Yeah it's baffling, I don't see why Pogba wouldn't just do the same thing under the next manager.
The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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He doesn't stand for Manchester United!
But, he's the manager and I don't want the club giving in to some overrated, social media whore, so he can feck off too and we're still left in a mess
You mean you're sick of sensible supporters who don't go to either of the extremes? Who aren't willing to overlook Pogbas behaviour because of their hate of Mourinho? What are we, ancient tribes?
The manager isn't bigger than the club. If the manager can throw the entire club under the bus to save criticisms about his inept tactics, he has set the precedent. Pogba is doing just the same, throw the manager under the bus to save himself from criticism.
Both are wrong, but you Mourinhoistas usurp a moral high-ground in defending a manager who sets up cowardly on the field and is brash off the field. There isn't ANY.
If you can criticize Mr. Pogba then the same criticisms MUST extend towards the manager.
Like to see Pogba as the new MUFC manager.Think he'll do well.
More like Jose will do the same thing with the next set of players. That one isn't even speculation because he's done it repeatedly everywhere
You do actually, new forum rules...
Come back to me when he's as good as Hazard, De Bruyne, Eriksen, Sterling, Navas etc
Well said. I do not like what Pogba is doing and wouldn't miss him. Do I trust the club to replace him properly? Do I hell. However I also do not like the way Jose behaves. The football is terrible and as you said, cowardly. His attitude at times is distasteful.
I wasn't completely serious, thought it was obvious.
I know, tell me about it! All questions must now be answered in an elongated, constructive and precise manner.
Celebrations would be great, shame there wouldn’t be any.
Really? Why? How? When? What is the meaning of life? Enjoy.
Damn! I'll get back to you later!
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Me too lol. Haven’t heard one since Sevilla.
Throwing.the club under the bus? Jesus wept.
Sigh.... what a day that was
What on earth are you on about?
Mourinho has been getting worse and worse in his time here. People have different tethers. For some, like me, it is only about what happenes on the field. Some are offended by his comments which they think disrespect the club. Some don’t like the fact he criticises players in public. Some don’t like the fact he is fighting with the board. As time goes on, he’s shown himself to be doing these things more and more - of course more and more people are gradually going to want him out. Voices will grow and get added to, as he continues to piss off more of the fan base. How is this difficult to understand.
Our recruitment is a mess since over a decade now, its not going to change whether its a player's position or if its a leadership position. I've long lost faith on that front. But with Mourinho, I've never liked the man. Not for his football, but there is something in him that rubs me off the wrong way. But have to say his attitude off the pitch isn't helping it one bit. In spite of that, with Mr. Pogba doing what he did, I can't support the player because it just doesn't sit right with me even if it means to virtually side with Mourinho whose behavior is antithetical to a United manager in many ways. Its a very bad situation to be in, I really don't see any light at the end of the tunnel.
To be fair, Joses actions after Sevilla were a disgrace.
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"I sit in this chair twice in Champions League and I knockout Manchester United at HOME at Old Trafford. I sit in this chair with Porto and Man United OUT, I sit in this chair with Madrid and Man United OUT. So I don't think its something new for the club."
That's the highest football authority saying those words and those were one of the first words and they were unprompted as most of his digs.
I'd be charitable to assume you really didn't (or bother) watch his post-match Conference.
I was just reading the below BBC article about Sarri and how things are progressing in terms of football, they reference it as 'The owner is happy, the players are happy, the fans are happy'.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45657368
With Mourinho it will always be the opposite, he just loves being miserable or there will be times he will pick a fight.
Time to move on.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/45657368
With Mourinho it will always be the opposite, he just loves being miserable or there will be times he will pick a fight.
Time to move on.
I did. You clearly didn't get the point he made.
Jose has publicly appeared like a miserable sod since he arrived, I'm sure at times its been different behind the scenes, but I can't help but feel the club has more often than not been under a big grey cloud for the last couple of years.
Why didn't he just say how badly we played, and for once take a bit of the blame? Instead it all evolved into how brilliant he was. Was being the key word. He is still a good manager, but Manchester United need a great manager.
I agree. You also mentioned elsewhere about if we would replace Pogba properly. Ramsey will be available, he has always wanted to play or us, that is why he snubbed us and went to Arsenal. I could just see them using the Pogba money to overpay him and extend a load of contracts of players we want gone, but they are Jose's Boys. The only contract I want extending are DDG and Shaw's.
Because he was tactically trying to avoid unnecessary pressure on him or his team and gave the press something contraversial to write about instead. A lot of people, like yourself want to believe every word of his and get upset when he isn't positive of doesn't call Man Utd the temple of football.
Go look at the results we had after Sevilla. Youl find it worked.
Yes they certainly were and how anyone can say otherwise is completely beyond me. Still though, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and only started wanting him out recently.
Well I hope all this works against WHU tomorrow. Knowing Jose it will and he will go on a run, then we will go into another slump or get an absolute spanking off a big team to bring us back to our senses again.
What's with all the Pogba talk? Is he now to blame for Mourinho car crash of a tenure here?
Oh really? Could you explain what was the 'tactical' motive of him using them quotes. How did it avoid the unnecessary pressure when he literally lost half of this fanbase that day? If he hadn't said those words there probably wouldn't be a 'Mourinho Out Thread' on this platform. That was nothing but a self-sabotage. An implosion. In any other club, it'd be considered as him asking for the sack. Bear in mind, Mourinho could have had a go at a million other things, he could have taken digs at Montella, at the fans, at the referees, at the pitch conditions, at the shape of football, at the ball-boys, at UEFA etc. He could have picked any one he wanted but he chose to undermine the club. And not just that he chose to use his successes at other clubs to humiliate Sir Alex's Man United. That was just Mourinho betraying his narcissism which is his very true nature. You guys pretend Mourinho is a God who really is infallible and has somehow worked everything out, when it really isn't the case. You live on delusions and disparage us because we don't share your delusions.
But really how and why do you Mourinhoistas have the authority to interpret his statements when all you are doing is projecting your own wishful thinking on the manager? Why such liberties aren't extended to those who defend Pogba?
Was tha a cut and paste from contes first few months? Or basically every manager they’ve had in the last decade. I really wouldn’t use Chelsea’s situation as a template for stability or progression. They’ve done well under abramovich but should really be further along than they are. Which is the uefa cup.
I've already explained in previous posts. I have no interest in repeating, particularly to you.
The Sevilla game pissed me off no end because it just seemed like we had very little preparation and we under estimated a decent team. But I was willing to give him time given he had made decent signings and we were at least getting results despite playing shite football. Now the results are starting to disappear I don't see any reason to keep him frankly. Why would we? Bad football, bad results and he's a dick (our dick, but he's still a dick).
I'm generally struggling to find a positive reason right now. Even history isn't on his side, he's never turned around situations like this and always get sacked. So... we keep him because he's improved our results in the last two seasons and won us two trophies? We assume the 2018 form is simply a blip? That our attackers will all suddenly find form and start working together again or are we resting all our hope on Carrick and McKenna?
Yep, turns out Pogba was the mastermind for our tumescent football and us being soul crushingly dull, even though he's one of the most entertaining players we have. What a weird world.
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