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No, I don't think any protests or marches are ok at the moment.Do you think it's ok for her to advocate for everybody to meet up and march on Parliament tomorrow?
No, I don't think any protests or marches are ok at the moment.Do you think it's ok for her to advocate for everybody to meet up and march on Parliament tomorrow?
Well said. I can understand why people wanted to be there and that the police/gov could have done things better (I think? Seems like a bit of a lose-lose scenario to be honest) but that video @Leroy The Red posted shows it's not as clear cut as people would like to believe. It's turned into a bit of a messy affair sadly and definitely taken away from its original intent to the point where no one really comes out of this looking good.You might need to elaborate. The thread is showing that the issue is not black and white.
Women understandably wanting to pay respects in a low covid risk outdoor vigil versus illegal event during global pandemic the govt wants cracking down on sparks police reaction.
A lot of sympathetic people but also a lot who've made the sacrifice of being unable to visit dying loved ones wondering why they suffered when others can do what they like.
It's not a surprise there are different viewpoints on it tbh, even if everyone agrees it was handled terribly.
I swear to Lucifer if we go into another lockdown because of fecking London againTweet
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To be honest, I wasn't being completely serious, but if you reread what you wrote, it's not far off that sentiment.Yep that's exactly right. You've got me there.
This is the case that some have mentioned. 2 years is a ridiculous timescale to have joined that team.....very strange! https://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/call-for-witnesses-after-south-london-sexual-assault/It's not clear he was questioned about the indecent exposure charge, not from anything I've read.
Also he joined the Met two, not 10, years ago.
Do you have a source for that? I've not seen him linked to other potential crimes, but that may just be cos it's still early days.
www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-london-56331948
That’s just fecking bananas. Protests triggered by protests. Wait until that one gets shut down. They can protest about the protest about the protest.Tweet
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Proception.That’s just fecking bananas. Protests triggered by protests. Wait until that one gets shut down. They can protest about the protest about the protest.
Oh wow, although the description is very vague. Nightmare thought to have a psycho sex attacker cop.This is the case that some have mentioned. 2 years is a ridiculous timescale to have joined that team.....very strange! https://www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/call-for-witnesses-after-south-london-sexual-assault/
That’s where it’s headedThat’s just fecking bananas. Protests triggered by protests. Wait until that one gets shut down. They can protest about the protest about the protest.
I got emotional playing The Last of Us 2I've got emotional over the fate of fictional characters in TV shows and movies many times.
What even am I?
I have a shark phobia and didn't like going in the water in Grand Theft Auto 5.I got emotional playing The Last of Us 2
TLOU2 made me feel empty for about a week.I got emotional playing The Last of Us 2
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-43128350Sex attack victims usually know attacker, says new study (Scotland 2018 study)
More than 90% of rape and sexual assault victims know their attacker, a new study of almost 1,000 victims says.
Researchers from Glasgow University said it was a popular misconception that most attackers were strangers.
The study looked at the 991 women in Scotland who went through an advocacy programme, which ran for 18 months.
It found that despite many reforms to rape laws, women still suffered as a result of delays and the impersonal nature of the justice system.
The study also found:
- Just 9% of perpetrators were strangers to the victim
- 23% of women were assaulted by a partner or ex-partner
- 24% were assaulted a family member
- 44% were assaulted by "another known person"
- 32% were reported to the police more than two years after the incident
- More than 20% of the women took more than 10 years to report their ordeal to the police
- 22% had not reported their assaults to the police at all.
Only 12% of sexual offence victims feel police investigations are fair and proportionate, new study reveals 2 December 2020
- Dr Olivia Smith has published a new report that aims to improve sexual offence victims’ experiences of the criminal justice system
- It contains the findings of an online survey undertaken by 586 victims of sexual offences in England and Wales (233 reported to the police and 353 did not)
- The survey reveals that only 12% of victims feel that police investigations are fair and proportionate
- 77% feel that victims are regularly cross-examined on their medical and sexual history (only 5% disagreed with this statement)
- Only 1 in 5 (21%) feel the criminal justice system treats victims with dignity and only 1 in 5 (21%) were satisfied with their criminal justice experience
- The research is in conjunction with Kim McGuinness, the Police and Crime Commissioner for Northumbria. Dr Smith and Ms McGuinness are now campaigning for a national system of legal advocacy for sexual offence victims.
It was the logical next step. Besides posters being virtually universally united in their condemnation of male on female abuse the conversation had to develop into factions.Why does everyone seem to be clambering to call others misogynists? Is it not possible to be cynical about the intentions of a subsection of people at a vigil(being held against the wishes of the parents and police during a pandemic), not sure what that has to do with misogyny really.
Yep that's exactly right. You've got me there.
I feel like 4/5 of those ideas are really good, the fifth is questionable to say the least.What is really critical in the discussion is what can be done to make cities safer.
Some of the key aspects:
- Further roll-out of CCTV
- Several police sections in large cities specialised in each type of violence/offense/crimes, including
- Justice less slow and lenient
- Victims encouraged to make complaints: special phone number for women
- Incest
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-43128350
Suggesting a female activist is probably a sex worker is just about peak misogyny.It was the logical next step. Besides posters being virtually universally united in their condemnation of male on female abuse the conversation had to develop into factions.
say whatWhat is really critical in the discussion is what can be done to make cities safer.
Some of the key aspects:
- Further roll-out of CCTV
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- Incest
I confess I missed that Pexbo but I have to admit it was well worth those terrifying promises to place people on ignore.Suggesting a female activist is probably a sex worker is just about peak misogyny.
Off topic I know. Crimes are unfortunately various.say what
I'm really confused. Is incest a big enough issue?Off topic I know. Crimes are unfortunately various.
You‘ve listed 4 possible solutions to the problem, then thrown us off course a little with incest as the fifth.Off topic I know. Crimes are unfortunately various.
I dunno. Maybe he’s onto something? We’re brainstorming here. Don’t kill the vibe.I feel like 4/5 of those ideas are really good, the fifth is questionable to say the least.
CCTV is not oppressive. How it's used can be, but CCTV in itself is not oppressive at all.Isn't London already the 3rd most surveilled city in the world? In a list of the top 20, the other 19 cities are all in China. I find that very fecking concerning and would rather we come up with a more effective, less oppressive solution to the problem.
Keeping it in the family at least...I dunno. Maybe he’s onto something? We’re brainstorming here. Don’t kill the vibe.
Great post.I got emotional playing The Last of Us 2
To be honest, I wasn't being completely serious, but if you reread what you wrote, it's not far off that sentiment.
Or given her profession she’s naturally self confident and fearless in front of an audience which itself has empowered her to take the opportunity to speak truth to power.No it really isn't. I think it's fair to say that given her profession she's very aware of social media and it's possibilities. I certainly don't think she went intending to get arrested, but I suspect she knows how to turn it to her to her advantage.
Or given her profession she’s naturally self confident and fearless in front of an audience which itself has empowered her to take the opportunity to speak truth to power.
Shes doesn’t need to be the messiah. She doesn’t need to have a role any further than discussing what happened to her last night which as yet she has not left the scope of which is why the haste for criticism is so odd. As far as I am aware, she hasn’t once spoke about her profession, others have looked into it and used it against her.Think the worst and you're never disappointed.
She may turn out to be the messiah that we are all waiting for but I'll stick with my cynicism for now.
Shes doesn’t need to be the messiah. She doesn’t need to have a role any further than discussing what happened to her last night which as yet she has not left the scope of which is why the haste for criticism is so odd. As far as I am aware, she hasn’t once spoke about her profession, others have looked into it and used it against her.
What did you think about the George Floyd protests in the US?Well yes and her daft call for an illegal protest in the midst of a pandemic.
What did you think about the George Floyd protests in the US?
So you only condone legal protests? If so, why did you even add the "midst of a pandemic" part? The George Floyd protests were also in the midst of a pandemic.Were they illegal at the time?
Because it refers to the laws about public gatherings. It's pretty simple really. If you look at this thread you can see the anger of people who have abided by the rules at great personal cost.So you only condone legal protests? If so, why did you even add the "midst of a pandemic" part? The George Floyd protests were also in the midst of a pandemic.
What about the Hong-Kong protests? They were both illegal and in the midst of a pandemic. Were they okay?
Like I said, shes not supposed to be the messiah. She’s a woman who was the victim of heavy handed policing which itself was a case study of the very issue these women were showing solidarity for. The dismissal of her as an attention seeker because of her profession is unnecessary.Well yes and her daft call for an illegal protest in the midst of a pandemic.