I was hoping to sleep tonight, but okay let's do this.
The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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The only way a President will go to jail is if he literally pulled the trigger to murder somebody.
Otherwise it would just set a slippery precedent.
Otherwise it would just set a slippery precedent.
I think the procedure it already agreed upon. If the charges are constitutional it goes through congress and senate hearings. If they're not, there would sealed indictments which would only get tried after the president finished their term or resigns.
He was a powerful man before entering politics. Powerful, rich men get away with criminal charges so there's that factor and him being President now adds another factor. Richard Nixon never had to testify regarding watergate because Ford pardoned him. Why did he do so? In his words Ford and the senior public officials felt a President being on criminal trial would set a precedent where it raises the question where do you draw the line? Every president could be accused of breaking the law. There is legitimacy and public support in wanting Bush and Blair put on trial for war crimes but it's not going to happen.
Impeachment is very possible I agree and I don't think on this mechanism Donald Trump will be protected. Removal from office is very different from criminal conviction. Though I always find it a little funny the reasoning behind impeaching Bill Clinton while Reagan didn't get impeached for what could be interpreted as act of treason.
The worst ones always survive the longest.
He's going to dream one night that he has woken up struggling with someone while they are injecting a massive dose of Adrenalin in his eyeball.
A future president would have to pardon him though, otherwise impeachment would open him up to criminal prosecution. The question becomes, would Pence or Ryan be willing to tarnish themselves like Ford did to pardon Trump, if it was proven he had commited crimes against America. The political landscape is very different these days, and a pardon could seriously damage their own presidency.
If Pence ascends to the presidency then I believe he would given he was recommended by Manafort who has gone down with the Russia investigation. Pence strikes me as a bootlicker. Ryan and Trump don't like each other and I strongly believe Trump wants him replaced so Ryan would have the opportunity to stick the knife in if it ever comes to it.
Ivanka will when she takes over in 2024
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He should try with Macron, he likes "experience".
Anyone noticing the heart likes and retweets are surging upward on Trump lately?
Those bots must be in overdrive now.
Those bots must be in overdrive now.
Yeah, someone put a tweet from some data scientist or something a few weeks back highlighting there's been a huge upsurge in recent weeks of bot account creations from sources that have supported him before.
Looks then like whatever that other person was highlighting a while back has been activated this week.
Edit: aha wait, maybe that was the person
I'm going to guess this will be a big week. He's due back from Asia in a few days so it will be interesting if something drops before that and he freaks out overseas.
I have to be honest, I thought it would be a little while until the next big news hits. I’ll be surprised if this is a big Russia story dropping tonight.
Army lifts ban on waivers for recruits with history of some mental health issues
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ilation-other-mental-health-issues/853131001/
1) Because THAT will help improve combat readiness
2) There goes the “we don’t let people with mental issues in the military” argument trotted out by people who supported the transgender ban
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I guffawed a bit at this one.
Probably tempered by his advisers strongly telling him not to directly insult the supreme leader.
I believe the proper term is 'fools and haters'.
Those likes are about as legitimate as his wealth.
There you have it, he pivoted. Such precedencial, many impress
Buchan posting has destroyed this thread.
Actually I'll reframe that : People feeding Buchan has destroyed this thread.
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He's caught Sander's penchant for making weird faces in front of cameras.
So, Trumps (Russian) bots have now reached Denmark. In a recent Facebook poll made by news outlet, BT, people were asked whether they thought Trump had done a good job. There were surprisingly many that thought he had. A guy who was surprised by the result looked closer at the ones that had marked the poll with a heart (i.e. good job) and almost all of those had very weird names by Danish standards:
It's a bit frightening that these bots now include Europe as well
It's a bit frightening that these bots now include Europe as well
Incredible that they made the journey. I wonder if it was boat or plane? Who funded it?
The social media are the most powerful thing in the world atm. Trump knows how to use them (in a crap way).
I don't get it... Why are grown adults taking these bots seriously? Who gives a flying feck about internet polls, any 'conference level' hacker can manipulate them. Who cares how many fake likes Trump gets? And why do educated sensible grown ups listen to those who do care?
I know i'm a social media outcast (this account being my only real participation in it at the moment), but for fecks sake. We can laugh and worry about or be condescending towards Trump all we like, but vast swaths of the rest of society has become ridiculous too, and the longer this goes on the more I think having someone like Trump as president is just the inevitable result of this trend, rather than the cause.
(Apologies if this belongs in the mental health / depressed thread)
I know i'm a social media outcast (this account being my only real participation in it at the moment), but for fecks sake. We can laugh and worry about or be condescending towards Trump all we like, but vast swaths of the rest of society has become ridiculous too, and the longer this goes on the more I think having someone like Trump as president is just the inevitable result of this trend, rather than the cause.
(Apologies if this belongs in the mental health / depressed thread)
In a word, Trump. He craves approval.
It has nothing to do with 'educated sensible grown ups' listening to silly things. The bot operation on Facebook/Twitter etc is nothing less than a highly sophisticated exercise in propaganda and group psychology.
We're a social species who inherently want approval and agreement from our peers. Things that have huge numbers of followers or supporters create a hype that draws in new people who would never have been interested unless they thought it was popular. If someone who doesn't have a particularly strong feeling either way sees an internet poll saying something like '78% of people say Trump is doing a great job!' then that information can become basically a fact to that person, especially if its frequently reinforced. Best of all is if they can get people sharing polls and memes, because if you see something on a friends page you're even more likely to adopt it as true, because people tend to trust their friends and family.
No-one wants to think they are influenced by this stuff, but we all are. It's the reason advertising and marketing work. I was reading an article on Mail Online (blurg) earlier about Russian trolls influencing the Brexit vote. The comments section was full of people saying 'Nothing I read online influenced me!!' and 'No sensible person could be influenced by a Facebook post!' which is bullshit basically, this stuff is a hugely effective way of swaying vast numbers of people. If you're not on social media then you can honestly claim to not be influenced, but basically all the rest of us are to some extent and in whatever direction.
Bots also target and swamp out real messages to make people look elsewhere. At some point you lose the will to sift through the garbage.
I agree with you that we need to know how much this has affected things, I just don't agree that the bot operation is very sophisticated, but I guess that makes no difference to its effectiveness, which is evident. It's just so frustrating that people's opinions are swayed so easily, especially given all the reliable sources of information available.
Edit: I still think its ridiculous that grown ups who have had the privilege of an education should follow this stuff. They are being silly. (Not the ones investigating it, the ones falling for it, I can't respect their opinions anymore than those of religious nutters etc.)
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@senorgregster yes that's one danger that I wasn't aware of. Thanks.
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I'm 100% there already. When I look at a Trump tweet, most of the replies are bots I've already blocked.
Its also a great tactic when say a normal politician posts something. Bots can go on overdrive and nobody can be bothered to read.
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