Probably. But they are at a point where it really doesn't matter much. They won't drop out of top four in the league and they won't win the CL anyway. Why burn the next manager wirh this season?
They wouldn't if they got an interim (probbaly not Ole obviously, but someone)... but think there's something to be said for getting Tuchel out if him being there is breeding negativity through the squad.
I mean I guess we’re still around but there’s not much interest in trying to defend what can’t be defended. He struggling. I don’t agree with you that he’s a terrible manager. I think he’s one of better managers in Europe but fair is fair you have consistently been saying you don’t rate him, even at the height of his hype in 2021.
I think he is massively overrated, has a terrible personality, huge personal issues and plays shit on a stick football. So boring.
Still collected the most points after 22 match days since Guardiola was at Bayern. On course to the 8th best Bundesliga season ever. I mean, I love to see it but the way Bayern self-destructs is completely out of proportion. The whole club is completely toxic right now and that brings out the worst in Tuchel as well
Honestly, that squad in that league would probably do similar without a coach.
You think that squad is so good? I think apart from Kane and Musiala, it is very average by Bayern standards. Plus, it was incredibly thin in the first half of the season and is now decimated by injuries.
Make up your mind
Keeps shagging his players' wives
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Uh oh...
The first few months of 2021/22 season with Chelsea were still excellent though. After 14 rounds we were top of the league with a 10W-3D-1L record and 33-6 goal difference.
The points have been okay up until a week ago, but the collapse of the last three games surprises nobody who has seen this Bayern play and not just looked at the table. We had 'stabilized' on a shit level after Tuchel came in for Nagelsmann and never improved from that in a consistent manner.
Who in this squad smashed the UCL?
Hernandez is thankfully gone.
In hindsight, that UCL win comes with an asterisk if you ask me. They won it in the first covid year after a very long break that distorted European football. Since then, they've been pretty underwhelming. It's been four (!) years since they've last won the cup. They've finished above 80 points once (!) in the last 5 years. For comparison: In the previous 6 years, they've finished below 80 once and twice over 90. Their goals against since they've won their first Bundesliga title after Klopp's titles at Dortmund look like this: 18, 23, 18, 17, 22, 28, 32, 32, 44, 37, 38.
You can’t possibly believe this. This is a Leverkusen squad that finished 6th last season and added Xhaka, Boniface and Tella.
I think it wasn't as bad as you describe it. I caught many games of yours and most of them were okay in terms of control and dominance as well as chance creation. Nothing special but not terrible either. The understat xPts table still has you as first by the way with 52 expected points to our 48. And the ponts haven't been okay, IMO, but excellent, especially considering the circumstances. The squad was extremely thin with Tuchel at times only having 15 players available. You almost had to play Goretzka as a CB in your match against Dortmund. And as said, your best players aren't what they used to be either. You have no midfielder of Thiago's, Kroos' or Schweinsteiger's quality, no wingers of Robben or Ribery level, no CBs on Hummels or Boateng level, no full backs on Lahm level, Müller and Neuer are shadows of their former selves, etc.. Add to that the circumstances in which Tuchel took over (I doubt he'd agree to that again) and that he got none of the players he asked for in the summer (CDM, CB/RB hybrid) and instead they even sold two players he needed (Pavard and Stanisic) and I think the treatment he got is extremely unfair. It is actually incredible that he managed to collect the most points since Guardiola despite all these obstacles.
Leipzig are ***** like Dortmund. They´ll roll over for Bayern.
Weird post. Leipzig actually won the Supercup against Bayern this season and got a draw in the first league match. Last season they won and drew in the league, but lost the Supercup. Overall Leipzig is unbeaten four matches in a row now against Bayern. That's kind of the total opposite of what Dortmund does.
fell out with his players in 4 of his last 5 jobs and while still seemingly having their backing at Roma they were Roma. At a bigger club with bigger players the stuff he said and pulled would have had the players sack him halfway through his second season
So it is. I hate getting old.
Yes but his whole success and the plethora of titles he has was built on him getting players to love him. Granted I think football, and more importantly, football players have changed compared to his heyday but you can't take that away from him.
I get why you think that and I'd probably come to the same conclusion if I were you but I genuinely don't believe this is the case and think that five years from now, you'll agree with me. I mean, it's only logical to be skeptical because we're speaking about one season but what about the Bayern players? Who of them have more to show for? In many cases, their great reputation stems from that one UCL winning season as well. Since then, they haven't exactly set the world on fire.
Who would you play him for?Kimmich is just a good player and wouldn't get into the Leverkusen side. They're just like Arsenal fans
But surely you are basing this, in large part, in their performances under two disappointing candidates in Bayerns case, and one that looks to be heading to the very top of the game in Alonso’s?
I think your last sentence is spot on. You see the ability when watching us play
Just because Alonso has had an incredible impact doesn't mean that the players filling his system with life haven't been brillant on an individual level as well. The way Xhaka, Palacios, Grimaldo and Wirtz escape even the tightest pressing situations with ease isn't something you can teach every player, it requires great awareness, anticipation and technical ability.Xhaka or Palacios obviously. Neither are better than Kimmich. Palacios is really talented but right now Kimmich is still better than him.
Much better for the league when Liverpool or Real raid Leverkusen for their assets, innit
This has been happening for as long as I can remember.
Better at what is the question. Alonso requires Palacios, Xhaka, Andrich (two of those three usually play) to keep their deep position to guarantee structure and organisation. Kimmich is worse than them at this task (which is why Tuchel wanted to sign a new DM but didn't get one).So I don't think it's obvious that he starts ahead of them
