Ten Hag (end of the season) or Rodgers (now)

[Desert Eagle]

If you had to choose one.

Option A means very possibly a wasted season, 6 more months with Ole including fun trips to Anfield and Etihad. Possibility of no CL football next year.

Option B is also not a guarantee of CL football next year though most would agree it gives us a better chance. It would mean at least a year plus of Rodgers, very likely 2 years plus.


Is the upside of Ten Hag over Rodgers worth six months of Ole ?

 

[RedSky]

Ten Hag, every day of the week.

Rodgers record in European football is abysmal. No point getting another Manager that simply isn't cut out for top level football.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

If you did a poll 99% of respondents (including me) would say Ten Hag at the end of the season. Anyone who thinks Rodgers is worth a punt is doing so on the assumption that Ten Hag isn’t available. He turned down Bayern Munich quite recently, why would he leap at the chance to manage us?

 

[esmufc07]

Rodgers now.

 

[Flytan]

Six more months of ole will decimate the club for years regardless of who becomes manager. The players will all want to leave. It's not sustainable, so I'll take literally any scenario that removes the current coaching staff

 

[yamo123x]

Either.

Would prefer Ten Haag now, but if unwilling to leave Ajax, take Rogers.

 

[Flying high]

Never Rodgers. He's just too cringe. And really not very good.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Ten Hag, every day of the week.

Rodgers record in European football is abysmal. No point getting another Manager that simply isn't cut out for top level football.

So then could keeping Ole till the summer be the best move if the board has Ten Hag guaranteed behind the scenes?

 

[Marcelinho87]

Caretaker now, Ten Hag in the summer.

 

[roonster09]

ten Hag, easy option.

 

[YouknowNani]

Rogers now. It still pains me to say Ole out as I thought he was building something very good after watching his first two seasons here but the end of last season and this season have demonstrated he's nowhere near good enough and he has to go. If he remains in charge for the rest of the season we won't get top 4, half of our top players will want to leave at the end of the season and this will impact us for years to come.

It has to be Rogers now, who will get us top 4 and steady the ship.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

So then could keeping Ole till the summer be the best move if the board has Ten Hag guaranteed behind the scenes?

Of course.

The useless fecking players will probably up their game when they know they’re auditioning for a proper manager.

 

[Lukinho]

I would like Ten Haag more than rodgers but I would still want to get Rodgers in now. I just cant keep watching Ole till may. I dont know what other think about this

 

[Adisa]

Rodgers is a good manager but Ten Hag looks to.have the potential to be elite. I would rather wait.

 

[pocco]

I just can't hang my hat on Ten Hag being available this summer.

Plus the thought of another 6/7 months of this turmoil is too much to take. I would be happier to move on now and perhaps revisit things again at the end of next season. Give Rodgers or whoever a summer plus this squad and see what they can do.

 

[Anustart89]

It’s not that simple though, even as a hypothetical example. Six more months of Ole and we won’t be in the CL next season. Ten Hag jumping at the chance at the inevitable rebuilding job isn’t guaranteed.

Best case would be progressive caretaker (Rangnick?) right now and then sort everything out with Ten Hag and have it confirmed by March so we don’t get a mass exodus in the summer (if the club actually manages to sell the players who would want out under the current management).

 

[RedSky]

So then could keeping Ole till the summer be the best move if the board has Ten Hag guaranteed behind the scenes?

Honestly, its tricky given the way we're playing and have been playing in the last 3 months. I find it difficult to think we can keep going with Ole, I don't think there's an instant fix button that magically turns our form around and we remember how to defend and play football again. If we continue on with Ole it's a big gamble, with a caretaker you do normally get a new manager bounce for a while before it tails off.

 

[Cee90]

ETH.

 

[MayfieldsFinest]

Hiddink as caretaker and Ten Hag in the summer. Rodgers would be an absolute disaster.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Of course.

The useless fecking players will probably up their game when they know they’re auditioning for a proper manager.

If nothing happens this window that will become the dream/delusion. Our incompetent board have convinced the most wanted manager in Europe to come join our fiesta and kept it from the press. It will be Copium like the world has rarely seen.

 

[#07]

Are these the only alternatives?

Why can't we get Ragnick on a temporary basis? What's Jupp Heynckes doing? Zidane may not want it but if we offered him a pro-rata salary equal to £20m a year would that change his mind?

I don't understand why we're so keen to narrow everything down to Rodgers now or waiting for Ten Hag. Obviously between the two Ten Hag would be my preference. However, we shouldn't be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire for anyone.

 

[The Irish Connection]

Wait for Ten Hag. Rodgers would be depressing. Ideally get a caretaker in now who will hopefully give us a boost until the end of the season.

 

[Counterfactual]

Ten Hag, every day of the week.

Rodgers record in European football is abysmal. No point getting another Manager that simply isn't cut out for top level football.

This.

/thread

 

[Robbie Boy]

Ten Hag. No way Ole lasts the season though.

 

[Ixion]

The problem with waiting is you'd be writing off Cavani, Ronaldo, Lingard, Pogba, DVB, Henderson, Martial and more as they'll probably all move on if Ole stays/we miss top 4 so a new manager needs to fill the squad and fix our DM problem, and someone like Sancho will not develop much on the bench for the remainder of the season. A new manager now and we could feel more confident about top 4, maybe fluke a cup run.

A competent caretaker now and the best possible appointment in the summer is ideal but I don't think we will.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Are these the only alternatives?

Why can't we get Ragnick on a temporary basis? What's Jupp Heynckes doing? Zidane may not want it but if we offered him a pro-rata salary equal to £20m a year would that change his mind?

I don't understand why we're so keen to narrow everything down to Rodgers now or waiting for Ten Hag. Obviously between the two Ten Hag would be my preference. However, we shouldn't be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire for anyone.

Definitely not the only alternatives. The best thing the club could do as has been pointed out even in this thread is caretaker now, Ten Hag( or Zidane or whoever) summer.

Just wondering if you were faced with only these two options what do you go for.

 

[Flying high]

If we continue with our current form the Ole can't last more than a few weeks.

But if Rodgers is the best option to replace him now, then I'd rather either a caretaker manager, or a new head coach to take over training.

 

[Bastian]

If you did a poll 99% of respondents (including me) would say Ten Hag at the end of the season. Anyone who thinks Rodgers is worth a punt is doing so on the assumption that Ten Hag isn’t available. He turned down Bayern Munich quite recently, why would he leap at the chance to manage us?

He put out those rumours two years ago, whether or not he had a concrete offer from Bayern. At that stage he had been at Ajax for two seasons. There's no reason why after four years, into his 5th season with Ajax, the same still holds. I'd see two obstacles to appointing him in the summer, one being the competition of more ambitious and better run clubs, and two, related to that latter point, him maybe not fancying going into a club with a very weak structure and too much influence of incompetent people. I guess most people would be dreaming of him coming in alongside serious changes to footballing decisions to give him support of best in class people.

 

[Frank Grimes]

Are these the only alternatives?

Why can't we get Ragnick on a temporary basis? What's Jupp Heynckes doing? Zidane may not want it but if we offered him a pro-rata salary equal to £20m a year would that change his mind?

I don't understand why we're so keen to narrow everything down to Rodgers now or waiting for Ten Hag. Obviously between the two Ten Hag would be my preference. However, we shouldn't be jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire for anyone.

Isn't Heynckes 102?

 

[Dirty Schwein]

Is it me or does Ten Hag look like Sean Dyche before he discovered pies?

 

[andr1y7]

Rodgers now. Not happy about it, but I'm tired of writing off seasons. Also, if this season ends in disaster it will cripple us for another couple of years.

 

[#07]

Isn't Heynckes 102?

He's 76. I reckon if it was just a temporary gig until next May he'd take it though. But if not him what about Joachim Low, who I believe is doing nothing at present?

And why do we only have to look at coaches out of work? If United can trigger Fred's release clause why can't we go to another club with a good coach and say: 'Here's the money, let us have your coach'?

 

[DickDastardly]

Ten Hag.

Also, make a WhatsApp group with Ole, Ten Hag, Van Der Sar and Judge and just guide us to the end of the season.

 

[sewey89]

I’d go ETH at the end of the season, but there’s no guarantees with him either.

I do think Rodgers is vastly underrated on here though and if he wasn’t a former Liverpool manager, I think more would be excited by the prospect of him

 

[Frank Grimes]

He's 76. I reckon if it was just a temporary gig until next May he'd take it though. But if not him what about Joachim Low, who I believe is doing nothing at present?

And why do we only have to look at coaches out of work? If United can trigger Fred's release clause why can't we go to another club with a good coach and say: 'Here's the money, let us have your coach'?

No, hate Low and his stupid sixties haircut.

 

[LawCharltonBest]

Ten Hag end of season of course. Especially if we could announce it now.

More realistic choice however is Rodgers now or Pochettino at the end of the season

 

[RedSky]

The problem with waiting is you'd be writing off Cavani, Ronaldo, Lingard, Pogba, DVB, Henderson, Martial and more as they'll probably all move on if Ole stays/we miss top 4 so a new manager needs to fill the squad and fix our DM problem. A new manager now and we could feel more confident about top 4, maybe fluke a cup run.

A competent caretaker now and the best possible appointment in the summer is ideal but I don't think we will.

Cavani will leave anyway. He's on his final year, Ole was the one to convince him to sign on for another and he wants home.
Lingard/Pogba are also both on their final year. Pogba is 100% gone imo, he'll want a signing on bonus for a new club and get a bath full of cash. Lingard could sign an extension but he'd be a very expensive (wages) squad option. Honestly, probably best he leaves so we can cut down the wage bill a tad.
Martial has done feck all for 18 months. He should be leaving anyway.

Ronaldo will stay on, i'm 100% convinced of that. That leaves the odd man in the room, DVB. Cavani will be a blow though. Think he's a great option to have in the squad despite his age.

 

[ShinjiNinja26]

As much as I’d love Ten Hag here there’s absolutely no way I could suffer Ole for the rest of the season. No chance.

 

[Denis79]

It’s not that simple though, even as a hypothetical example. Six more months of Ole and we won’t be in the CL next season. Ten Hag jumping at the chance at the inevitable rebuilding job isn’t guaranteed.

Best case would be progressive caretaker (Rangnick?) right now and then sort everything out with Ten Hag and have it confirmed by March so we don’t get a mass exodus in the summer (if the club actually manages to sell the players who would want out under the current management).

Thing is that it's probably not that hard to do better than Ole considering the strength of our squad and whatever care taker comes in will be offered the job on a 3 year contract, that's how our board works. We are very quick to tie down people, slow as turtles to let them go.

 

[glazed]

Ten Hag. I don't want Rodgers at all but taking whoever is credible and available at the time is one of the symptoms of the club's total lack of interest in coherent planning.