So looks like I stopped when the series peaked, hence why I enjoyed it so far.
Not sure how you manage to make it bad after the first three episodes, as you just gotta keep it doing the same stuff.
Then again, the first few episodes was probably about 80% Frank Castles airtime
No, the second is not nearly as good as the first. It is still very good, but the first one is amongst one of the best action \ martial arts movies ever made.
Utter shit. First three episodes were good. Once we go back to new york, the show nose dives into shit writing and goes straight through into WTF is this shit? The whole Doctor and jigsaw thing was put together so poorly I can only assume that someone just stuck a pen up their arse and then twirked over a notepad until the story was done. The writing is so poor that the actors as good as they might be cant even emote enough to have us believe these two as a couple. So they turn on the emotional music and give us a sob story thats supposed to explain it all(it doesnt).
The Homeland chick, needs to make up her fecking mind. In or out. She only seems to go back and forth because it drags out the plot rather than because shes conflicted in anyway to the morality of killing really bad people.
The plot of the first three episodes that was really good, takes a back seat until the last two episodes. For whatever reason what was really good took a back seat to the really really really dull story of jigsaw and the doc and blah blah blah who gives a feck. Enter frank once again chewing up the "I kill people, and Im ok with that." for the umpteenth time. We get it frank, youre a tough guy. Funny thing about tough guys, they dont feel the need to tell people all the time how tough they are.
All in all, they should have shot billy in the fecking head at the end of season one and had this season be 5 or 6 episodes and called it a day. 13 episodes once again proves too much for marvel tv to fill. Time to take it down a bit.
Mostly poor to be fair, far worse than Season 1 and still nowhere near close the best bit of Punisher which was in DD s02. Bit weird given they knew they'll be cancelled so they could've gone out with the bang, done the reverse really.
The worst thing is that it's difficult to name the good bits of this season. The beginning probably, yeah, possibly the bit when Frank is being beaten up to shit and uhm, that's it? Billy was a garbage villain again, the Pilgrim was probably even worse. Some of the shit that went down was so ridiculous it's unbelievable, Curtis/Frank, both of whom served and are specialised in close quarters combat losing out to some ex neonazi now some religion freak guy? I mean fecking really? I'm starting to believe that Pilgrim, his 'background' (which, by the way, was very vaguely explained) and all the 'god this god that' bullshit was merely put there for political reasons. I mean, white catholic religious extremist with neonazi history? Media would wank over this type of shit.
The positives? Perhaps Amy, probably Curtis, Mahoney and Bernthal obviously, for me he pretty much defined the role of Punisher the same way Cox defined Daredevil, Jackman Logan and now Reynolds Deadpool. That's about it. Madani has been fecking annoying again, Dr Dickrider was some kind of a joke character, apart from her ass I cannot think of any single positive she brought into the show, hoped it would be Billy that finally fecked her off. She was so, so bad, she was shit in Supergirl, now it's like she's made it some kind of a challenge to be even more shit in Punisher. Shit was dragging with very little action and very much talking. PTSD problem has been done to death in season 1, no idea why they'd still carry on with it for half of this season too.
They really, really could've gone for some better villains and make it a success, that's how it worked with Daredevil season 1, half of 2 and 3. Shit villains made IF, JJ S02 and LC S01 (half of it actually) and mostly S02 tedious. Punisher s01 was bearable if not decent but again mostly thanks to Bernthal than anything else.
Only 4 episodes in....
How does ‘jigsaw’ go from hiding his face from the doctor when he takes his meds, to openly showing his face in public a few days after?
Also, his scars are shite, he’s still far too pretty. His face should’ve basically peeled off
Only 4 episodes in....
How does ‘jigsaw’ go from hiding his face from the doctor when he takes his meds, to openly showing his face in public a few days after? Also, his scars are shite, he’s still far too pretty. His face should’ve basically peeled off
I really enjoyed it. I get that there were some holes here and there story wise and the following annoying compromises made because of that, it had me hitting that fast forward button quite a few times. It made the slow parts feel slower than needed, which sucked because it really had some interesting visuals but that doesn't do much if you aren't paying attention cause of something else. But that is what I love about this show. The cinematography was considerably better in season 2, more depth and fancy shots, but it still maintained that same gritty feel from season 1.
I don't see the point of being too critical of the writing. It had some weird moments but it wasn't terrible, they disguised much of it in a way that fit in with the feel of the show. It could have been better but you got to take this for what it is. I loved the little girl and scarface was interesting.
Only 4 episodes in....
How does ‘jigsaw’ go from hiding his face from the doctor when he takes his meds, to openly showing his face in public a few days after? Also, his scars are shite, he’s still far too pretty. His face should’ve basically peeled off
I think Medani is like the teacher who won't give up on her wayward (ok, murderous) project. That and they saved each others lives in s1. In season 2 though she's just like an annoying neighbour complaining about the noise.
The script is trash and uninteresting. I don't need constant action, but what made S1 so great was that It had a suspenseful plot, interesting and colourful characters and a badass Villain.
S2 is what I imagine an awkward high school reunion would be like, where everyone was very keen to meet up, but actually found there was not much to catch up on. Yawn.
Up to ep 10 on season 2 and this season is basically being carried by berthental and the young girl, Madani was fine in season 1 but pointless in season 2, been good if micro was used a little bit. Billy Russo should of looked worse but I believe his character was handled well enough. Punisher is my favourite, none superpowers marvel character and they have done the character himself justice so far.
Just up to episode 10. I have been watching it just a couple at a time, whereas I binged S1 and I noticed the lulls more that way. The pace of this seems better when I'm spreading it out.
I don't have a problem with Russo's face. In the comics, he ranged from being a total mutant, to it being fairly tame or even wearing a mask. I guess they've gone with the latter. If he's a mutant, the it becomes a bit too comic-book like, which seems to be the opposite of what they're going for.
The only downer for me is Madani. She's a great actress but she's been made in to an annoying and poorly written for character. She was good in season 1 but now they've made her a bit stupid. Amy is ace though. I hope she chins Madani at the end. For no reason. No context. Just a fist in the kisser. Credits roll.
When Amy kicked her 'mate' in the fanny, that was fecking hilarious. I thought she was going to go all Punisher and just stick a headbutt through her jaw. Nah, punt in the cooch. Mega
Just up to episode 10. I have been watching it just a couple at a time, whereas I binged S1 and I noticed the lulls more that way. The pace of this seems better when I'm spreading it out.
I don't have a problem with Russo's face. In the comics, he ranged from being a total mutant, to it being fairly tame or even wearing a mask. I guess they've gone with the latter. If he's a mutant, the it becomes a bit too comic-book like, which seems to be the opposite of what they're going for.
The only downer for me is Madani. She's a great actress but she's been made in to an annoying and poorly written for character. She was good in season 1 but now they've made her a bit stupid. Amy is ace though. I hope she chins Madani at the end. For no reason. No context. Just a fist in the kisser. Credits roll.
When Amy kicked her 'mate' in the fanny, that was fecking hilarious. I thought she was going to go all Punisher and just stick a headbutt through her jaw. Nah, punt in the cooch. Mega
I've only watched the first 2 episodes of S2 but so far so good. Like you I watch a couple at a time. My missis loves it, or should I say she fancies the hole off Bernthal but I don't mind if it keeps her quiet.
I went against what I said above and just watched the last 4 in one go.
I liked it a lot. John's back story was padded out a bit too much, and Madani became more stupid as the series went on, but I thought the rest was good fun.
They tied everything up with no loose ends, so it's certain to get canned now, right? Two seasons was probably enough anyway.
Thought their were parts of the season that were really good and well done, every scene john was in was great and i also enjoyed the scenes with Amy and frank, overall it was a good season for me. The biggest let down was how they kind of pushed billy into the story, obviously he is a huge character but it all seemed very rushed. Would have preferred a cut down season of maybe 8 episodes with the sole focus on john, Amy and frank, would have been a lot easier to follow and could have cut Madani out of the season as her appearances were pretty pointless.
Mostly poor to be fair, far worse than Season 1 and still nowhere near close the best bit of Punisher which was in DD s02. Bit weird given they knew they'll be cancelled so they could've gone out with the bang, done the reverse really.
The worst thing is that it's difficult to name the good bits of this season. The beginning probably, yeah, possibly the bit when Frank is being beaten up to shit and uhm, that's it? Billy was a garbage villain again, the Pilgrim was probably even worse. Some of the shit that went down was so ridiculous it's unbelievable, Curtis/Frank, both of whom served and are specialised in close quarters combat losing out to some ex neonazi now some religion freak guy? I mean fecking really? I'm starting to believe that Pilgrim, his 'background' (which, by the way, was very vaguely explained) and all the 'god this god that' bullshit was merely put there for political reasons. I mean, white catholic religious extremist with neonazi history? Media would wank over this type of shit.
The positives? Perhaps Amy, probably Curtis, Mahoney and Bernthal obviously, for me he pretty much defined the role of Punisher the same way Cox defined Daredevil, Grant Logan and now Reynolds Deadpool. That's about it. Madani has been fecking annoying again, Dr Dickrider was some kind of a joke character, apart from her ass I cannot think of any single positive she brought into the show, hoped it would be Billy that finally fecked her off. She was so, so bad, she was shit in Supergirl, now it's like she's made it some kind of a challenge to be even more shit in Punisher. Shit was dragging with very little action and very much talking. PTSD problem has been done to death in season 1, no idea why they'd still carry on with it for half of this season too.
They really, really could've gone for some better villains and make it a success, that's how it worked with Daredevil season 1, half of 2 and 3. Shit villains made IF, JJ S02 and LC S01 (half of it actually) and mostly S02 tedious. Punisher s01 was bearable if not decent but again mostly thanks to Bernthal than anything else.
Not as much of a train wreck as Daredevil but it really tried its hardest to be. At least the final episode had some very satisfying moments, when a few of the main characters stopped being totally illogical just to drive the plot.
Marvel really have to learn to actually kill off their villains. Takes the absolute piss when you have Daredevil season 3 ending at the exact same point season 1 ended. Because villain. And then you have this season of Punisher ruined because they had to shoe horn in Billy with a plot that doesn't work with him at all. Even the psycho shrink gets a free pass into the (hopefully cancelled) next season. Billy will probably wake up in his body bag in the morgue, pop the 5 bullets out of his torso and carry on being one of the most moronic antagonists of any comic book TV series ever. Easily takes second place after Killgrave.
One other point is that they have got to stop trying to write moral ambiguity into everything. Shows like Breaking Bad do that well. Dexter did it quite well. Marvel absolutely suck at it and need to get over themselves.
Finished it the other day, it was ok. Not mind blowing but not awful like many have been saying. I just really enjoy Bernthal as the The Punisher so maybe I’m just looking past all the flaws in the show because of that.
Regarding Russo’s face at first I was critical of it but as the show develops its obvious the writers went the psychological route with his mental scars as well as physical ones. He used be known as ‘Billy the beaut’ because of his vanity and his personality being all about his looks. So everyone sees a good looking fella with some battle scars but he looks in the mirror and sees a completely disfigured, grotesque reflection.
I’d like a third season, one that focuses mostly on The Punisher kicking ass rather than trying to squeeze various characters in
I liked the dynamics between Castle and Amy but again, the writing has completely fecked the direction of this season. When you think about it,the plot and its resolution make absolutely no fecking sense.
Finished season 2 last night, enjoyed it, as a show it is what it is, a comic-book brought to life. Bernthal is perfectly cast as the punisher, he reminds me of a cross between Ray Donovan and Rambo and the show has a splash of Banshee about it. I haven't seen Daredevil which probably helped considering some of the comments about the Jigsaw character.
Finished season 2 and really enjoyed it. Of course there was some stupidity involved (10 episodes would have been fine, Russo’s face) but action was nicely handled particularly the opening fight in the bathroom spilling out into the bar, and the one in the Russian gym. Some good gore.
The main character is massively watchable too particularly when he wades into a fight. Good gruesome fun.
Finished it the other day, it was ok. Not mind blowing but not awful like many have been saying. I just really enjoy Bernthal as the The Punisher so maybe I’m just looking past all the flaws in the show because of that.
Regarding Russo’s face at first I was critical of it but as the show develops its obvious the writers went the psychological route with his mental scars as well as physical ones. He used be known as ‘Billy the beaut’ because of his vanity and his personality being all about his looks. So everyone sees a good looking fella with some battle scars but he looks in the mirror and sees a completely disfigured, grotesque reflection.
I’d like a third season, one that focuses mostly on The Punisher kicking ass rather than trying to squeeze various characters in
Russo’s face was the balance point between sense of thematic purpose....
.... and what his agent could argue his level of disfigurement was on the show.
They wanted the same actor more than they wanted the same character. Lord knows why because the end result was terrible.
My source : The person that did the make up.
Absolute shit show of a season. How you can fcuk up one of the best characters in tv dumbfounds me.
American stupid shit again. Take your lead from something like Luther. Show off the City. Give us 4-7 50-80 minute episodes. Be unconventional. Everyone will watch it.
4 out of 14 episodes were pretty good. 10 episodes were tumescent.
Finished season 2 finally. I'm on the opposite end to some people. I thought it began way to slow but enjoyed the more action packed episodes closer to the end. Thought Billy Russo was handled horribly. The look was the start of the problem. Just a good looking dude with some cool looking scars. His acting was bad as were his motivations. Madani was as stupid as shit:
says shes a "strong, skillful woman" and in the same scene gets slapped up by a nerd psychotherapist
The psychotherapist was beyond shit. At first, I couldn't stand Amy but she was pretty good as the show went on. Thought Bernthal and the black friend were excellent and I didn't mind Pilgrim, especially his fight scenes.
Finished season 2 finally. I'm on the opposite end to some people. I thought it began way to slow but enjoyed the more action packed episodes closer to the end. Thought Billy Russo was handled horribly. The look was the start of the problem. Just a good looking dude with some cool looking scars. His acting was bad as were his motivations. Madani was as stupid as shit:
says shes a "strong, skillful woman" and in the same scene gets slapped up by a nerd psychotherapist
The psychotherapist was beyond shit. At first, I couldn't stand Amy but she was pretty good as the show went on. Thought Bernthal and the black friend were excellent and I didn't mind Pilgrim, especially his fight scenes.
One glass of wine and she blurts out everything she knows about Frank, a man who has been given a clean slate and new identity. I don't know why they made her so dumb in this season
Pilgrim was pretty good. I could do without his bloated backstory, but the fight scene with the neo nazis was badass.
So unsurprisingly, The Punisher and Jessica Jones have now officially been cancelled. One season of JJ to go but I don't care for that series. Shame about DD and Punisher. Both were well-cast, fun series.
So unsurprisingly, The Punisher and Jessica Jones have now officially been cancelled. One season of JJ to go but I don't care for that series. Shame about DD and Punisher. Both were well-cast, fun series.
