Good stuff mate. Friday it is!
Tactical Draft
- Thread starter Šjor Bepo
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Yeah, fantastic player, we considered fielding him for both rounds tbh. Like Borussia itself by Bayern, he got outshined by Müller in an all-time context, despite being incredibly prolific and quite versatile forwardCheers mate. It did feel underwhelming going for a fecking 11th pick in the original drafting, but I rate him very highly, and I'm basically just changing things around each match for fun now.
Meh, you don't just suddenly change your winning strategy.
Aye, we desperately tried to fit him in but didn't manage to. Really looking forward to see how you utilise him
@Enigma_87 bro, I'll do a write-up tomorrow and then we'll do the game whenever you want
Great mate, maybe Monday then?@Enigma_87 bro, I'll do a write-up tomorrow and then we'll do the game whenever you want
Sounds good. Monday it is thenGreat mate, maybe Monday then?
Great, best of luck mateSounds good. Monday it is then
Aye, his ability to play all across the front line really appealed to me here.
I wasn't entirely sure I was going to start with him (was considering just going with my team from the first round + Cabrini), but that's settled it
. I'm honestly not sure how he'll be perceived in this set up but it'll be interesting to tease out a bit more about him in the match thread.
He doesn't have the right to write more than 6 sentencesGreat mate, maybe Monday then?
per game so it won't be time-consuming so PLAY TONIGHT!!!! There might be some ghost writer in the mix thoHe doesn't have the right to write more than 6 sentences
Is our match going ahead today @Šjor Bepo ?
Nah, you are in the final already.
I'm sending something over shortly! My fault mate, got delayed.
This is entirely unacceptable and I applaud Sjor's decision to award me the win
no point of deadlines if we dont stick by them.This is entirely unacceptable and I applaud Sjor's decision to award me the win
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@Pat_Mustard @Šjor Bepo
and since the 10am deadline was never specified which time zone....i still have an hour and a half to spare
@Pat_Mustard @Šjor Bepo
and since the 10am deadline was never specified which time zone....i still have an hour and a half to spare
caf timesubmitted
@Pat_Mustard @Šjor Bepo
and since the 10am deadline was never specified which time zone....i still have an hour and a half to spare
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@Pat_Mustard @Šjor Bepo
and since the 10am deadline was never specified which time zone....i still have an hour and a half to spare
Well played! Skizzo unmasked:
Team Sheets before Final
TEAMS THROUGH:
9. P-nut/Enigma (S. Mazzola) 1. M. Coluna 2. V. Vasović 3. G. Signori 4. J. Verón 5. Gerets 6. T. Courtois 7. C. Vieri 8. C. Puyol 9. W. Samuel 10. Ze Roberto 11. C. Azpilicueta 12. X.Alonso 13. K-H Förster 14. B. Robson
10. Skizzo (G Rivera) 1. G. Lato 2. R. Gadocha 3. R. Van Persie 4. M. Tresor 5. Jennings 6. M. Bossis 7. W. Jansen 8. M. Tassotti 9. T. Adams 10. D. Albelda 11. B. Auld 12. N. Vidic 13. Clodoaldo 14. M. Amoros
Reinforcement Pool:
1. EAP (E. Francescoli) 1. T Müller 2. L. Junior 3. R. Donadoni 4. Gentile5. Montero 6. Hellstrom 7. A. Bennarrivo 8. A. Picchi 9. N. Stiles 10. Andy Cole 11. D. Albertini 12. Eder 13. E. Cambiasso
2. Harms/Joga (P. Elkjær) 2. H. Schumacher 3. K. Deyna 4. M. Kaltz 5. P. Vierchowod 6. A. Demyanenko 7.H-G Schwarzenbeck 8. H. Blankenburg 9. E. Streltsov 10. R. Bonhof 12. B. Lizarazu 13. M. Tardelli
3. Tuppet (J. Litmanen) 1. B. Schweinsteiger 2. R. Völler 3. S. Lerby 4. W. Zenga 5. F. Ribery 6. A. Hansen 7. W. Sagnol 8. A. Kanchelskis 9. E. Abidal 10. R. Perfumo 11. Mascherano 12. V. Voronin 13. P. Littbarski
4. Onenil/Anders (D. Bergkamp) 1. H. Crespo 2. P. Evra 3. A. Sanchez 4. M. Essien 5. M. Carrick 6. R. Carvalho 7. F. Barthez 8. Maicon 9. Park Ji-Sung 10. Kenny Burns 11. G. Hoddle
5. Boris (K. Dalglish) 2. T. Cerezo 3. O. Ardiles 4. H Lloris 5. S. Gerrard 6. G. Popescu 7. Lucio 8. Jorginho 9. C. Moulijn 10. JP Sorin 11. L. Brady
6. TheRedViper (T. Cubillas) 4. C. Ferrara 5. A.Costacurta 6. D. Irwin 7. L. Mazurkiewicz 8. G. Zambrotta 9. J. Altafini 11. D. Trezeguet
7. 2mufc0 (F. Albert) 1. Z. Ibrahimović 2. 3. D. Ginola 5. Y. Toure 6. P. Cech 7. S. Campbell 8. A. Shesternyov 9. M. Camoranesi 10. Leandro 11. T. Kroos
8. Oaencha (G. Netzer) 1. M. Preud'homme 3. F. Inzaghi 4. F. Bene 5. Guardiola 6. R. Rosato 7. D. Alaba 8. S. Reuter 9. N. Kante 10. M. Verratti 11. G. Piqué
11. Pat (Raúl) 1. Careca 2. J. Barnes 3. T. Hassler 4. J. Giles 5. JM Pfaff 6. R. Koeman 7. J. Boateng 8. A. Haan 9. Bezsonov 10. Gemmell 11. C. Lopez 12. A. Cabrini 13. F. Bene 14. J. Heynckes
12. Moby/Gio (A. Giresse) 3. Blanc 5. J Rep 6. JA Camacho 8. D McGrain 9. S. Aguero 10. F. Toldo 11. Kily Gonzalez
13. RedTiger (A. Del Piero) B. Garrincha 1. O. Ruggeri 2. T. Silva 3. Stankovic 4. A Rattin 5. J Angloma 6. Petit 7. Zubizarreta 8. Ashley Cole 9. Leonardo 10. E Scifo 11. I. Zamorano 12. D. Alves 13. M. Essien 14. Ruud van Nistelrooy
14. Downcast/MJJ/Arbitrium (E. Cantona) 1. P. Kluivert 2. R. Pirès 3. Míchel 4. Simeone 5. N. Southall 7. E. Butragueno 8. Bremner 9. E. Hughes 10. P. Neal 11. S. Pearce
15. Prath92 (U. Seeler) 3. J Cesar 4. W Rooney 5. P Sousa 6. G Gattuso 7. V Kompany 8. F Ljungberg 9. S McManaman 10. G Chiellini 11. S Coppell
16. Raees/Invictus (D. Law) 1. Pirri 2. H. Chumpítaz 3. U. Stielike 4. T. Burgnich 5. D. Godín 6. H-P Briegel 7. J. Croy 9. G. Asparuhov 10. J. Ceulemans 11. J. Pepe 12. M. Fellaini 13. R. Giggs 14. B. Conti
Block list:-
GK: Banks, Buffon, Casillas, Chilavert, Dasayev, De Gea, Fillol, Gilmar, Kahn, Maier, Neuer, Schmeichel, Shilton, van der Sar, Viktor, Yashin, Zoff,
DEF: Baresi, Beckenbauer, Bergomi, Brehme, Cafu, Cannavaro, Carlos Alberto, Charles, Desailly, Djalma Santos, Facchetti, Ferdinand, Figueroa, Hierro, Kohler, Krol, Lahm, Maldini, Marcelo, Marzolini, Moore, Nesta, Nilton Santos, Passarella, Roberto Carlos, Schnellinger, Scirea, Stam, Terry, Thuram, Vogts, Zanetti
MID: Amancio, B. Laudrup, Ballack, Beckham, Boban, Bochini, Boniek, Breitner, Charlton, Cruyff, Cubillas, David Silva, Davids, Deco, Deschamps, Didi, Dunga, Dzajic, Edwards, Effenberg, Falcao, Figo, Finney, Francescoli, Garrincha, Gascoigne, Gento, Gerson, Giresse, Gullit, Hagi, Iniesta, Jairzinho, Johnstone, Kaka, Keane, Keizer, Kopa, Litmanen, Luis Enrique, M. Laudrup, Makelele, Maradona, Masopust, Matthaus, Matthews, Modric, Nedved, Neeskens, Netzer, Overath, Overmars, Pirlo, Platini, Redondo, Rensenbrink, Rijkaard, Riquelme, Rivaldo, Rivelino, Rivera, Robben, Ronaldinho, Rui Costa, S. Mazzola, Sammer, Savicevic, Scholes, Schuster, Seedorf, Sergio Busquets, Simonsen, Socrates, Souness, Stojkovic, Suarez, Tigana, Van Hanegem, Vieira, Xavi, Zico, Zidane,
FWD: Albert, Bale, Batistuta, Bergkamp, Best, Blokhin, Cantona, Cristiano Ronaldo, Dalglish, Del Piero, Drogba, Elkjaer, Erico, Eto'o, Eusebio, Fontaine, Fowler, Futre, G. Muller, Greaves, Griezmann, Henry, Hugo Sanchez, Keegan, Kempes, Klinsmann, Kocsis, Kubala, L. Suarez, Larsson, Law, Lewandowski, Meazza, Messi, Neymar, Pancev, Papin, Pele, R. Baggio, Raul, Riva, Romario, Romerito, Ronaldo, Rossi, Rummenigge, Schillaci, Seeler, Shearer, Shevchenko, Sivori, Spencer, Stoichkov, Suker, Torres, Tostao, Totti, Van Basten, Villa, Weah
Dip Pool:
Dempsey, Edmundo, Kanu, Kewell, Lampard, Lineker, McGrath, Nakata, O'Shea, Owen, Prosinecki, Rocha, Tevez, Valderrama, Vidal, Zola, Zyryanov
@Šjor Bepo @Skizzo
9. P-nut/Enigma (S. Mazzola) 1. M. Coluna 2. V. Vasović 3. G. Signori 4. J. Verón 5. Gerets 6. T. Courtois 7. C. Vieri 8. C. Puyol 9. W. Samuel 10. Ze Roberto 11. C. Azpilicueta 12. X.Alonso 13. K-H Förster 14. B. Robson
10. Skizzo (G Rivera) 1. G. Lato 2. R. Gadocha 3. R. Van Persie 4. M. Tresor 5. Jennings 6. M. Bossis 7. W. Jansen 8. M. Tassotti 9. T. Adams 10. D. Albelda 11. B. Auld 12. N. Vidic 13. Clodoaldo 14. M. Amoros
Reinforcement Pool:
1. EAP (E. Francescoli) 1. T Müller 2. L. Junior 3. R. Donadoni 4. Gentile5. Montero 6. Hellstrom 7. A. Bennarrivo 8. A. Picchi 9. N. Stiles 10. Andy Cole 11. D. Albertini 12. Eder 13. E. Cambiasso
2. Harms/Joga (P. Elkjær) 2. H. Schumacher 3. K. Deyna 4. M. Kaltz 5. P. Vierchowod 6. A. Demyanenko 7.H-G Schwarzenbeck 8. H. Blankenburg 9. E. Streltsov 10. R. Bonhof 12. B. Lizarazu 13. M. Tardelli
3. Tuppet (J. Litmanen) 1. B. Schweinsteiger 2. R. Völler 3. S. Lerby 4. W. Zenga 5. F. Ribery 6. A. Hansen 7. W. Sagnol 8. A. Kanchelskis 9. E. Abidal 10. R. Perfumo 11. Mascherano 12. V. Voronin 13. P. Littbarski
4. Onenil/Anders (D. Bergkamp) 1. H. Crespo 2. P. Evra 3. A. Sanchez 4. M. Essien 5. M. Carrick 6. R. Carvalho 7. F. Barthez 8. Maicon 9. Park Ji-Sung 10. Kenny Burns 11. G. Hoddle
5. Boris (K. Dalglish) 2. T. Cerezo 3. O. Ardiles 4. H Lloris 5. S. Gerrard 6. G. Popescu 7. Lucio 8. Jorginho 9. C. Moulijn 10. JP Sorin 11. L. Brady
6. TheRedViper (T. Cubillas) 4. C. Ferrara 5. A.Costacurta 6. D. Irwin 7. L. Mazurkiewicz 8. G. Zambrotta 9. J. Altafini 11. D. Trezeguet
7. 2mufc0 (F. Albert) 1. Z. Ibrahimović 2. 3. D. Ginola 5. Y. Toure 6. P. Cech 7. S. Campbell 8. A. Shesternyov 9. M. Camoranesi 10. Leandro 11. T. Kroos
8. Oaencha (G. Netzer) 1. M. Preud'homme 3. F. Inzaghi 4. F. Bene 5. Guardiola 6. R. Rosato 7. D. Alaba 8. S. Reuter 9. N. Kante 10. M. Verratti 11. G. Piqué
11. Pat (Raúl) 1. Careca 2. J. Barnes 3. T. Hassler 4. J. Giles 5. JM Pfaff 6. R. Koeman 7. J. Boateng 8. A. Haan 9. Bezsonov 10. Gemmell 11. C. Lopez 12. A. Cabrini 13. F. Bene 14. J. Heynckes
12. Moby/Gio (A. Giresse) 3. Blanc 5. J Rep 6. JA Camacho 8. D McGrain 9. S. Aguero 10. F. Toldo 11. Kily Gonzalez
13. RedTiger (A. Del Piero) B. Garrincha 1. O. Ruggeri 2. T. Silva 3. Stankovic 4. A Rattin 5. J Angloma 6. Petit 7. Zubizarreta 8. Ashley Cole 9. Leonardo 10. E Scifo 11. I. Zamorano 12. D. Alves 13. M. Essien 14. Ruud van Nistelrooy
14. Downcast/MJJ/Arbitrium (E. Cantona) 1. P. Kluivert 2. R. Pirès 3. Míchel 4. Simeone 5. N. Southall 7. E. Butragueno 8. Bremner 9. E. Hughes 10. P. Neal 11. S. Pearce
15. Prath92 (U. Seeler) 3. J Cesar 4. W Rooney 5. P Sousa 6. G Gattuso 7. V Kompany 8. F Ljungberg 9. S McManaman 10. G Chiellini 11. S Coppell
16. Raees/Invictus (D. Law) 1. Pirri 2. H. Chumpítaz 3. U. Stielike 4. T. Burgnich 5. D. Godín 6. H-P Briegel 7. J. Croy 9. G. Asparuhov 10. J. Ceulemans 11. J. Pepe 12. M. Fellaini 13. R. Giggs 14. B. Conti
Block list:-
GK: Banks, Buffon, Casillas, Chilavert, Dasayev, De Gea, Fillol, Gilmar, Kahn, Maier, Neuer, Schmeichel, Shilton, van der Sar, Viktor, Yashin, Zoff,
DEF: Baresi, Beckenbauer, Bergomi, Brehme, Cafu, Cannavaro, Carlos Alberto, Charles, Desailly, Djalma Santos, Facchetti, Ferdinand, Figueroa, Hierro, Kohler, Krol, Lahm, Maldini, Marcelo, Marzolini, Moore, Nesta, Nilton Santos, Passarella, Roberto Carlos, Schnellinger, Scirea, Stam, Terry, Thuram, Vogts, Zanetti
MID: Amancio, B. Laudrup, Ballack, Beckham, Boban, Bochini, Boniek, Breitner, Charlton, Cruyff, Cubillas, David Silva, Davids, Deco, Deschamps, Didi, Dunga, Dzajic, Edwards, Effenberg, Falcao, Figo, Finney, Francescoli, Garrincha, Gascoigne, Gento, Gerson, Giresse, Gullit, Hagi, Iniesta, Jairzinho, Johnstone, Kaka, Keane, Keizer, Kopa, Litmanen, Luis Enrique, M. Laudrup, Makelele, Maradona, Masopust, Matthaus, Matthews, Modric, Nedved, Neeskens, Netzer, Overath, Overmars, Pirlo, Platini, Redondo, Rensenbrink, Rijkaard, Riquelme, Rivaldo, Rivelino, Rivera, Robben, Ronaldinho, Rui Costa, S. Mazzola, Sammer, Savicevic, Scholes, Schuster, Seedorf, Sergio Busquets, Simonsen, Socrates, Souness, Stojkovic, Suarez, Tigana, Van Hanegem, Vieira, Xavi, Zico, Zidane,
FWD: Albert, Bale, Batistuta, Bergkamp, Best, Blokhin, Cantona, Cristiano Ronaldo, Dalglish, Del Piero, Drogba, Elkjaer, Erico, Eto'o, Eusebio, Fontaine, Fowler, Futre, G. Muller, Greaves, Griezmann, Henry, Hugo Sanchez, Keegan, Kempes, Klinsmann, Kocsis, Kubala, L. Suarez, Larsson, Law, Lewandowski, Meazza, Messi, Neymar, Pancev, Papin, Pele, R. Baggio, Raul, Riva, Romario, Romerito, Ronaldo, Rossi, Rummenigge, Schillaci, Seeler, Shearer, Shevchenko, Sivori, Spencer, Stoichkov, Suker, Torres, Tostao, Totti, Van Basten, Villa, Weah
Dip Pool:
Dempsey, Edmundo, Kanu, Kewell, Lampard, Lineker, McGrath, Nakata, O'Shea, Owen, Prosinecki, Rocha, Tevez, Valderrama, Vidal, Zola, Zyryanov
@Šjor Bepo @Skizzo
Sheep style - 1 pick and 1 block each I presume going through the OP @Šjor Bepo ?
cheers for the help
Final reinforcement round
Final reinforcement round!
Pre final reinforcements will be conducted in Sheep Format. The two finalists will submit 4 players, 2 picks and 2 blocks each, for three rounds. This means you can can add up to 2 player to your team and you will exit the round as soon as you have two successful picks but you will still be able to send block pick in each round your opponent participates. If your opponent successfully blocks a player you will get a fail for the other player as well, if you want you can go the same route the other round as the only way the player will be added to the block list if both managers go for the same player, in that case that player is removed from the pool while the other pick will get a fail.
@Skizzo @Enigma_87 @P-Nut0712
Pre final reinforcements will be conducted in Sheep Format. The two finalists will submit 4 players, 2 picks and 2 blocks each, for three rounds. This means you can can add up to 2 player to your team and you will exit the round as soon as you have two successful picks but you will still be able to send block pick in each round your opponent participates. If your opponent successfully blocks a player you will get a fail for the other player as well, if you want you can go the same route the other round as the only way the player will be added to the block list if both managers go for the same player, in that case that player is removed from the pool while the other pick will get a fail.
@Skizzo @Enigma_87 @P-Nut0712
No worries matecheers for the help
So we have to have two passes in the same round to add a player? As if we pick A and B and Skizzo blocks B we get fail for both picks and we enter the next round again with two picks and two blocks?
yes, as the games are a bit meh this way at least we have something interesting
Yeah I can see where you got the idea fromyes, as the games are a bit meh this way at least we have something interesting
I've blindly submitted my picks and blocksYeah I can see where you got the idea from
We should be done soon we're just debating our last one.I've blindly submitted my picks and blocks
No rush
I imagine you'll be getting two passes because I just took a wild stab in the dark I highly doubt thatNo rush
We've just submitted mate, but I expect to block each other or at least how we read the two teamsNo rush
Round 1 Results
Team Skizzo - PASS, PASS
Team P-nut/Enigma - FAIL, FAIL
@P-Nut0712 @Enigma_87 @Skizzo
Team Skizzo - PASS, PASS
Team P-nut/Enigma - FAIL, FAIL
@P-Nut0712 @Enigma_87 @Skizzo
Turns out he read us perfectlyWe've just submitted mate, but I expect to block each other or at least how we read the two teams
yeah wasn't hard tbh.
Just a thought: Going sheep for this double reinforcement adds quite a dose of regular draft/competition/one-on-one...ishness to the thing.
So, perhaps you should just release the shackles completely for the final – and treat it as a regular draft match, i.e. people vote for the best team.
There's something odd about abandoning the basic premise for the final, of course, but there you go. I struggle to see how anything truly game changing (literally speaking) could occur at this stage in the form of upgrades.
Unless one team (or both) go for something very left field in terms of how the main man is deployed. But that would be pure novelty, really – which isn't really in line with the original premise either.
Just throwing it out there, since the consensus seems pretty clear on the matches having become a bit meh.
CAVEAT: Haven't studied the squads, so there may be an advantage in there for one of the teams - in which case you can't do it this way, of course.
So, perhaps you should just release the shackles completely for the final – and treat it as a regular draft match, i.e. people vote for the best team.
There's something odd about abandoning the basic premise for the final, of course, but there you go. I struggle to see how anything truly game changing (literally speaking) could occur at this stage in the form of upgrades.
Unless one team (or both) go for something very left field in terms of how the main man is deployed. But that would be pure novelty, really – which isn't really in line with the original premise either.
Just throwing it out there, since the consensus seems pretty clear on the matches having become a bit meh.
CAVEAT: Haven't studied the squads, so there may be an advantage in there for one of the teams - in which case you can't do it this way, of course.
Aye, it would jazz things up for the neutrals, and there's no clear advantage with the designated players. It'd be quite fitting in that regard really, with Mazzola and Rivera having spent much of their Italy careers competing for one place. Entirely understandable if the managers don't fancy it though, having not drafted for it.