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The US/UK warning was about ISIS-K attack wasn't it?

Not everything has to be a false flag. Sounds daft just writing that!
 

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The US/UK warning was about ISIS-K attack wasn't it?

Not everything has to be a false flag. Sounds daft just writing that!
I'm not sure the warning explicitly mentioned ISIS but I think that was the hint, yeah.
 

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ISIS did not perform such major hit outside of Arabic-speaking countries in a while. Why now and there though if they did?
 

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The massive fire outside the building doesn't come across as an ISIS tactic. Nor does that fact that at least one gunman simply allowed himself to be calmly apprehended.
 

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You don't detect sarcasm. My point is if you're using past incidences to think every attack afterwards is a false flag, then why not say it for the US and 9-11.

Both are equally ridiculous to suggest right now.
Because the two aren't comparable and to make that comparison is ludicrous.
 

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ISIS did not perform such major hit outside of Arabic-speaking countries in a while. Why now and there though if they did?
I think the ongoing theory regarding their potential involvement is Russia's political relations with Taliban (with whom ISIS-K are very much in conflict).

Far too early to tell though since ISIS' (or anyone else's for that matter) involvement is pretty much a baseless speculation at the moment.
 

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Because the two aren't comparable and to make that comparison is ludicrous.
Why not? There were I think 13 high ranking signatories on the US attack and the only one who rejected it was JFK. Not imagine him being replaced with a dumb arse like Bush, why is it so out of the question given the US military was willing to do it decades before but Russia doing it again is a certainty?
 

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A small handful of gunmen, when they weren't busy shooting up the inside, apparently also had time to start a massive fire.

 

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A small handful of gunmen, when they weren't busy shooting up the inside, apparently also had time to start a massive fire.

I'd imagine that it's not that hard to do with explosives. And there were explosions.
 

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There's been fighting between Russia and IS militants in the North Caucasus recently - probably related to that, I imagine.
 

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Why not? There were I think 13 high ranking signatories on the US attack and the only one who rejected it was JFK. Not imagine him being replaced with a dumb arse like Bush, why is it so out of the question given the US military was willing to do it decades before but Russia doing it again is a certainty?
It’s quite a bit more probable in this situation considering the person responsible for the previous false flag is still in power.

Still, it’s speculation which can probably be avoided for now.
 

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Sad truth is that even if this atrocity has been carried out by some arbitrary terrorist cell linked to ISIS, for example, it will still be cloaked and reclothed to point the finger at the west and ultimately Ukraine.

To what end? I shudder to think.
 

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Why not? There were I think 13 high ranking signatories on the US attack and the only one who rejected it was JFK. Not imagine him being replaced with a dumb arse like Bush, why is it so out of the question given the US military was willing to do it decades before but Russia doing it again is a certainty?
Can you please provide a source for this?
 

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They were armed with explosives and firing guns indiscriminately. What is so outlandish about a fire starting from that?
The firing of guns apparently happened against people inside the building. From what has been shown, it looks like most of the fire is on the outside, when the building is massive (ie. internal gunfire wouldn't be sufficient to start a massive exterior fire). They could've obviously taken the time to start fires before the went inside and began shooting.
 

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It’s quite a bit more probable in this situation considering the person responsible for the previous false flag is still in power.

Still, it’s speculation which can probably be avoided for now.
Exactly, it's disrespectful to those who have died right now to pull the topic towards conspiracy theories.

Can you please provide a source for this?
It was called Operation Northwood.
 

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Quite amazing that the fire hasn't even been put out and people are still dying, yet some have already concluded and firmly believe that this is a false-flag operation. It took one to say it for it to spread like a wildfire.

Don't you want to wait a bit? Could be one, could be something entirely different.
 

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From what has been shown, it looks like most of the fire is on the outside
From what has been shown where? The building itself is on fire, not the outside of the building. If you're counting the roof as the outside... either you or I don't understand how the fires work.

And, again, there were multiple explosions, not just gunfire.
 

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Yeah, like a covert mission deep inside enemy territory would use a vehicle with Ukrainian plates :lol:

I'll bet there's a copy of SimCity in the van, too.
They re probably gonna "find" a Ukrainian flag with a swastika on it as well. :lol:

RiP to the innocent victims. I assume they all thought they were just going for a nice night out.
 

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Reminder that not all perps have been caught yet.

 

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Given past history and ongoing events, the options are:

- False flag (a replay of the 99 apartment bombings)
- Rogue Chechans (obviously not controlled by Kadyrov)
- Rogue Russians displeased with life under Putin
- Russian, anti Ukraine war mercenaries such as those recently making cross border incursions (the unlikeliest of options)
You're ignoring the most obvious culprit, you know the country who's engaged in a war of self defense with Russia

For bonus points, I'm going to throw in there Israel as well
 

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Visegrad is a terrible source, and Medvedev says a lot of crazy shit in any case.
They're quoting him correctly although it's pointless to make any conclusions from his nonsense posts.
 

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You're ignoring the most obvious culprit, you know the country who's engaged in a war of self defense with Russia

For bonus points, I'm going to throw in there Israel as well
We covered the Ukrainians by way of the Russian expats they are using for cross border incursions.
 

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You're ignoring the most obvious culprit, you know the country who's engaged in a war of self defense with Russia

For bonus points, I'm going to throw in there Israel as well
I'm having a hard time believing that Ukraine would do that. There's absolutely nothing to gain from this, on the contrary.
 
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You're ignoring the most obvious culprit, you know the country who's engaged in a war of self defense with Russia

For bonus points, I'm going to throw in there Israel as well
I absolutely knew we’d see you pop up in the thread the moment you had an opportunity to criticise Ukraine.