Terminating The Reguilón Loan Deal

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Who’s bright idea was this then?

Once again we’re left with Lindelof playing left back because we have no fit left backs available. Malacia has been out all season & Shaw has always had injury problems. And yet we decide to get rid of the only natural alternative we had in the squad.

Just another genius decision from the club.
 

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We were clearly happy moving Dalot to LB but then the Wan-Bissaka injury screwed us.
 

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We likely thought Malacia was closer and we perhaps wanted to get a striker in on loan.
 

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Another Murtough masterstroke to make it look like he’s being financially responsible after spending close to a small country’s GDP on Mount and Antony.
 

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Shite decision and I said so at the time.

If Malacia were back playing, sure, it made sense. But even in that case considering Shaw's (lack of) availability it's probably smart to have three left backs.
 

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AWB back means Dalot at LB.. not as good as Shaw, but he will be better than Lindelof at LB..

whens AWB coming back?
 

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I assume we thought Malacia was close to being back fit. He had a setback and it's screwed us. Wouldn't make sense to end the loan if we knew Malacia would still be injured by this point.

It's a shame, because he played well for us.
 

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He’s at Brentford now right? Pretty sure he made a huge mistake yesterday.

We should have kept him though, especially as he was one of our better players the first half of the season.
 

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The Malacia situation is very strange. At the current rate I wouldnt be surprised if once he finally is fit we sell him the next window

The only bright side is that Amass might get some time on the pitch at an accelerated rate, maybe just as a sub coming off the bench
 

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Clearly something up with Malacia that the club do not want to shed light on. I can only assume that has worsened in recent months.
 

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Clearly something up with Malacia that the club do not want to shed light on. I can only assume that has worsened in recent months.
Between Malacia, Mount, Sancho and that period where Varane was fit but not playing, I'm not sure any other club has half as many mysterious absences.
 

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It was a financial decision if I recall correctly, this is why we didn't go with Cucurella as that would have been a full-season loan.
 

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Yes a really stupid decision that is hurting us now as Lindelof is a massive liability at fullback

When Reguilon left I assumed it was to make space for another loan player but clearly not
 

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He was shit. Termination was the right move.
Not replacing him was the wrong move.
 

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Don’t see why it was a stupid decision. At the time the decision was made Malacia was due back before February. Had he returned as scheduled it would have looked a very stupid decision to retain Reguilon. Who was awful in his most recent appearances by the way. Not sure why that’s being ignored here.
 

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Why did we send him back? Why do we refuse to disclose the injuries and recovery times for players, and say it's to prevent other teams planning how to play against us, when we play the same way no matter which players play? Why did we spend so much on Antony?

Because we're fecking morons, that's why.
 

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Why did we send him back? Why do we refuse to disclose the injuries and recovery times for players, and say it's to prevent other teams planning how to play against us, when we play the same way no matter which players play? Why did we spend so much on Antony?

Because we're fecking morons, that's why.
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Must we complain about everything? The guy bearly played when Shaw was out, would have been entirely pointless to keep him on now players are coming back. AWB will be back, Malacia will be back, are we even certain that Shaw has a knock at this point? He could have gone off for picking up a yellow like Cas and Harry?
 

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In situations like this, I always prefer us to look within our own youth system and promote somebody, even if it's only for a few games. We've already got Shaw, Dalot, Malacia, and AWB on the books for the left and right back positions, which seems like a sensible amount. I understood the deal with bringing Reguilon on loan, but also understand why it's only a very short team deal to cover any injuries during that time period.

At the same time, it really isn't viable to have 3 or 4 choices for every position to cover every eventuality. Financially, that doesn't make a lot of sense. What do you do with those players when most of the squad/everyone is fit and available? You're then stuck with players who aren't playing. What we need to be careful of is just stacking the squad with numbers, rather than quality.

I do admit that I am concerned by the amount of time Malacia has missed with his injury and the full scale of the situation there. Shaw has missed a lot of time with injuries, so that concerns me, too. But, to have 3 or 4 left backs at the club or players who can fill in that position just seems silly in my opinion. Sometimes we just have to make do with what we have, even if that does seem a bit makeshift at times.
 

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Don’t see why it was a stupid decision. At the time the decision was made Malacia was due back before February. Had he returned as scheduled it would have looked a very stupid decision to retain Reguilon. Who was awful in his most recent appearances by the way. Not sure why that’s being ignored here.
Relying on the fitness of a player who hasn't played even 1 minute the entire season and perennial sicknote Shaw is pretty stupid

Reguilon did alright I thought and certainly a better option to Lindelof at LB
 

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Didn't he also miss games due to injury in his short time here .
 

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Relying on the fitness of a player who hasn't played even 1 minute the entire season and perennial sicknote Shaw is pretty stupid

Reguilon did alright I thought and certainly a better option to Lindelof at LB
We’re not relying on the fitness of both of them. We’re relying on two players to cover one position between them. With the added option of Dalot playing there when AWB is available.

Which is exactly what we did last season, when Reguilon wouldn’t have got a look in and literally nobody would have claimed we were stupid not to loan another left back.
 

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Most on here thought it was the right call at the time. We had Shaw fit, Dalot also doing alright at LB and Malacia supposedly close to a return. Not to mention less games now that we're out of Europe and Reguilon himself not exactly looking great.
 

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Relying on the fitness of a player who hasn't played even 1 minute the entire season and perennial sicknote Shaw is pretty stupid

Reguilon did alright I thought and certainly a better option to Lindelof at LB
He had some good games I agree, I suspect it came down to the money and getting another wage off the books. We're skirting pretty close to the line on PSR
 

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Madness we didn't move for another LB even if Malacia has had a set back. With Shaw's availability issues, and Malacia missing so much time, we clearly needed another. This summer we should be looking at moving AWB, keeping Dalot as first choice (massive improvement from him) and getting another RB as cover, and determining if it is worth having two players at LB you can't rely on from a fitness PoV, and perhaps sign another too.
 

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We’re not relying on the fitness of both of them. We’re relying on two players to cover one position between them. With the added option of Dalot playing there when AWB is available.

Which is exactly what we did last season, when Reguilon wouldn’t have got a look in and literally nobody would have claimed we were stupid not to loan another left back.
No point comparing to last season, it's a totally different scenario that lead to Reguilon being here in the first place.

Since Malacia has been out the entire season and not yet back when the decision was made, it was a big gamble on the fitness of players who have shown no sign of being fit this season.

Are you happy with Lindelof at LB?