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It's fascinating how wrestlers get a taste for acting and want to go fully into it.
 

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I completely disagree. Assuming it’s not a work, then this is all on Sasha and Naomi. Hugely unprofessional. Dragging it onto TV is weird though, which makes me think it’s a work, or was real and is being turned into an angle
Agreed, why wrestlers are apparently supporting them is ridiculous too. What kind of precedent does that set? Anytime someone doesn’t like their storyline they get to just leave and walk out the show? feck off..
You’re contracted to do your job so fecking do it. I’ve no doubt Sasha was probably the ring leader, she comes across as having a massive ego.
 

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Lanas new career is going well, smashed all subscription records on first day apparently :lol:
 

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FITE TV is still only charging me $4.99 per month for my AEW subscription, whist now granting me the 2 FITE credits also. Since they put their prices up, it has actually got cheaper for me, as I will get one free PPV a year from the credits.

I noticed as well that you can the PPVs discounted by pre-ordering early as they give you addition credits: currently 2 for Double or Nothing and 4 for Forbidden Door.
 

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Got my tickets for clash of the castle (stupid name), should be a lot of fun, never done a WWE stadium event and probably the closest ill get to WM.
 

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Agreed, why wrestlers are apparently supporting them is ridiculous too. What kind of precedent does that set? Anytime someone doesn’t like their storyline they get to just leave and walk out the show? feck off..
You’re contracted to do your job so fecking do it. I’ve no doubt Sasha was probably the ring leader, she comes across as having a massive ego.
Didn’t do Stone Cold Steve Austin any harm. Or CM Punk.
 

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Didn’t do Stone Cold Steve Austin any harm. Or CM Punk.
Austin admitted he was wrong in what he did.

Punk - he went off TV for years during his money making peak, and didn't really have any major money roles until this AEW nostalgia run.

Sasha & Naomi were unprofessional. It'd be like De Gea just refusing to play anymore because he's got to play with Maguire.
 

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Looks like MJF may be burning bridges with AEW.
You realise that 1) He's contracted for another 2.5 years and 2) He's always in character

?

Thats not to say he isnt unhappy about something. But its not like he can leave and it isnt that surprising for MJF not to show up at a fan meet and greet with his character
 

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Wonder why there isn’t the same outroar for what he’s done vs what Sasha/Naomi did.
It’s very interesting. Can’t wait to see FTR, Punks supportive tweets on this.
MJF has far more right to be upset than Sasha and Naomi but I bet it’s not covered the same way.
Start a union!
 

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It’s very interesting. Can’t wait to see FTR, Punks supportive tweets on this.
MJF has far more right to be upset than Sasha and Naomi but I bet it’s not covered the same way.
Start a union!
Why would a union be able to secure one individual more pay for nothing, simply due to their own entitlement?

Footballers are unionised via the PFA and FIFPro but don’t just get (or even expect) pay rises if they consider themselves underpaid relative to their status within their squad.
 

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Why would a union be able to secure one individual more pay for nothing, simply due to their own entitlement?

Footballers are unionised via the PFA and FIFPro but don’t just get (or even expect) pay rises if they consider themselves underpaid relative to their status within their squad.
That’s not my point. That’s the point if many fans after Banks and Naomi incident. I’m saying those calls wont realise their head now because it doesn’t involve WWE
 

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Just seen the news about MJF it will be a huge blow for AEW

Not sure what's going on with wrestlers no showing/walking out this past few months.
 

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Just seen the news about MJF it will be a huge blow for AEW

Not sure what's going on with wrestlers no showing/walking out this past few months.
If its real beyond MJF trying to get more money in a contract at AEW without extending the time then its what happens when there are genuine options of going somewhere else and with AEW being "full" and needing to keep as many people as possible happy.

What I will say is as far as I'm concerned MJF and Britt Baker are the two heels in the company that you do want to keep happy. So if they want special contracts and rewards TK will have to think about whether its worth the politics with the other guys who see that and then ask for the same.

I would do it
 

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Wonder why there isn’t the same outroar for what he’s done vs what Sasha/Naomi did.
Can't speak for anyone but myself but this is the first I'm hearing about it this morning so maybe hold fire on your strawman arguments until everyone is up to speed.

If this isn't a work or a misunderstanding and he's walked one day from a ppv then I expect the condemnation to be universal. Should be blackballed by everyone for fecking over Wardlow who certainly doesn't deserve this. But let's wait and see because at the moment all I see is speculation.
 

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Just seen the news about MJF it will be a huge blow for AEW

Not sure what's going on with wrestlers no showing/walking out this past few months.
Samoa Joe also no showed last night fan event apparently.
 

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Sasha & Naomi walked out due to how they were being treated and despite the WWE spin on it is publicly, they had not been advertised to wrestle that night.

WWE promoted a match afterwards, knowing full well that they had left 2+ hours before hand.

MJF choosing the Casino over an advertised and paid for booking is bad.

Joe also didn't show up either, no reason given as yet.

The last few days it appears MJF & Khan have has several heated arguments (on top of one's previously) so it's not looking very pretty.

To be fair to MJF, if he was at United he would have been given at least 2 new contracts by now.
 

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MJF is good, but he’s not “give him a blank check and walk all over you and the locker room” good. AEW will be weaker without him, but it is not as if they are short of talent to fill the void. People wouldn’t have been able to conceive of AEW without Cody Rhodes a year ago, but here we are; most people are far more replaceable than many are willing to admit and life will go on.

If he’s there tonight and part of AEW in the future, great. If not, oh well.
 

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MJF is good, but he’s not “give him a blank check and walk all over you and the locker room” good. AEW will be weaker without him, but it is not as if they are short of talent to fill the void. People wouldn’t have been able to conceive of AEW without Cody Rhodes a year ago, but here we are; most people are far more replaceable than many are willing to admit and life will go on.

If he’s there tonight and part of AEW in the future, great. If not, oh well.
Cody was a face who was getting boo'd and wouldnt turn heel and booked himself out of the top title picture. He was past his peak in AEW because of that. If he stayed he would have just lost and won the TNT title for the 4th time instead of the 3rd time and done more angles like Vs. QT Marshall and the Nightmare Family.

MJF is the best heel in professional wrestling. He has far more things to do like winning the championship and having a babyface chase him. He can go for many years doing those things and wouldnt be doing any more in WWE.

Only your top faces are more important. The young one who is champ Hangman, and the guys who get the biggest reaction Punk and the BCC.
 

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Cody was a face who was getting boo'd and wouldnt turn heel and booked himself out of the top title picture. He was past his peak in AEW because of that. If he stayed he would have just lost and won the TNT title for the 4th time instead of the 3rd time and done more angles like Vs. QT Marshall and the Nightmare Family.

MJF is the best heel in professional wrestling. He has far more things to do like winning the championship and having a babyface chase him. He can go for many years doing those things and wouldnt be doing any more in WWE.

Only your top faces are more important. The young one who is champ Hangman, and the guys who get the biggest reaction Punk and the BCC.
MJF in WWE would mean more money for him and a very watered down Vince version of him or worse.

If MJF only wants the money, I feel eventually he will be unhappy in WWE creatively.
 

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Not sure what you mean. Are you saying there's no proof he's always in character?
I think he gives a lot of interviews and anything vaguely critical o0f AEW gets thrown away as being in character. I was reading how in character he was when talking about getting more money that he deserves and that seems to be true. He was in character when he tweeted his anger at Tony for downplaying his complaints when he said they like to blur the lines between the ring and backstage.
I just cant see how this is an angle, it makes no sense and has no pay off.
 

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I think he gives a lot of interviews and anything vaguely critical o0f AEW gets thrown away as being in character. I was reading how in character he was when talking about getting more money that he deserves and that seems to be true. He was in character when he tweeted his anger at Tony for downplaying his complaints when he said they like to blur the lines between the ring and backstage.
I just cant see how this is an angle, it makes no sense and has no pay off.
I hate to ruin the mystery, but this is 100% a work. You really think MJF will no-show a PPV? He's under contract.

Here's what will happen tonight:
Wardlow makes his entrance first. His music cuts off and he's stood in the ring waiting for MJF. He isn't coming. Murmurs in the crowd and some boos. Excalibur starts talking about how there's been rumours of MJF not turning up. Wardlow is pacing around the ring looking more and more furious. 60 seconds pass. Just as Wardlow is about to exit the ring, MJF's music hits. He makes his entrance with a shit eating "gotchya" grin.
 

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I think he gives a lot of interviews and anything vaguely critical o0f AEW gets thrown away as being in character. I was reading how in character he was when talking about getting more money that he deserves and that seems to be true. He was in character when he tweeted his anger at Tony for downplaying his complaints when he said they like to blur the lines between the ring and backstage.
I just cant see how this is an angle, it makes no sense and has no pay off.
Your not allowed to criticise AEW online
 

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He obviously wants more money. He was signed at the start of AEW as a nobody to a presumably less than lucrative contract.

Since then he has become one of their biggest names and most entertaining guys but he still sees an assembly line of WWE rejects come into AEW and presumably all are on more money than him.

But how does no-showing help him? Look what is happening with Sasha right now. You think Vince is going to give huge money to someone who will no-show a PPV?

It's stupid "shoot" work crap.
 

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MJF in WWE would mean more money for him and a very watered down Vince version of him or worse.

If MJF only wants the money, I feel eventually he will be unhappy in WWE creatively.
I think its a little bit more than just money. The exposure is a lot more too, so you will have more oppertunities to do other things. Obviously while contracted to WWE its up to them what else you do. Maybe you need to wait till you leave to do a bunch of stuff.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=/m/0gtwsg

Heres an example with Cody. He was away from WWE in 2016 and not even half way on web searches until he returned to WWE

Just a good example of how much bigger the WWE machine is. And I'm sure he would end up having frustrations with WWE even if he was pushed like Cody... But he has frustrations now too. So he maybe just wants whoever will pay more and if they both pay the same, WWE broadcast him to more people.
 

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It's a blatant work. It'll get a few more idiots to buy the PPV tonight to see if he "no-shows" which he obviously won't.
This is what I thought. But all the wrestling journalists are saying he wouldnt no show the event and screw the fans. So if it does turn out to be that way, all the journos got worked
 

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Went to bed, slept for a bit, got up thinking I’ll read a few recaps and the fecking thing is still going on.
Looking at Punk v Cowboy and Punk looks bad. Gassed 5 mins in and the match is so slow because of it
 

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That ppv was a very long one.

It seems as if this is the direction they are having to go now, due to having an super bloated roster, of which for some bizarre reason they have just made worse by adding to it.

The shows are going to end up 6 or 7 hours long at this rate to fit everyone on the card.