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The Saudi Takeover Rumor Thread
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I'd love it.
Only way I see us becoming a truly elite team is with a change of ownership.
The way a team like Barca are run.
Only way I see us becoming a truly elite team is with a change of ownership.
The way a team like Barca are run.
Sadly, yes.
Because they are bullshitting thats why.
Haha, a “Woody”sandwich “Glazered” with a feck you sauce.Lunch to the embassy?
So wahabi terrorists are going to own us
We are currently owned by blood sucking leeches. If they stay in charge any longer this club will die. City/Liverpool are miles ahead. If the Glazers wanted to follow this leeching strategy they should've put someone competent in charge. Woodward has destroyed the wage structure, have massive gaps in the team and is clueless. The Glazers take no interest but sooner or later the sponsorships will dry out and the bubble will burst. The Saudis will be better then the current leeches.So wahabi terrorists are going to own us
Wish they'd hurry up a bit. I'll feel stupid making a new career mode after unlocking my financial takeover token as well as immediately selling three 99 rated created players to La Liga, until this is all confirmed.
This would basically ruin football for me.
What is the non ruined football for you?
At a guess any version where united aren't the vanity project of one of the most awful regimes on the planet.
The clubs most successful period happened under the Glazers.
Liverpool have won 1 League cup in 10 years. United have won 3 trophies since SAF retired. Liverpool are ahead in the league yes but that doesn’t mean they are ahead as a club. United finished above them less than 10 months ago.
The Glazers have spent £500m in the last 5 years trying to recover from SAF retiring, not exactly penny pinching like Spurs is it. Or Liverpool and their ‘net spend’.
Your post is full of the usual cliche nonsense that wouldn’t look out of place in the daily mail comments section on the internet.
No one doubts the Saudis ability to lift us back up and spend money, thats literally not the point or why people have problem with it. It's been spelt out enough in this thread.
Saying you find this idea of the Saudis taking over very unsettling does not mean you love and support the Glazers, it's not about them.
£500m that had to be spend. I hate when people state these figures but don’t look at the facts behind them.
Do you think replacing Rio was going to be free? How about Vidic? How about Evra? Rooney? Carrick? Scholes? Giggs? Van Persie? Fletcher? Should I go on? Of course we had to spend big. Look how many star players we lost due to age. It would have been negligent from the Glazers not to spend.
It would be hypocritical to say you'll stop following the club after Saudi takeover when you're still a fan during Glazer ownership. If there is no other choice but being run by ill gotten wealth, I'd rather the ones that won't sink us into debt and use us as a cash cow.
Why ?
The mental gymnastics of people wanting to claim Glazers are in the same league as the Saudi's is so unbelievably embarrassing.
It's crazy talk.
Ye. It’s gonna be hard to stomach.
But there’s not many alternatives in the big money world. They’ve all got their hands dirty.
But there’s not many alternatives in the big money world. They’ve all got their hands dirty.
Because neither is clean money as far as I'm concerned. While we may know some of Saudi crimes, I'm not naive to think that Glazer money is out there feeding and housing Libyan refugees for example. Thats as far as I will go down the political route but none of the two come out clean if you dug further.
You really have to go further if you come out with outrageous claims like that.
People either need to make their peace with it, or start supporting a different team as it is inevitable that it will happen at some point.
The above posts are a perfect example of glory hunting (winning at all costs). I find it hard to believe any of you would be fans if the club was in League 1.
This is nothing more than a lie and PR stunt brought forth by the Red Knights (from 13+ years ago) to turn fan support against the Glazers. I suggest you do a bit of research (and please don't pull up that silly Guardian article by David Conn. It's nothing more than a hit piece that can easily be disproven)
There are different levels to everything. Both not being "clean money" so they're equally bad is such a laughable cop out. I'd rather people just admit they don't care about the political side and just want to see us spend big and be like City, just own it.
Might be going out on a limb here but i'm guessing a situation where the club he supports isn't owned by a brutal dictatorship that beheads people and oppresses pretty much everyone else in their country.
Agreed. The whataboutisms and false equivalencies throughout this thread are embarrassing.
No I dont, just because you feel outraged by something doesnt mean everyone else is or the claim is truly outrageous.
Well you are claiming that the Glazers are culprit of crimes equivalent to the Saudi regime. If it's not outrageous, it's frankly special.
Jesus christ.We weren't exactly an ideal organization as a PLC prior to the Glazers coming in, very few top clubs are, the Glazers just took it to the extreme and at the same time they put us under extreme debt, something that could've easily resulted in horrible consequences for the club. In a larger sense it doesn't really matter if we're making money for a large amount of shareholders or a small one, but it was the way it happened. Yet we're still a well functioning club that base our existence on being run well. If one of the worlds worst regimes purchase us, with the sole purpose of using the Manchester United brand as an advertising platform to launder their image to the world, normalizing what's happening, it would kill the last bit of interest I have in the club. Manchester City fans were happy to go down the route of being a puppy for the likes of Thaksin and then Abu Dhabi, but even that pales in comparison to fecking Saudi. I honestly can't comprehend how thick one has to be in order to believe ownership under Glazerz is same same to Saudis coming in.
Well, that's like, your opinion.
I find it funny when people are bringing in "glory hunting" when They have nothing better to say. It's so easy to scream "Plastic glory hunters!!!". Did you even read my post properly? did it suggest anything about glory hunting?
People are trying to turn this into a black and white debate, wherein you’re either a saint, or you’re a murderous regime. There’s about a million shades of grey between the two, but no, it’s either or.
I just wish people would abandon these stupid arguments they’re putting forward. If your moral compass doesn’t bother you with this then just say so, admit that all you care about is the club winning, but don’t go off on these stupid arguments about how everyone else that could possibly own us, or every government and every organization that has ever existed is as bad the Saudi regime.
They did spend, had there been a proper structure and not the mess created by Woodward and his 3 appointees the amount we spent was more than enough to put a title and champions league challenging team just like Klopp has done at Liverpool, it might be difficult to digest for us as united fans but you can not ignore the truth. The same structure which led sir alex dominate the club and the league was the reason for the failure of this club post his retirement because we never evolved with 3 totally different style of philosophies the managers employed. You cant keep pushing restart button in this mordern era and change the style of football with every different manager and expect to build a title winning team.
The glazers and Woodward can be blamed for not planning for eventual Fergie and gill retirement but lack of spending is not the reason we are still short of where we needed to be.
I would rather have us bought by Saudis than any other club in the premier league.
Fully agree.
They had to spend because of seasons of neglect due to their penny pinching.
That should not be used as a reason to big up the glazers at all
That's a fundamental truth.
Forbes published an interesting article just when things were going sour for Mourinho. One quote follows:
'What was barely mentioned was that, while United are making more than ever, they are losing around half of everything that they make to the Glazer family,as well as financing the deal by which the family bought the club in the first place in 2005.
United have made £651m in operating profits over the last decade, but have spent £523m on financing the loans used by the Glazers to buy the club. The dividends paid to the Glazers in the most recent accounts come to £22m of £44m profit, money which many owners simply choose to keep in the club to improve performances via better players. As Ed Woodward pointed out in May: “Playing performance doesn’t really have a meaningful impact on what we can do on the commercial side of the business.”'
Rest of the article here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeme...s-the-battle-behind-the-numbers/#5a10e0104cb2:
'What was barely mentioned was that, while United are making more than ever, they are losing around half of everything that they make to the Glazer family,as well as financing the deal by which the family bought the club in the first place in 2005.
United have made £651m in operating profits over the last decade, but have spent £523m on financing the loans used by the Glazers to buy the club. The dividends paid to the Glazers in the most recent accounts come to £22m of £44m profit, money which many owners simply choose to keep in the club to improve performances via better players. As Ed Woodward pointed out in May: “Playing performance doesn’t really have a meaningful impact on what we can do on the commercial side of the business.”'
Rest of the article here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeme...s-the-battle-behind-the-numbers/#5a10e0104cb2:
You know that you hit a nerve when people you already have on ignore are following your posts in desperate attempts to argue with themselves and throw insults 
. Amusing, but I would still rather the 'Show Ignored Content' function is disabled so one does not lose time with already-identified nonsense peddlers
. Amusing, but I would still rather the 'Show Ignored Content' function is disabled so one does not lose time with already-identified nonsense peddlersAs for you, did you write that, read it and then think it was worthy to put out there? Or were you overcome with the crazy incessant need to insult that you lost all the few marbles you had left. Since when does knowing about Saudi crimes or claiming that Glazer money isn't coming from a morally superior place imply any of the points you seem to be raging against in the first half of your post. As for the politics, I already said I won't be going into that. Feel free to stop supporting if Saudis come along darling, one less idiot to waste reading and writing energy on will be a welcome sight.
We weren't exactly an ideal organization as a PLC prior to the Glazers coming in, very few top clubs are, the Glazers just took it to the extreme and at the same time they put us under extreme debt, something that could've easily resulted in horrible consequences for the club. In a larger sense it doesn't really matter if we're making money for a large amount of shareholders or a small one, but it was the way it happened. Yet we're still a well functioning club that base our existence on being run well. If one of the worlds worst regimes purchase us, with the sole purpose of using the Manchester United brand as an advertising platform to launder their image to the world, normalizing what's happening, it would kill the last bit of interest I have in the club. Manchester City fans were happy to go down the route of being a puppy for the likes of Thaksin and then Abu Dhabi, but even that pales in comparison to fecking Saudi. I honestly can't comprehend how thick one has to be in order to believe ownership under Glazerz is same same to Saudis coming in.
I just feel that it's one of them things that will upset people at the beginning but all will be forgotten when Mbappe scores a brace in front of the Kop.
Will be forgotten when we win a league title again which I would almost bet my house on never happening under the Glazer again.
So surprised there is not more hate for the Glazer's. They fecking suck. Even all my Liverpool supporting mates think so.
It's not ideal but I wouldn't stop supporting the club because I don't like the owners.
As I said, all will be forgotten if they make us a top European team again.
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