I can't see how anyone thought showing that CCTV footage would do anything for Perry other than invite a nuclear amount of "go home" heat from which he may never recover. He's hardly got the charisma or ring-presence to shake it off.
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They'd need everyone in that videos permission. The laws are that strict that technically, you can no longer just hand over CCTV to police (or even allow them to view it really), they have to come in with a request from.
And here's Tony, literally broadcasting it worldwide.
He's getting that when he comes back anyway in all honesty. Might as well come back as a heel.
They shouldn’t get so bent out of shape over it, HHH is right. If you go to WWE you have a harder schedule, have to move to America and you’re on the road a lot. It’s a harder job but with far greater rewards if you make it big. Someone like Ostrich would get paid a lot less at WWE initially because he’s not much of a draw despite being a good wrestler.
Tony is paying him a fecking fortune to be a part timer who spends more time at home in England than he does at work with AEW. Can’t blame him at all for taking that gig, but maybe don’t get upset about HHH saying he wants people 100% committed to the cause. It’s a totally fair comment, and not even really a criticism, just a statement of fact.
No offence but you sound about 12 with the silly name calling. He's not a part timer in AEW at all and his been on one of the shows in some capacity every week since he signed as well as wrestling more matches than Roman probably has in a whole year already. Quite simply, he doesn't want to move to America and uproot his family life which is perfectly understandable. Taking shots at his work ethic is a low blow and just plain wrong.
His whole thing was going to be coming back as a heel in a "I was right and Tony threw me under the bus" capacity. It could have even turned into an anti-authority face run.
That probably would have worked without the footage. As it is, everyone saw him being a little dweeb that got his arse handed to him, and that Punk's version of events was pretty much entirely truthful.
AEW essentially lost Punk because of this, and they've now justified his departure.
There's getting heat for being a heel, and there's getting heat because people simply don't care for you, and Perry's going to have a massive uphill battle on his hands to stop the latter.
I don't think anyone really cared for him anyway did they?
But it would be interesting to know what's going through his mind right now. Punk was very obviously gonna go anyway after the initial blow up with the Bucks. A good boss would've took action and binned him there and then (just for the press comments never mind the fight) but we all know he idolised the guy and couldn't do it, hence bending over backwards to give him his own show.Roman has leukaemia, and is one of the biggest stars in the industry in the past decade. And yeah he’s a part timer with AEW, sorry. He just is. He doesn’t work a full schedule like he would with WWE. Look I’m not blaming him, who wouldn’t take the easy money to work a part time schedule. But that’s just the reality.
And Ostrich is a Cornyism that I’m keeping, it’s great.
Don't think the comments made by triple H were specifically for ospreay, I think it was in general as those points of working lighter schedules etc normally come up in this discussion.
Both points are completely fair and valid. If youre at a point in your career, where you want to work a lighter schedule whilst still getting some exposure, fair enough.
But it's also fair enough, that triple H not want to necessarily work with those people at those points in the career, either.
I didn't see a lot wrong with Triple Hs comments but I thought Ospreays were quite juvenile. They've been together over 20 years and have children together. It's the type of insult that gets a pop from a kid on the internet.
Both points are completely fair and valid. If youre at a point in your career, where you want to work a lighter schedule whilst still getting some exposure, fair enough.
But it's also fair enough, that triple H not want to necessarily work with those people at those points in the career, either.
I didn't see a lot wrong with Triple Hs comments but I thought Ospreays were quite juvenile. They've been together over 20 years and have children together. It's the type of insult that gets a pop from a kid on the internet.
I'm not sure if it was the goal, but it's a matter of days after one of the biggest and best Mania's of all time. Yet all the discourse is about... AEW. Just look at this thread. It's the same everywhere.
Do I think it was a good idea and they should have done it? Absolutely not.
Jim Cornette fanboys are weird.
I dunno what Ospreays schedule is, but by your definition, everything outside of WWE is part-time, which is obviously not true. No other company has a schedule like WWE so bit silly to compare.
He seemed fairly over in the tag team with Luchasaurus, and should have got a rub from the feud with Christian.I don't think anyone really cared for him anyway did they?
I don't think he was destined for main event status, but I figured he could have had a decent spot in the mid-card because he always seemed a decent enough worker and he was/is one of the "pillars".
I'm not sure what they do with him in AEW now.
Ah right that explains a lot then.
All fanboys are weird. Some people need a cult to belong to though I guess.
Again, it’s not a criticism, just saying that they’re looking for different things from the business and career. Will wants to spend more time with his family in the UK and AEW is offering him that, and paying him 4m per year. Not a criticism. Okada is back in Japan doing nothing for 6 weeks while getting a huge salary from AEW. Not a criticism. Does either want to move to Florida and work 7 days per week for WWE. Probably not. Not a criticism. And I have to stress THIS IS NOT A CRITICISM. But WWE wants people who want to live and breathe this 24/7, and Ospreay and Okada at this point in their careers don’t want that. And may I just say because I know AEW fans are a bit sensitive when you don’t worship their idols, this is not a criticism of either wrestler in terms of their talent or on a personal level. It’s just a difference of direction for company and person, it is not a criticism. Please understand I’m not criticising either
He kind of was in the tag team but I honestly think people just liked singing the song more than anything. After going solo and then the heel run he was really just treading water to an extent. He's not really awful or really great at anything, just kind of meh. Definition of mid card yeah.
I think the best thing for him to do now is play into any crowd heat and join the Elite. There's really no other option as far as I can see.
Truthfully, I felt him and Guevara both seemed to have far too much air time compared to what they actually brought to the product. Definition of mid-card being presented as future main-eventers.
It might not be a criticism from you but you can see why someone who's worked in this business since he was kid all over the world might be offended that someone said "he's not up for the grind" right? Just listened back to what he said about choosing AEW over WWE and he said "I respect everyone there (in WWE) doing it but it was just not for me." He cites being able to live in the UK and not uproot his partner and her son who just started school as the biggest reason. Also said the money was loads better and he wanted to pay Tony back for the trust he'd shown in him already.
Yeah I have very little time for either. MJF is on a different level altogether and Darby has carved out his own niche as a real life crash test dummy.
Yep and it’s totally fair, and I don’t think HHH was talking about him specifically, nor was it said with any malice or bitterness on the part of HHH. It’s just business. And HHH nearly died not long ago so I’m sure he’d respect any man’s decision to prioritise life and family above all else. That’s why I think it’s petty for Ospreay (or Tony Khan, or whoever) to have a dig back. AEW is becoming more and more insular and playing to their own crowd, I’m not sure this is the way to go.
I think he's better suited to AEW anyway, weirdly.
All the high flying crazy stuff would be curbed/toned down in WWE, where as in AEW its right at home...and then he's rubbish at the mic talking and other stuff so he'd never be in more than a Ricochet type role anyway, imo.
Ricochet vs Osprey would be a cool undercard Mania match but other than that I don't think its a great loss for either WWE or Osprey.
There was nothing wrong with Ospreay having a dig. HHH was subtle in his dig because lets be honest, he didnt say any names but it was aimed towards Ospreay (whether directly or indirectly). Ospreay retaliated which happens a lot in wrestling. The thing is, it came on the same episode with the nonsense cctv and secondly, his actual dig was something thats been heard for 20 years. It wasnt new, bruv. Plus it made Renee look embarrassed / awkward.
I like Ospreay, and hes had some great matches since coming to AEW. Looking forward to see him work with Danielson and the like. But the obvious feud waiting for him in WWE would be Rollins. I did want to see how him and Okada would have done in the WWE environment with HHH in charge now, especially as weve seen both of them in AEW previously. It would have been interested.
I like Ospreay, and hes had some great matches since coming to AEW. Looking forward to see him work with Danielson and the like. But the obvious feud waiting for him in WWE would be Rollins. I did want to see how him and Okada would have done in the WWE environment with HHH in charge now, especially as weve seen both of them in AEW previously. It would have been interested.
He’s better off in AEW at this stage in his career, he’d have been mid card in WWE to begin with, and nowhere near Rollins since 99% of WWE fans would have no idea who he was. They don’t put unknowns on their programming much, and there’s a whole aspect to WWE production that’s different to anything he’ll have ever done before. His in-ring work is good so he’d have got a good push, pretty sure of that. It would’ve been interesting though, I like him more than a lot of mid carders at WWE plus his style would’ve added something. I want to see MJF in WWE more than Ospreay, he seems much better suited to it.
How many times is Ospreay gonna bang on about his commute? We all know Khan pays for first class, so it's hardly like he's trawling around in a rental. I get he used to travel more with us regular folk before AEW, but yeah, his "working" week nowadays is cushy.... and yes, it's well earned, but it's still cushy. Just accept it, or given that you are supposedly in the Don Callis family - despite fighting and beating them all for some reason - use it as to feed that you are supposed to be a heel, but he's not.
Ospreay's just there to earn Meltzer stars at the moment.
Ospreay's just there to earn Meltzer stars at the moment.
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I’ve seen a clip on social media where Osprey and Richochet have wrestled each other before somewhere.
Very famous match. Vader hated it and worked his way into a match with Ospreay on the indies by shitting on it online.
It was still a "Holy shit!" moment and everyone ate it up but it would've landed a little better with Austin given he and Rock's history.
Not surprised, Austin has always been a thundercnut.
Calling BS on that, Observer knows feck all about WWE. They’ve been wrong on so much stuff regarding WWE in the past year or so. The story I read was that Austin had a personal issue come up that weekend, but that’s also just gossip. It’s very hard to believe they couldn’t come to an agreement with Austin for such a massive occasion. He’s close with The Rock, too. Time will tell, but I think this story is wrong.
And vader won
Vader wanted it to be a series of three matches!And vader won
Think Ospreay basically agreed to it because it was getting a lot of attention, but had no interest in putting the old man over again.
I don't believe it was money. HHH threw the book at this year he wouldn't have missed out on Austin over a fee issue.
The story I heard is Austin didn't want to be part of a team of wrestlers coming to Cody's aid which is what happened. He wanted to come down alone and they couldn't work round that.
I heard his wife was unwell and couldn’t travel so he stayed behind to be with her.
Why not? He's missing out on the best free agents over a fee issue.
Who?
David de gea
White, Ospreay, Okada, Sasha...
He (or well, probably Nick Khan) aren't willing to overpay to the levels Tony Khan is.
Not one of these is on the level of Austin, how can you compare?
None of them are worth the salary they get in AEW to WWE.
The Austin moment would have been worth whatever Austin wanted (which let’s be real, he knows what the going rate is). It’d of been used in so much footage.
I doubt it was financial. The rumours about his wife not being well seem believable. Taker felt a bit out of place. I think they’d of booked it differently if they’d always planned on it being Taker.