more goal contributions than games. Brilliant.

On a side note though, was Lukaku right?

He has 26 goals and 4 assists this calendar year. It was a decent return considering the long lockdown break.

 

[Berbaclass]

Obviously not. It's qualifying for an official competition, not the competition itself.

In calendar year 2020, Rashford has 18 goals and 12 assists across the PL and Europe, whilst Kane has 17 goals and 12 assists.

But of those, Rashford has 6 in the CL, 1 in the EL. Whereas Kane only has 1 in the EL.

If you want to start including EL qualifiers, why not domestic cup competitions? Rashford has 5 goals and 2 assist. Kane has 1 and 0.

However way you want to look at it Kane deserves to be much higher. His goals and assists are great and so is his overall team play. The fact Havertz is number 23 on that list makes it irrelevant.

 

[Dante]

However way you want to look at it Kane deserves to be much higher. His goals and assists are great and so is his overall team play. The fact Havertz is number 23 on that list makes it irrelevant.

This isn't a table decided by hype. It's the result of plugging numbers into a spreadsheet. Nothing more than an unbiased statistical retrospective of the year.

Your alternative appears to be deciding places according to a player's reputation. That's every bit as irrelevant.

 

[RashyForPM]

He has 26 goals and 4 assists this calendar year. It was a decent return considering the long lockdown break.

I’m actually a fan of Lukaku (well, not his billy big bollocks attitude in the media) and those stats are very good, but was he really the 5th best player in the world last year. Muller, Kimmich, Salah, KdB etc were all better than him imo. I know this is stats based but even so, he can’t be the 5th best player in the world.

 

[Berbaclass]

This isn't a table decided by hype. It's the result of plugging numbers into a spreadsheet. Nothing more than an unbiased statistical retrospective of the year.

Your alternative appears to be deciding places according to a player's reputation. That's every bit as irrelevant.

What a load of garbage

The spreadsheet is flawed.

 

[Dante]

What a load of garbage

The spreadsheet is flawed.

What is?

Rashford outscored Kane. What's flawed about that?

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

1 goal.

The points totals also include things like tackles, clearances and interceptions.

and presumably own goals, blocking your own players headers and ability to point.

 

[Dante]

and presumably own goals, blocking your own players headers and ability to point.

 

[Berbaclass]

What is?

Your assertion that I'm "basing my opinion on hype rather than statistics" you've just made that up because I don't agree with you.

It's truly laughable. I'm not sure why you are getting so defensive about this, It's like you made the spreadsheet yourself.

Things like this are never totally accurate because of the amount of variables involved in a game like football. Kanes omission from the top 30 is a glaring omission.

 

[Dante]

Your assertion that I'm "basing my opinion on hype rather than statistics" you've just made that up because I don't agree with you.

It's truly laughable. I'm not sure why you are getting so defensive about this, It's like you made the spreadsheet yourself.

Things like this are never totally accurate because of the amount of variables involved in a game like football. Kanes omission from the top 30 is a glaring omission.

It's a quantitive table not a qualitative one. There's room for both in the world. But on the purely statistical level, Rashford outperformed Kane. So did 30 other people. Deal with it.

 

[Berbaclass]

It's a quantitive table not a qualitative one. There's room for both in the world. But on the purely statistical level, Rashford outperformed Kane. So did 30 other people. Deal with it.

Rashford is also too low. You deal with it, stop being pathetic

 

[Dante]

Rashford is also too low. You deal with it, stop being pathetic

Some lists are based on feelings and intuitions. Some are based on pure statistics. This is the latter.

You're arguing against numbers.

 

[Berbaclass]

Some lists are based on feelings and intuitions. Some are based on pure statistics. This is the latter.

You're arguing against numbers.

PL+CL/EL since January 1st 2020

Rashford - 32 games 18 goals 10 assists.
Kane - 28 games 17 goals 12 assists.

Tell me again how Rashford outperformed Kane?

 

[Andy_Cole]

Mkhitaryan 24. Honestly haven’t heard him mentioned since leaving Arsenal. Glad he’s doing well. United actually have 2 ex players there interestingly.

 

[hasanejaz88]

Not surprising to see no defenders at the top in the list given that it's bad purely on stats, which will favor attackers, Neuer being low at 20 as well.

 

[Korwas]

Lukaku is 5th? ahead of Salah? wat.

No Harry Kane but Lukaku is 5th

Most goals all competitions 2020
Lewandowski 47
Ronaldo 44
Lukaku 40
Haaland 39
Immobile 34
Mbappe 29
Messi 27
Salah 26
Fernandes 26
Weghorst 24
Andre Silva 24
Kane 23
Benzema 23
Zlatan 22
Heung-min Son 22

Only Lewandowski and Ronaldo outscored Lukaku in 2020 so if this list is stats based it makes sense to have Lukaku higher.

 

[Berbaclass]

Most goals all competitions 2020
Lewandowski 47
Ronaldo 44
Lukaku 40
Haaland 39
Immobile 34
Mbappe 29
Messi 27
Salah 26
Fernandes 26
Weghorst 24
Andre Silva 24
Kane 23
Benzema 23
Zlatan 22
Heung-min Son 22

Only Lewandowski and Ronaldo outscored Lukaku in 2020 so if this list is stats based it makes sense to have Lukaku higher.

I don’t mind that Lukaku is on the list or is that high. I just think Kane should be higher based on his exploits.

 

[Dante]

I don’t mind that Lukaku is on the list or is that high. I just think Kane should be higher based on his exploits.

Based on your feelings rather than reality.

Here's the methodology. The ranking are based on unbiased numbers.

 

[Berbaclass]

Based on your feelings rather than reality.

Here's the methodology. The ranking are based on unbiased numbers.

Ahh you've piped up again. I saw you deleted your post after you realised the stats you we're talking about you must have made up

 

[Falcow]

Not "no" Kane, he is number 32.
I guess they forgot to apply the PL supreme superiority factor.

Well to be fair, I think there is merit in the PL superiority factor. It is more difficult to amass these power ranking points in the PL than it is in Seria A playing against the likes of Spezia and Crotone, Lukaku being the perfect example, Mkhitaryan being another.

Same also applies to Spain and Germany where the bottom 10 teams are basically Championship level or worse.

 

[Falcow]

What is interesting is how far Bruno is ahead of every other PL player apart from Salah.

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Most goals all competitions 2020
Lewandowski 47
Ronaldo 44
Lukaku 40
Haaland 39
Immobile 34
Mbappe 29
Messi 27
Salah 26
Fernandes 26
Weghorst 24
Andre Silva 24
Kane 23
Benzema 23
Zlatan 22
Heung-min Son 22

Only Lewandowski and Ronaldo outscored Lukaku in 2020 so if this list is stats based it makes sense to have Lukaku higher.

the two strikers I wouldn’t want to see at United are Lukaku and immobile. Goals don’t tell the whole story.

 

[Infra-red]

We also have Martial (#56) and AWB (#70) in the top 100.

Sancho down at #61.

 

[Infra-red]

What is interesting is how far Bruno is ahead of every other PL player apart from Salah.

Probably fair to say that he's been comfortably the best player in the Premier League in the calendar year 2020 (although I'd probably say De Bruyne was the best player in the league over the 2019/20 season as a whole).

 

[Oranges038]

Most goals all competitions 2020
Lewandowski 47
Ronaldo 44
Lukaku 40
Haaland 39
Immobile 34
Mbappe 29
Messi 27
Salah 26
Fernandes 26
Weghorst 24
Andre Silva 24
Kane 23
Benzema 23
Zlatan 22
Heung-min Son 22

Only Lewandowski and Ronaldo outscored Lukaku in 2020 so if this list is stats based it makes sense to have Lukaku higher.

Your forgetting to subtract Ronaldo's penalties, they dont count, or did you not know? I wonder if SKY excluded the penalties like others try to do when using Ronaldo's goals.

Based on your feelings rather than reality.

Here's the methodology. The ranking are based on unbiased numbers.

Unbiased seems a bit of stretch.

I'd like to know how they came up with the points scoring system. This seems too heavily weighted towards attackers and goals scorers to be a fair reflection on player performance.

A Gk save should have a higher points ranking 370 compared to 1600 for a goal scored and -600 for a goal conceded. But an error leading to a goal is -2000. 1200 for a gk clean sheet and only 400 for the defence. A Gk gets +500 for a game won but -100 for a game lost.

They vary most points but everyone gets -1000 for conceding a penalty. Everyone gets the same points for possession won, a defender winning the ball should count for more than an attacking player doing so, like they have done with interceptions.

Load of nonsense if you ask me, arbitrarily assigning numbers to different facets of a game with so many variables to come up with a list based off those numbers has no more merit than me or any one else making a list of who we think are the best players.

 

[United58]

I'm assuming Maguire makes it because of the amount of minutes he's played?

 

[Berbaclass]

I'm assuming Maguire makes it because of the amount of minutes he's played?

Must be because according to that he's the best CB in the world in 2020.

Stats don't lie though do they...