simplyared
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Klopp must have surely got it wrong bringing him to Anfield. An example of a player playing in a league way out of his depth. Interesting if Liverpool fans see any potential cos I don't.
Liverpool praying Bournemouth get promoted so they can offload him to them for over £20m next summerThey’ll probably flog him for £15m.
25m and a buy back clause. Its got Crystal Palace written all over it.They’ll probably flog him for £15m.
Thought that was weird at the timeAt £8m it was worth a punt but he was hilariously overrated at the time. Remember caf hipsters were saying him and Hwang were better prospects than Haaland this time last year.
Not started a single game for Leipzig in the CL or the League this season. 45 minutes in Europe, 104 minutes in the Bundesliga. 0 goals, 0 assists.£8m isn't bad for a flop. Too lightweight for the league.
How is Hwang getting on?
At £8m it was worth a punt but he was hilariously overrated at the time. Remember caf hipsters were saying him and Hwang were better prospects than Haaland this time last year.
Outroar on the caf that we weren't in for him. Liverpool fans were wetting their pants over him with many having never seen him play. They've all gone a bit quiet now, think he's been discarded for their new toy Jota
Hindsight is 20/20. He genuinely looked like the best player in that team.Thought that was weird at the time
Barely playing for RB leipzeg. They've really struggled for goals up front after selling Werner and losing Schiek, their current highest scorer is Angelino, a left wing back.£8m isn't bad for a flop. Too lightweight for the league.
How is Hwang getting on?
Sounds like something that would be said to defend Jesse LingardProbably going a little under the radar to be honest. He actually has the most presses per 90 mins for Liverpool this season although with only 1.7 times 90 mins to work with so that makes it easier to be high on the list. Keita and Jota are the next 2 of their pressing numbers
Yep. What an exceptionally ludicrous metric to judge an attacker on. Most presses!Sounds like something that would be said to defend Jesse Lingard
Yes, Lingard is one of our better pressers. At least from the front players... He's probably worth paying £8 million for as wellSounds like something that would be said to defend Jesse Lingard
Not going to happen not for that money! He's already 25 and not shown anywhere near the quality that would justify that price tag!Haven't seen him play but he only moved in January in a very disrupted season, yes some other new signings have may had more impact but it's a bit early to form an opinion.
Also, at £8m, expectations aren't that high. Watch them sell him for £20m to Bournemouth now.
Yep. What an exceptionally ludicrous metric to judge an attacker on. Most presses!
We'll be saying a striker has cleared a lot of corners next.
To be fair to Ox, he was really good in the second half of his first season with us. Just a freak injury which put him out for a year has stalled him massively. He still looks good but as with a lot of attacking players that suffer ACL injuries, he's not got back to that level.Keita, Minamino, Ox some massive massive flops.
At least Minamino was a cheap one compared to the other two
Generous. I'd quantify that CL final performance well into the negative millionsTo be fair to Ox, he was really good in the second half of his first season with us. Just a freak injury which put him out for a year has stalled him massively. He still looks good but as with a lot of attacking players that suffer ACL injuries, he's not got back to that level.
Keita is a strange one. He looks amazing in some games and then doesn't in others. I wouldn't class him as a flop but he's certainly not consistently playing to the level that I thought he would.
Minamino has been at the club less than a year, didnt speak the language to start with and had to adapt to a new country and the restrictions of covid. You won't find many Liverpool fans slating him. I think he'll come good but like someone mentioned, when you've got a player like Jota who comes in and immediately begins to play at the required level, it makes it harder for others to fit in without pressure.
Out of all the signings that Klopp has made, the only one that has been a complete flop is Karius and he was only £4.7m. Unfortunately, we only got a £4.7m performance from him a lot of the time
I was trying to be nice to the poor bloke! It's not everyday you feck up with millions (possibly billions) of people watching.... twiceGenerous. I'd quantify that CL final performance well into the negative millions
He's played 148 minutes. Why are you bringing that up? It has no significance.Probably going a little under the radar to be honest. He actually has the most presses per 90 mins for Liverpool this season although with only 1.7 times 90 mins to work with so that makes it easier to be high on the list. Keita and Jota are the next 2 of their pressing numbers
You can only judge him on his playtimeHe's played 148 minutes. Why are you bringing that up? It has no significance.
Is pressing the ball top of your list of what you want from your attacking players?!You can only judge him on his playtime
Well I guess we should wait and find out when he's playing next to Haaland next season (if internet is to be believed).One the one hand everyone on the internet says he’s shit but on the other Melissa Reddy claims to have been told by people from Salzburg that he’s a far superior player to Haaland and they set his clause low so they could let that beautiful little bird fly away. It’s hard to know which mentalist to believe.
Insignifanct data is not something you can use to judge anything on.You can only judge him on his playtime
Great so his actual performances shouldnt be judged. Got it.Insignifanct data is not something you can use to judge anything on.
Who said that? But Liverpool and Spurs' attackers press a lot more than ours do, so it is an area we need to improve onIs pressing the ball top of your list of what you want from your attacking players?!
Yeah that's exactly what I said. For someone that almost exclusive talks about statistics you sometimes have a hard time inferring their relevance. You refering to Minamo having the best stat in anything for Liverpool from his 148 minutes of playtime is like me going downtown and asking 10 people who they vote for and determining based on that how popular each party is. But let's get more specific. Your stat is basically saying Minamino has pressed twice this season. That's it. Why isn't Fosu-Mensah starting every match? He's got the most dribbles in our squad and the 2nd most key passes. Ighalo and Tuanzebe both have 100% passing yet they barely get a sniff.Great so his actual performances shouldnt be judged. Got it.