She essentially makes the peace between Rand and Egwene after the negotiations have failed, and then together with Nynaeve assists Rand in the last battle. So she finishes what she started, with mentoring/advising Rand.
I thought her making peace for lack of a better word between Rand and Egwene was a fitting end for her arc, I did too expect her to have a bigger role and the one she has could be passed off to Cadsuane if Rosamund doesn't want to come back for the ending seasons. It'd be a shame though. Shes one character that never quite got the end she deserved.
She kinda did, right? Her life's mission was successfully achieved, she fall in love with Thom and went with him, and knowing her, most likely she deducted that Rand survived (Cadsuane did too).
Yup, seems so.
Yep, that seems likely when they're focusing on her so much. She also said she was heading west, so... yeah. Definitely feel like they're going to introduce the Seanchan next season, and then they're going to stick around in some capacity as opposed to disappearing for a while like in the books. For TV it just makes more sense that way.
This is the spoilery thread, be careful. Maybe the thread should be renamed to make it clearer if people can't see the full title when they click the thread. Like "WoT Books . . . " or something.
Not read the books but had him nailed on as the dragon as soon as I saw him.
I don't think we can blame the actor, he hasn't been given much yet. He showed good glimpses in I think the 2nd episode, when he stubbornly railed against Moiraine. Next episode they reveal the DR, so I suspect we'll get to see a lot more of Rand in the final 2 episodes.
Rand is a bit different, given that he slowly descends into paranoid madness. They have to have picked an actor who can get there, that has to have been a consideration.Not read the books but had him nailed on as the dragon as soon as I saw him.
Who'd have guessed that the off-the-shelf bland, generic vanilla protagonist guy might turn out to be the main character... like in most other shows ever?
Both I believe that is why this thread is dangerous for anybody who has not finished the books.
Everything goes.
Yes: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/the-wheel-of-time-thread-for-the-tv-show-book-nerds-shoo.449879/
Definitely sounds more intriguing than the character we've had for the first few episodes of the show at least. Hopefully the writers can pull that kind of character change off with a bit more care than the GOT lot did, and the lad has the range to pull it off.
He starts as generic vanilla, but becomes a very complex character during the series of books.Not read the books but had him nailed on as the dragon as soon as I saw him.
Who'd have guessed that the off-the-shelf bland, generic vanilla protagonist guy might turn out to be the main character... like in most other shows ever?
I think the show are trying too hard to make everyone else look the dragon they've kinda sidelined rand and given away who the dragon is.
Yup.
Thanks for the warning, but I'm aware and in the thread at my own risk! I've never been one to care about spoilers at all and if anything, the little hints in here of where things are going and nods towards some of the depth from the books that might be given more attention later is allowing me to have a bit more patience with the show and give it a bit longer than I might otherwise have. I'll have a look at the Prime extras when I get a chance, cheers.@V.O. I just saw that you haven't read the books, this is not the best thread if you want to avoid spoilers. That's basically all Revan and I do, we argue about spoilers.
Edit: Also, if you're watching it on Prime Video, I'd check out the extras. Every episode has had a 2-3 minute animated short about some aspect or other of lore, and there are also short bits of text explaining some things. It's a massive series of massive books, so there's a lot of lore they couldn't get into the show clearly. At least not to begin with.
I think the problem is that WoT is just huge. You have so many fractions: around 20 nations in the main continent, plus the Aiel (mentioned already a few times), the Saenchan (hinted this episode), a civilization that won't be seen till the end of the saga, the White Cloaks that you saw, several unaffiliated powers which are not really states, but could be very powerful (the Kin, the Windrunners), and then you have Aes Sedai with the 7 Ajahs, each one having a head (not known to anyone else outside of the Ajah) and three sitters. Then you have the politics within the Aes Sedai, that the more powerful in the power an Aes Sedai is, the more political power she has (both Siuan and Moiraine are in top 5). Then you have the equivalent of Aes Sedai from the civilizations outside of the continent (Aiel, Saenchan, Shara) with all the politics going there, etc etc. Then you have the Dark one minions, you have seen Trollocs and Fades, but there are many more, including the Forsaken which were already once mentioned.
Yeah, thanks. I'll probably avoid this thread.
For sure, Thrones was much more manageable because the landmass for the most part was far less populated (at least thats the feeling I get) and Westeros while 3k miles long apparently is only a few hundred miles wide, Randland is about 4k x 3k not including Seanchan and everything past the spine. You'd probably fit Westeros into just the early Randland map at least 6 times, without factoring in Seanchan (which itself is far bigger than other areas), Shara, the Wastes or the Blight.
He knocked down a door immediately after someone said three men couldn't knock that door down, that was definitely a hint. I think he might have been healing Mat too, I think Moiraine mentioned that he should be dead already. There was also Logain laughing at him, though it was played off as either him laughing at Mat, or Mat imagining the entire thing.
Book 3 was brilliant though, as it really opened up the scope of the series and by not focusing so strongly on Rands' POV it was able to show his impact and influence on a greater scale. It was a transformative book for the series.
Yeah. Also, surprising that only its only Loial who has commented so far on how Rand looks different from the others and that he has those distinct Aiel features. I think more should have been made of that by others whom he encountered on the road.
Agreed about Pike though. She has been brilliant so far and will be a shame when the show looses here in couple of seasons.Rosamund Pike is brilliant though. Every close up I see her facial expressions convey every ounce of the motivations and conflicts I know the character has from the full depth of the books. It's quite something. Since they're changing so much can we just have her as the Dragon instead?
Ah... I forgot you are the original RJ wanker and no one can do the story justice apart from him
I am not sure that works in the TV world with how diverse everywhere is. Why would red hair be remarked upon when everywhere they have been, including small isolated towns, are hugely diverse? Understandable why they have gone with this approach but it may make establishing different cultures later difficult.
Logain laughing was a nice touch, but they overplayed the camera focus on Mat. And Mat being alive could be attributed to his resilience, also. They've just been ham-fisted with overdoing the distraction away from Rand, where a little subtlety would have worked much better.
Guilty as chargedAh... I forgot you are the original RJ wanker and no one can do the story justice apart from him
Ha! So I was right with my guess then.
If you want a map see below. You should also be safe clicking on the map to get it larger if need as I've tried to link the map image only so it won't give any text explanation etc.
Gracias.If you want a map see below. You should also be safe clicking on the map to get it larger if need as I've tried to link the map image only so it won't give any text explanation etc.
