There is zero chance Arsenal will win every game. Arsenal will drop points just like other clubs. There is no easy game in EPL. Game in hand doesn't mean points
The chase for 4th place (not top 4)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
The evidence is overwhelmingly on favor of nothing is going to change. We will continue to drop points, almost every game.
We have been on a "must win next game" spree for last 7 games or so
This.
Spurs' remaining fixture is kinder than others' including the outside chances like West Ham and Wolves, and their form is quite decent. We're talking about Arsenal winning streak/form pre Liverpool, but they don't score that. Spurs recently has been great improve their scoring ability under Conte which is vital at this time of the season.
Defeatist’s..
Elanga tackles rashford
Fred clips de gea legs
Maguire pulls down shaw or headbutts ronaldo
and we deserve top 4
Fred clips de gea legs
Maguire pulls down shaw or headbutts ronaldo
and we deserve top 4
This thread just won't die.
top 4 comedy team of the year maybeElanga tackles rashford
Fred clips de gea legs
Maguire pulls down shaw or headbutts ronaldo
and we deserve top 4
If we finish 4th (which we don't deserve even one bit) then something is seriously wrong with Arsenal and Spurs.
Wait until Chelsea make it top3 chase with their also tough fixture...
Fancy Spurs to do this. Kane and Son are spot on.
It happens all the time. Finishing 4th just isn’t that high so you get bang average teams hanging around there.
If we had managed 3 points against Leicester, the mood on here and our top 4 aspirations would be very different.
But in true United style, we've squandered our best chance.
It's a 2-way race between Spurs and Arsenal now.
But in true United style, we've squandered our best chance.
It's a 2-way race between Spurs and Arsenal now.
All it takes is an injury to one of them two and then it will be a real big challenge for us.
Still a long way to go yet.
Have you noticed how often Kane drops into midfield and plays absolutely killer passes to Son. He's actually quite a bit more than just a target man who scores goals.
Spurs have the easiest fixtures, West Ham are in Europe and have played a game more, Arsenal have some pretty tricky games left and we have to hope something changes and we go on a really strong run or Ronaldo drags us to it with the same kind of performance he put in against Spurs.
Fancy Spurs to do it.
Fancy Spurs to do it.
I would be very optimistic if we could start playing serious football again. But sadly we’re not there at all. We look like we can drop points against anyone in the league.
One match at the time for now I guess.
One match at the time for now I guess.
We have Everton and Norwich up next. Either we get max points or it's another lifeline down the shitter. Ronaldo is probably our only hope at this point.
Can you blame us after so many frittered points
Admire the fact you still think we are in it
Amazingly, we are not out of it. Arsenal will be Arsenal, and Spurs will be at their spursy best. West Ham, also, have European matches. If Ronaldo can find scoring form, it isn't entirely impossible.
Our squad is full of overpaid mercenaries who don’t give a sh1t about this club.
Hate cavani so much for not showing up in important games. I’m pretty sure cavani will finish those open chances bruno, ronaldo, elanga missed.
I think if we miss out top 4, some of the big names will move away that will help us in rebuilding. Its good in one aspect.
Chelsea & Arsenal been lately lucky with their results and I wish spurs get CL qualification.
Hate cavani so much for not showing up in important games. I’m pretty sure cavani will finish those open chances bruno, ronaldo, elanga missed.
I think if we miss out top 4, some of the big names will move away that will help us in rebuilding. Its good in one aspect.
Chelsea & Arsenal been lately lucky with their results and I wish spurs get CL qualification.
I just realized how big the gap between City and Liverpool to the other teams is. Chelsea does not strike me as a great team at the moment, but thanks to all of us being so awfully inconsistent they easily cruise to third place.
Goold old Arsenal will bottle it, no doubt about it. It is a shame that it might be Spurs who will benefit.
Goold old Arsenal will bottle it, no doubt about it. It is a shame that it might be Spurs who will benefit.
Arsenal were lucky to get a point at home to Palace, who also turned Spurs over 3-0 and have taken four points from Manchester City. Palace are a good team and certainly one of those capable of beating anyone on their day.
Arsenal's repeated covid postponements mean they have used up most of their home games but stockpiled away games.
That's six away defeats for them now, and they still have to go to Chelsea, Spurs, West Ham, Southampton and Newcastle. They won't win many.
Spurs have a very soft run-in and will take 4th which potentially impacts on the future of Kane.
West Ham have Lyon in the Europa, and if they get past them it's Barcelona or Eintracht Frankfurt.
Wolves have to play the top 3 still.
Arsenal's repeated covid postponements mean they have used up most of their home games but stockpiled away games.
That's six away defeats for them now, and they still have to go to Chelsea, Spurs, West Ham, Southampton and Newcastle. They won't win many.
Spurs have a very soft run-in and will take 4th which potentially impacts on the future of Kane.
West Ham have Lyon in the Europa, and if they get past them it's Barcelona or Eintracht Frankfurt.
Wolves have to play the top 3 still.
Because other contenders aren't great either and although chances are we won't be making it, we would still be in the race till last couple of rounds so won't be expecting many youngsters to be used to gain experience either because despite all the talk of giving chances to the youth we are highly conservative in utilising our academy products .
We can still qualify for Europe (6th place) imo
If we had shown any kind of ability to string results together over the last two seasons, I might actually believe it was possible to get 4th place - unfortunately we have not. 5th or 6th is on the cards.
Agree that City & Liverpool are on league of their own. Of the rest, with some bias I would say Spurs are best placed to 'try' to make up the gap. Spurs are only side to do a double over City this season & also nearly won against Liverpool (draw) this season. Spurs were terrible under Nuno -under Conte especially after his first transfer window are flying - scored more goals than anyother PL side this year.
But then, its really about how Spurs finish this season. If they can pip Arsenal to top4, then they give every chance to keep Conte & Kane and push much higher next season. It wont be easy - Arsenal are quite good this season. I see Palace result a blip but losing Tierney & Partey at this stage is going to hopefully hurt them
United - I would take them serious when they take themselves serious & get consistent. That Spurs win should have given them all confidence to push on - but somehow they are stuck in same gear
Steady!
Arsenal beaten 3-0 by Palace might be a help. We must beat them when we meet, and hope other results go our way also. We need spurs and West Ham to drop points.
I am only HOPING same as most fans, but miracles do happen.
I am only HOPING same as most fans, but miracles do happen.
3 points off, played one game more and we have an away trip to Liverpool. I don't see how we pull this off, especially when we almost definitely will drop points elsewhere as well.
Might have been a different story if we hadn't put that pathetic performance in on Saturday, but the only team that are going to benefit from Arsenal bottling it, are Spurs.
Might have been a different story if we hadn't put that pathetic performance in on Saturday, but the only team that are going to benefit from Arsenal bottling it, are Spurs.
Utd might make it. Tierney is a big loss for Arsenal. Spurs look strong but you never know with them. Utd certainly don't deserve it but I wouldn't be surprised.
I was optimistic before the Palace game that we would do just enough to get top 4, without being overconfident.
However, the result, coupled with the loss of 2 key players for a number of weeks, means I think it will be too much for us now.
Add in Spurs form, & that of Kane & Son in particular, with their easier fixture list, they have to be favourites for me now.
However, the result, coupled with the loss of 2 key players for a number of weeks, means I think it will be too much for us now.
Add in Spurs form, & that of Kane & Son in particular, with their easier fixture list, they have to be favourites for me now.
I think it will come down to the NLD who gets it. Arsenal generally have history on their side but away against a Conte side doing well is a tough ask.
Spurs look favourites to me which is gutting as the manager they hired to pick up their form was ignored in favour keeping faith with ole. If we had appointed conte we would be front runners for at least 4th spot.
I give us an 8% chance of making top 4 as of now.
With our injuries I think Spurs are the favourites now. The gamble with the small squad looks to have failed
How we are still point wise in it is beyond me. Moral wise I don't see it. The players have given up.
I'd be gutted if we made it.
These players don't deserve to grace the champions league, these snakes deserve to play in the conference and be humiliated.
I don't want some of our players to succeed on a personal level, I detest them. The sooner we drop down the table the sooner these lazy downtooling snakes are kicked out and the club can be rescued.
These players don't deserve to grace the champions league, these snakes deserve to play in the conference and be humiliated.
I don't want some of our players to succeed on a personal level, I detest them. The sooner we drop down the table the sooner these lazy downtooling snakes are kicked out and the club can be rescued.
But they haven't been brilliant and Conte has shown his limitations. It's more a case of us and Arsenal doing a bottling job. And I don't think we should hire a manager just on the basis of getting top 4