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Official Team Perv
Messi
Ronaldo
Iniesta
Xavi
Lahm
Rooney
Ronaldinho
Modric
Henry
Pirlo
Ronaldo
Iniesta
Xavi
Lahm
Rooney
Ronaldinho
Modric
Henry
Pirlo
I am as well. I thought he was the best player in the world for a couple of years in the early to mid 2000s. At worst, he was 2nd best. Lewandowski is an incredible goalscorer but as an overall player, I'm not sure he was ever quite what Henry used to be.I'm surprised by Henry being omitted. I'd have to find room for him. Especially over Lewa.
Really? In his category alone we have Ronaldo, Henry, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo and Messi. The competition is fierce. We can't have more than half the list be attackers. Some credit must go to midfielders, defenders and goalkeepers too.Barely a mention of Arjen Robben is surprising
Not saying he'd walk into the top 10 but I'm seeing lengthy shortlists without him being mentioned. Robben was unfortunate to be around the same time as Ronaldo and Messi, otherwise he could have multiple Ballon D'ors and likely be seen as the best winger of his generationReally? In his category alone we have Ronaldo, Henry, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo and Messi. The competition is fierce. We can't have more than half the list be attackers. Some credit must go to midfielders, defenders and goalkeepers too.
Robben didn’t play enough games to be Ballon d’Or worthy or have the stats for it, he was very injury prone. The only years he would have been close were 2013 and 2014, and if Messi and Ronaldo weren’t in it then Ribéry and Neuer would have won the two Ballon d’Ors.Not saying he'd walk into the top 10 but I'm seeing lengthy shortlists without him being mentioned. Robben was unfortunate to be around the same time as Ronaldo and Messi, otherwise he could have multiple Ballon D'ors and likely be seen as the best winger of his generation
Honorouble mentions:I go with
Messi
Cristiano
Iniesta
Xavi
Ronaldinho
Zidane
Robben
Neymar
Henry
Modric
Not necessarily in this order
Drogba?Whos the highest rated African?
Eto'oDrogba?
Good shoutEto'o
The debate is probably between Salah, Eto’o, Drogba and Yaya Toure.Whos the highest rated African?
Up there with the best but when measured against players who spearheaded their teams to the highest trophies and were influential in the biggest games, I think he falls a bit short. He is in the tier of the Agüeros and Zlatans for me. The likes of Suarez, Benzema and Lewa produced game changing performances at the top end of the CL which puts them a bit higher in my book.Rooney?
Eto'o for me too, still can't believe Barcelona let him go for Ibrahimovic and paid £40m , when eto'o was just better. Should have been Ibra + £40m for eto'o. The man wins you Champions leagues.Eto'o
Drogba had the big game presence with several match winning performances. Salah has the machine like consistency and as good as Eto'o was, he always seemed to be overshadowed by someone else. I remember him even being shunned to left back for Inter at some point. Probably unfair on him but maybe there was something missing there. I wouldn't really count Yaya in that debate. Deemed not good enough for Barcelona and shone in the weakest era for the PL in the past 15 years or so. Mané is probably worth a mention too.The debate is probably between Salah, Eto’o, Drogba and Yaya Toure.
Good question. I consider him as much a 90's player as anything else.Should Zidane be in for just his performances from 2000-2006?
I'd say that was his best years no? By no means consistent but I just can't think of many players who could stand out in a field full of top players. His performances in the 2006 WC were as good as I've seen from a midfielder. That 1/4 vs Brazil was one of the best performances I've seen.Should Zidane be in for just his performances from 2000-2006?
Eto'o won 4 UCL, just saying. One as a passenger, sure, but two as an integral cog of one of the greatest squads ever (plus scoring in both finals), and another one the next year as the leader of the squad that stopped them. Oh, and he is the only player with two consecutive trebles.Drogba had the big game presence with several match winning performances. Salah has the machine like consistency and as good as Eto'o was, he always seemed to be overshadowed by someone else. I remember him even being shunned to left back for Inter at some point. Probably unfair on him but maybe there was something missing there. I wouldn't really count Yaya in that debate. Deemed not good enough for Barcelona and shone in the weakest era for the PL in the past 15 years or so. Mané is probably worth a mention too.
Fair enough, might have been a bit harsh on him. What's his fourth CL? It's 06, 09 and 10 as far as I know.Eto'o won 4 UCL, just saying. One as a passenger, sure, but two as an integral cog of one of the greatest squads ever (plus scoring in both finals), and another one the next year as the leader of the squad that stopped them. Oh, and he is the only player with two consecutive trebles.
Then he should be in his own tier just squeezed in between both. He's won more than Aguero and Zlatan, was more of a big game player than both too. Lewandowski is clear, Benzema has won way too much, Suarez you could make a case for. Rooney as a player though was an absolute baller and unlike any of these guys had no problems playing CM or CAM whatsoever. He could do everything.Up there with the best but when measured against players who spearheaded their teams to the highest trophies and were influential in the biggest games, I think he falls a bit short. He is in the tier of the Agüeros and Zlatans for me. The likes of Suarez, Benzema and Lewa produced game changing performances at the top end of the CL which puts them a bit higher in my book.
I think his trajectory is comparable to Benzema. Mainstays in super successful teams but often reduced to working for the main star in Cristiano or even Van Persie at some point. Benzema elevated himself to the top echelon in 2022 when he produced match winning performances or moments against PSG, Chelsea and City. Rooney came close in 2010 before that injury vs Bayern but never reached that main man level. It's not all on him though as our team post Ronaldo was not as good as the Real Benzema played for which makes you wonder just good Rooney could have been if he led the line for a CL contender level of team.Then he should be in his own tier just squeezed in between both. He's won more than Aguero and Zlatan, was more of a big game player than both too. Lewandowski is clear, Benzema has won way too much, Suarez you could make a case for. Rooney as a player though was an absolute baller and unlike any of these guys had no problems playing CM or CAM whatsoever. He could do everything.
I am really surprised so many pick Buffon over Neuer in goal. He was a top GK and has the longevity sure but Neuer was a monster. Who would you sign at their peak?Top 10 list is going to be skewed towards attacking players. I think a best eleven is a better way to do it.
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Alves--------------------------------------------------Lahm
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Ronaldo-------------------------------------Ronaldinho
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Subs:
Neuer
Tiago Silva
John Terry
Roberto Carlos
Kaka
Iniesta
Gerrard
Henry
Rooney
He was better between 2000-2006 than he was 94-99, 6 years is still a fair chunk of time to judge a player.Should Zidane be in for just his performances from 2000-2006?