Looks good. I wish the current one looked like that. The stars look a bit dodgy as if they were just plonked on top of the crest.They'd look better in gold than that awful yellow we use now though.
I must admit, I prefer the white background on the crest too. Looks more striking - especially from a distance.
As for the cheapo new crests, they were used on last season's away and third kits too.
Anyway, what do you reckon of this version then (click for 1680x1050 version):
On my wallpaper? I wasn't sure where/how to place them really. Curved or in a straight line, or whether they should be all the same size or not. I prefer the crest without them to be honest.Looks good. I wish the current one looked like that. The stars look a bit dodgy as if they were just plonked on top of the crest.
Would it be possible for you to upload a version without the white background but keeping the stars please? I've got the one without the stars as my bg and I have to say I love your work!On my wallpaper? I wasn't sure where/how to place them really. Curved or in a straight line, or whether they should be all the same size or not. I prefer the crest without them to be honest.
Now that looks like a class crest!By the way, I found this in an old thread:
Anyone any idea where the image originally came from or that has a larger version?
There are a few more photos of crests on my Flickr page by the way.
Many thanks!
Yes, it was run as a business prior to 1998, but it was still a football club run as a business. The removal of "football club" made into a business with football being merely one of their products. Manchester United became a brand first, football club second.Forgive me but I think United were run like a business certainly under Martin and Louis Edwards.
I understand what you mean though.
Probably a very silly question this, but how come that Moscow shirt has 3 stars when we won our third in Moscow?Love the three stars above the crest:
Probably retailed after the final. Not that I can recall ever seeing them during my weekly pilgrimage to the Megastore.Probably a very silly question this, but how come that Moscow shirt has 3 stars when we won our third in Moscow?
Correct - it was a "limited edition" collector's shirt. LinkProbably retailed after the final. Not that I can recall ever seeing them during my weekly pilgrimage to the Megastore.
needs to be brought back!Where does this one fit in?
Deffo my favourite design that one.
Thanks again Have to say I don't know much about Salford rugby, but I somehow thought there was some other reasoning behind it. Still, love the info you're providing. Gold for ignorant noggiesIt's a bit of a controversial subject really. The fact is that United adopted the Red Devils nickname under Matt Busby (the actual period when this happened seems to be something that no-one can agree on, but Jimmy Murphy's biography names their first post-war United team as "the Red Devils", although it was obviously written much later). Apparently it was because he had heard the name used in reference to the Salford City Reds rugby side.
The devil was used on club souvenirs and programmes in the sixties before being incorporated into the crest in 1970.
This is my new wallpaper, it's perfect. Thank you very much!
Could not agree more!They'd look better in gold than that awful yellow we use now though.
That was the 1992-94 home shirt. The design of that shirt (and the NH style third kit also produced in 1992) did not change, but kits brought out after the summer of 1993 (such as the 1993-95 black away one in the photo below) had the new badges with the gold lettering.You say this in your opening post:
In 1993, again there was a minor change - the white lettering was replaced by gold, as was the red ship:
Yet the picture above it, from 94 has white lettering. Care to explain? Great thread btw.
I went to just about all United games in the sixties but I just don't recall ever using or being aware of the Red Devils nickname during that time. Maybe just getting senile.It's a bit of a controversial subject really. The fact is that United adopted the Red Devils nickname under Matt Busby (the actual period when this happened seems to be something that no-one can agree on, but Jimmy Murphy's biography names their first post-war United team as "the Red Devils", although it was obviously written much later). Apparently it was because he had heard the name used in reference to the Salford City Reds rugby side.
The devil was used on club souvenirs and programmes in the sixties before being incorporated into the crest in 1970.
I agree with that part, a shame to lose that bit of tradition.I went to just about all United games in the sixties but I just don't recall ever using or being aware of the Red Devils nickname during that time. Maybe just getting senile.
Is it true that the City of Manchester crest was abandoned because of the detail involved or was it just used for cup finals?
I liked the old programme logo with the fan shaking hands with the player across a football, a symbolism that,sadly, seems a bit dated now.
Great thread. Thanks
How do you remember Red Devils becoming a common nick then? It's incredible to think that it might have snuck up on the fans from an unknown source. I'm just 34 so I've always thought of the club as the Red Devils.I went to just about all United games in the sixties but I just don't recall ever using or being aware of the Red Devils nickname during that time. Maybe just getting senile.
Is it true that the City of Manchester crest was abandoned because of the detail involved or was it just used for cup finals?
I liked the old programme logo with the fan shaking hands with the player across a football, a symbolism that,sadly, seems a bit dated now.
Great thread. Thanks
Not quite sure what you mean. I'm about twice your age and I remember a lot about the fifties and sixties but I just don't remember United ever being referred to as the Red Devils during that period. I'm not saying they weren't.Maybe some of the other old farts on here can help me out.How do you remember Red Devils becoming a common nick then? It's incredible to think that it might have snuck up on the fans from an unknown source. I'm just 34 so I've always thought of the club as the Red Devils.
Just find it puzzling that there's no clear reason behind such a famous nick name, that's all.Not quite sure what you mean. I'm about twice your age and I remember a lot about the fifties and sixties but I just don't remember United ever being referred to as the Red Devils during that period. I'm not saying they weren't.Maybe some of the other old farts on here can help me out.
That is shite.....we are the Red Devils. I would barely relate that emblem to United at first glance.Where does this one fit in?
Deffo my favourite design that one.
Yes, that's right - they got it after a tour of France in 1934.Aye, Salford RL called themselves the red devils before we did
I wasn't a match going Red in the 1960's but I have a 1957 publication about the Busby Babes and it refers to the Red Devils on the cover. So from an historical perspective we have a reference point from that era.Not quite sure what you mean. I'm about twice your age and I remember a lot about the fifties and sixties but I just don't remember United ever being referred to as the Red Devils during that period. I'm not saying they weren't.Maybe some of the other old farts on here can help me out.
I thought back in the early days they were refered to as simply "The United", rather than "The Units". I have a few facsimile newspaper reports and I've never read the later phrase in any of them.I wasn't a match going Red in the 1960's but I have a 1957 publication about the Busby Babes and it refers to the Red Devils on the cover. So from an historical perspective we have a reference point from that era.
Interestingly. in 1910, our nickname was 'The Units'. I am not sure where it came from.....possibly an abbreviation of 'United' but it is referenced in an old programme of the day.
This interests me quite a bit so I will do some research with all my memorabilia and see what comes up.
In the United v Liverpool programme of February 1910...the back page covers United's recent game against Newcastle. SW Gibbons, who was also the publisher of the programme, wrote his piece on the back page and is quoted thus:I thought back in the early days they were refered to as simply "The United", rather than "The Units". I have a few facsimile newspaper reports and I've never read the later phrase in any of them.