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Not good money to be made is there? Thought he was odds on.I think I'm going to put money on him being impeached.
Not even sworn in yet and he's already managed to stir up an absolute shitshow.
Not good money to be made is there? Thought he was odds on.I think I'm going to put money on him being impeached.
Not even sworn in yet and he's already managed to stir up an absolute shitshow.
Nope. Inept is better than the country being run by white supremacists.Would you swap Trump for May.. might be controversial but I think she is absolutely awful and possibly more out of her depth than he is.
6/1 on Paddy Power.Not good money to be made is there? Thought he was odds on.
Yeah that's what caught my eye.6/1 on Paddy Power.
Gotta be seen with the president elect. When I first read that they were Indian I just knew that they must of given newspaper interviews.Those three Indian bozos were too stupid to keep their mouths shut weren't they? Had to brag about meeting the president elect on twitter. I love it, he does have aa way to pick from the bottom dregs of human intellect.
I don't mind Pence at all. At least you have the certainty of knowing what you are getting policy wise and you are not having to deal with a Banana Republic cult of personality.I really hope Trump isn't impeached, Pence is scarier
6/1 on Paddy is to be successfully impeached before end of 2020. Impeached (only) before Jan 2020 is 5/1 on Betway.6/1 is certainly worth a punt. Impeached only right? And not removed from office?
That's always the ideal. Don't want him becoming a martyr, but you want the coverage to have a negative tinge always.Even if he's not impeached, then a continual focus on a story like this, where he's flouting the constitution and engaging in corruption (and hypocrisy accordingly) should help in cementing his unpopularity.
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What is the definition of successfully impeached? For example, would they consider Bill Clinton to have been successfully impeached?6/1 on Paddy is to be successfully impeached before end of 2020. Impeached (only) before Jan 2020 is 5/1 on Betway.
There's nothing bizarre about it. What he's proven so far is that he's Teflon, and with how gerrymandered Congress is, it's safer for them to toe the line and keep their frothing base happy than risk alienating Drumpfkins.That's bizarre logic. If he's exposed as corrupt, a vast majority of Congress will be under extreme pressure by the public and media to get rid of him. They are not going to double down on rampant corruption as if that is a winning strategy for them. They will get voted out of Congress in a heartbeat. Getting rid of Trump in favor of a true and likeable by their standards, Conservative like Pence, will be the far more politically expedient action.
They would consider Nixon as successfully impeached.What is the definition of successfully impeached? For example, would they consider Bill Clinton to have been successfully impeached?
I presume it means a majority is reached by the senate, so in Bill's case it wasn't successful.What is the definition of successfully impeached? For example, would they consider Bill Clinton to have been successfully impeached?
He doesn't own the party now - it only seems as such because he just won the election and there is always a honeymoon period immediately after Presidential elections where the incoming President and his party members in Congress rally together to advance the party's agenda. If there's one thing we know about Trump is he has little patience for disloyalty and disobedience, which may work within his company but won't fly in the Congress. The only thing that is missing is an inciting incident where conflict of interest or overt corruption impugns him, at which point the rats will begin jumping off the ship. As it stands, he already faces a lot of pushback from within the GOP on foreign policy; specifically free trade and and Syria/Putin. Once that event happens, things will begin to get interesting.There's nothing bizarre about it. What he's proven so far is that he's Teflon, and with how gerrymandered Congress is, it's safer for them to toe the line and keep their frothing base happy than risk alienating Drumpfkins.
We speculated for months that they would maneuvre to get him out of the race, well they didn't, and that paid off. He owns that party now. Haven't you seen their 'endorse but don't agree with then retract then re-endorse' bonanza?
During the election it was all about getting into power at all costs and avoiding a Supreme Court going to the Dems. Now that they are in power, there is a growing sentiment that Trump doesn't have as many loyalists as he needs to stave off a corruption scandal with Pence waiting in the wings.We'll see. After Chaffetz's 'I couldn't look my daughters in the eyes while still endorsing him' retraction, then promptly re-endorsed a short while later, I'm unconvinced any of them has the cojones to be seen as going against him, let alone actually being against.
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Michele Baaaaachmann.Not to get too far ahead but who on earth would Pence pick as VP?
Just a humorous reference to our recent disagreement about my acquaintance with US media.Why?
I don't suppose Democrats will change. Identity politics is now part of their DNA: they can't see beyond it. They'll continue to use their control of academia and the media to force that narrative on the rest of the country, which is likely to become ever more alienated.It's basically a big boo-hoo for white working-class folk who are finally finding out what it's like to be an underprivileged group in society.
Should democrats coddle that self-pity party or continue with the big tent strategy?
Can you explain what you mean there?I don't suppose Democrats will change. Identity politics is now part of their DNA: they can't see beyond it. They'll continue to use their control of academia and the media to force that narrative on the rest of the country, which is likely to become ever more alienated.
From the outside, at least, it looks as if US society is fracturing, perhaps even becoming unstable. Thanks largely to liberalism, Americans now seem to have more that divides than unites them. The 21st century is going to be very different to the 20th.
What do you mean 'is'? Social stratification has existed since the origin of this nation. It came close to getting better until opportunistic pols realised that pitting groups against each other got them elected.I don't suppose Democrats will change. Identity politics is now part of their DNA: they can't see beyond it. They'll continue to use their control of academia and the media to force that narrative on the rest of the country, which is likely to become ever more alienated.
From the outside, at least, it looks as if US society is fracturing, perhaps even becoming unstable. Thanks largely to liberalism, Americans now seem to have more that divides than unites them. The 21st century is going to be very different to the 20th.
It's as if people like yourselves are just not learning from what the people are saying (whether it's Brexit, Trump or other extreme movements both sides of the political spectrum)!
Look you're like our very own Trump, unable to build a coherent argument which doesn't contradict itself. Is the lesson from these events that we need to listen or that expecting people to listen is stupid? Is they key point who the "the" is in this argument? Let me guess: Historically disenfranchised groups and their supporters should shut up while we all get out our violins out for the working class whites and their supporters, who often seem to be extremely wealthy white people whose intentions are certainly pure.Did that happen everytime Obama or any other leader goes out?!
Give me a break - the patronising 'listen to me my point of view is soo important' is what turns people off (see Brexit, Trump and other extreme movements both sides of the political spectrum).
*sigh* never mindLook you're like our very own Trump, unable to build a coherent argument which doesn't contradict itself. Is the lesson from these events that we need to listen or that expecting people to listen is stupid? Is they key point who the "the" is in this argument? Let me guess: Historically disenfranchised groups and their supporters should shut up while we all get out our violins out for the working class whites and their supporters, who often seem to be extremely wealthy white people whose intentions are certainly pure.
That's his nickname. He was also portrayed in HBO's Generation Kill.Did Trump refer to him James Mad Dog Mattis ?