When was Schnellinger peak and how are his performances at 66 WC rated? Only third game in the tournament but im not that impressed with him....
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I would say 1962, and than a steady regress until 1965/66, I'd say that his peak was before he joined Milan
But he was still quality afterwards, even in 1970
I remember watching the 68-69 CL semi when we played Milan and Best rinsed KHS a few times that game, though of course that was close to a peak Best against an ageing KHS. No idea how we lost that game after creating a plethora of chances, our finishing was abysmal.
Nice one mate. Is it abnormal to find yourself celebrating a goal that was scored decades ago? Just a mild shaking of the fist for Seeler's goal here as I didn't know if he was going to end up on the scoresheet after a typically industrious performance, but a few days ago I was watching the video below and I ended up getting properly worked up when Cantona scored, despite having watched it live and seen it many, many times since 
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thats a great thing with footballia, if you dont know result in advance there is no info there so you can pretty much watch a game in complete ignorance which is fantastic, cant say i celebrated like yourself but was happy for Uwe(now reading this thats even more bizarre), in that Germany team you can see how him and Kaiser where few decades ahead of everyone else in terms of understanding the game so its always nice to see him have some personal joy after you watch his 90 minute masterclass in team work and work rate.When is the next game?
The story of Rivellino playing on the left as Zagallo wanted to fit both him and Pele in the same lineup is well established.
But Rivellino's role in 1970 and especially beyond is a bit misunderstood.
Some feel he was not a natural left winger even though his cross from the left lead to Pele scoring the opening goal in 1974 final.
Some feel he was a number 10 (which he was for his club side) and not suited to deeper role. His defensive contribution and deep lying role is hardly documented unless you have avidly watched his videos.
In my opinion he was well suited to everyone of these roles as and when the team required.
Probably one of the few legends who had to be tweaked into teams to fit him in and never had a designated role say players like Pele/Tostao/Garrincha/Jairzinho/Zico etc had
His 1970 story of being the final piece in the puzzle might be known to most with Pele himself admitting it was because of his rearrangement they won the world cup so easily in the knockouts.
But what after 1970 is something I have not seen or heard a lot about.
Below is an interesting excerpt from the book : The Country of Football: Soccer and the Making of Modern Brazil
Firstly, it obviously shows the tactical master Zagallo was, especially with the details and player roles, but also explains what was expected of Rivellino apart from his obvious offensive traits.
But Rivellino's role in 1970 and especially beyond is a bit misunderstood.
Some feel he was not a natural left winger even though his cross from the left lead to Pele scoring the opening goal in 1974 final.
Some feel he was a number 10 (which he was for his club side) and not suited to deeper role. His defensive contribution and deep lying role is hardly documented unless you have avidly watched his videos.
In my opinion he was well suited to everyone of these roles as and when the team required.
Probably one of the few legends who had to be tweaked into teams to fit him in and never had a designated role say players like Pele/Tostao/Garrincha/Jairzinho/Zico etc had
His 1970 story of being the final piece in the puzzle might be known to most with Pele himself admitting it was because of his rearrangement they won the world cup so easily in the knockouts.
But what after 1970 is something I have not seen or heard a lot about.
Below is an interesting excerpt from the book : The Country of Football: Soccer and the Making of Modern Brazil
Firstly, it obviously shows the tactical master Zagallo was, especially with the details and player roles, but also explains what was expected of Rivellino apart from his obvious offensive traits.
The last semi-final between Gio and Invictus will take place on Wednesday
Let's get this done lads. Has dragged a bit.
well that's just ridiculous, he doesn't even block Krol from memory.
Indeed. How he put together that front four is incrediblewell that's just ridiculous, he doesn't even block Krol from memory.
Nah, I needed a LB.
Indeed you do. Just thought you may think Invictus not having Diego was more important
Unstoppable force meets easily movable object
yeah indeed. 3 blocks would make sense even with an underwhelming LB.
Either way I'd lose.
And that's a pretty shitty way to block someone especially as I have no need of Maradona myself.
Yeah, indeed. Probably 4-2-2-2 with Maradona in the place of Socrates, but you'd still need Brehme and would be sub optimal set up.
Nah, I doubt Maradona would be too thrilled about the sidekick role, something that Socrates accepted without blinking twice.
"Zico was the king. He was much better than everyone else. When there is a king, the rest fight to be close to the king. When there is no king, everybody loses direction. Society is like that. So it was Zico who should lead. It was Machiavellian, but I was the prince and Zico the king." - Socrates.
That is an awesome quote
im probably the only one that thinks invi ruined his team....
I agree.
Stop blaming him for building that juggernaut. He is only trying to save me some honour.
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Yeah, as I said sub optimal. Would be the same with Cruyff, Platini, Pele etc.. Although Pele is probably the one that could make it work.
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Ruud Krol
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UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: 1976
European Defender of the Year (2): 1978, 1979
FIFA XI: 1979
Ballon d'Or – third place: 1979
Guerin d'Oro (Serie A Footballer of the Year): 1981
Danny McGrain
Scottish Football Writers' Player of the Year: 1976–77
Scotland national football team roll of honour: 1981
Lothar Matthäus
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: 1988
FIFA World Cup Silver Ball: 1990
FIFA World Cup All-Star Team: 1990
Onze d'Or: 1990
Footballer of the Year in Germany: 1990, 1999
Goal of the Year in Germany: 1990, 1992
World Soccer Awards Player of the Year: 1990
IFFHS World’s Best Player: 1990
Bravo Otto – Bronze award: 1990
Ballon d'Or: 1990
FIFA World Player of the Year: 1991
FIFA XI: 1996, 1997, 2001
FIFA 100
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French Player of the Year: 1984
Onze d'Argent: 1984
Ballon d'Or – Runner-up: 1984
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 1984
FIFA World Cup All-Star Team: 1986
Onze de Bronze: 1987
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UEFA Euro Top Scorer: 1968
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: 1968, 1976
Ballon d'Or (3rd place): 1968
Golden Badge: 1969
World Soccer World XI: 1969
Best Sportsman of SD Crvena Zvezda: 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970
YU-Serbian UEFA Golden Player: 2004
FIFA XI: 1968
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Ballon d'Or: 1968; Third place 1971
Football League 100 Legends: 1983
Inaugural inductee into the English Football Hall of Fame: 2002
UEFA Jubilee Awards – Northern Ireland's Golden Player: 2003
FIFA 100
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Great stuff mate. That one-two with Beckenbauer for Beckenbauer's goal. If that doesn't warrant a mild celebration 51 years later I don't what does commentator when Uwe scored and some fat boy jumped on the pitch: "thats not a schoolboy thats a grown man over there"
commentator when Uwe scored and some fat boy jumped on the pitch: "thats not a schoolboy thats a grown man over there"
Aye that was great. Fantastic outfit the guy was wearing too!lederhosen!
But nothing beats old games, modern football is total crap in comparison. You get to watch some genius in action as you choose the games, get to see proper football and not this no contact shit they play today + there are so many random scenes where you laugh more then on the good episode of Fools and Horses which is IMO comfortably best comedy show ever.
Tactics sent, please start whenever you are ready @Invictus @Physiocrat