We will need at least 2 CBs right? maybe 3 if we sell Maguire? Feels like we should be looking hard at him on a free.
That would be a very uninspiring group. Martinez not inspiring much that he could be healthy all year. Shaw.... yeah regardless of where he plays he prob gets injured by first international break. Then we are once again down to starting someone like Maguire or kambwala every single game. Puts a huge amount of pressure on new signing to be a rock from day oneA starting CB is a must. After that we have a myriad of options. I’d be surprised if Maguire left and there’s been noise around so many young RCB’s over the past year from Todibo, , Yoro, Antonio Silva and Scalvini that it seems like we will prioritise this position.
I’d be happy with Martinez, Maguire, Kambwala, new RCB, Shaw as CB cover if we also sign a LB.
Any other time people would complain we make these sorts of signings because 'whats he done'Slow off the mark as usual, what else is new for us?
That would be a very uninspiring group. Martinez not inspiring much that he could be healthy all year. Shaw.... yeah regardless of where he plays he prob gets injured by first international break. Then we are once again down to starting someone like Maguire or kambwala every single game. Puts a huge amount of pressure on new signing to be a rock from day one
He got injured at the tail end of his first season, then was injured pretty much all last season. To say there's no reason to think he won't be able to stay fit next season just seems disingenuous. There is an easy line of thinking to say his body might not be able to cope at this level, especially considering the ferocity in which he playsThere is no reason to think Martinez won’t be able to stay fit next season. His latest injury was just an unfortunate collision on field.
There is no reason to think Martinez won’t be able to stay fit next season. His latest injury was just an unfortunate collision on field.
People only think he's good enough because he's free. It's an odd clamour for him.
Slow off the mark as usual, what else is new for us?
Of course Chelsea are in for him. Free agent, his salary will be huge. However, there's no guarantee he will succeed. Thanks but no thanks. Chelsea can have him.
Don't get me wrong, he could be good business, but he wouldn't even be in the conversation if we were trying to buy him for a fee.Absolutely.
Don't get me wrong, he could be good business, but he wouldn't even be in the conversation if we were trying to buy him for a fee.
What do you think his "huge" salary will be? Google says he is currently on about £40K a week.
I reckon he'll double his money.
26 Years old, transfer free, possibly joining a big PL club, I reckon at the minimum he wants to triple his current salary.
£120K a week for a free transfer is not too unreasonable.
He is getting £160k per week at Chelsea apparently
There is no reason to think Martinez won’t be able to stay fit next season. His latest injury was just an unfortunate collision on field.
There is a reason. It doesnt matter if its bad luck that means hes had a lot of injuries, because bad luck can continue. You have no reason to say right then the pattern is over
Right but no team in the world can rely on anything. Any player could break his leg first game of the season. Having a decent backup (and Maguire is that) is more than good enough for most teams.
Someone on X.According to who? And don't say "someone on Twitter"!
I think we can evaluate based on how many injuries we've had this season compared to other teams that there are contributing factors other than RNG. If those dont change we're more likely than another club to have the same happen next season.
Maguire is good enough to start as he's shown this season. Lisandro is too if he can stay fit. The rest of our options are sub par. Since we're in this thread Tosin is a good example of a player who would have been great as competition for Maguire and good as a stand in if Lisandro isnt fit. He's not the same type of player so he's not a great replacement.
Chelsea's defence was somehow worse than ours despite all our injuries and playing players out of position. So Tosin would be a great get for them on a free especially as they've spent so much on CBs over the past 3 or so seasons and almost all of them have played average or worse.
Im genuinely surprised how many people wanted Tosin. He is the most average of PL defenders. I am convinced that people just haven't watched him play more than 1 or 2 games.
If we want to get back to being a challenging side, we can't be signing specialist backups, we need to be signing understudies with the ability to one day become first choice players. This is how you create healthy competition within the squad and make sure players are always striving to be their best.
£120K a week for a free transfer is not too unreasonable.
Im genuinely surprised how many people wanted Tosin. He is the most average of PL defenders. I am convinced that people just haven't watched him play more than 1 or 2 games.
If we want to get back to being a challenging side, we can't be signing specialist backups, we need to be signing understudies with the ability to one day become first choice players. This is how you create healthy competition within the squad and make sure players are always striving to be their best.
did you just imply that he's a better defender than Varane? surely you didn'tOur backup CBs and the departing Varane were worse than average, Tosin was above average this season and Fulham conceded just 3 more goals than us despite Tosin being surrounded by a keeper, CB partner and RB worse than our players. Leftback was good in Robinson though.
did you just imply that he's a better defender than Varane? surely you didn't
Of course Chelsea are in for him. Free agent, his salary will be huge. However, there's no guarantee he will succeed. If he flops and he sits on a huge contract, we can't sell him off. Thanks but no thanks. Chelsea can have him.
I think his point is in resale value, Lets say he turns out to be not so good and you want to move him on. It's much easier to move a player on 100k a week than 150k a week. Of course you'll end up saving on the whole if its a free transfer and it turns out he's a success.Define huge
Say £150k a week ( even with signing in fee seems unlikely) that’s what £7.5 million a season or circa £45 million over the term of his 6 year contract.
Let’s say you go for a player who costs £25 million and £100k a week. Over just five years that’s £50 million.
Is there a guarantee that because you pay £25 million that player will not be a flop ?
The simple reality is every player signing a deal be it on a free or with a fee involved comes at a risk
Don’t see him being a benchwarmer at all. Think he goes straight into our first XI on the right side and partnered with Colwill. Or if we play a back 3 he’ll be in the central Thiago Silva role with Colwill and Fofana either side of him.Would be a good bench option. I think he is a bench warmer at chelsea too. But it makes sense to him to join the Blues. Their project is fancier and he is from London.
Did he miss games because of injuries? Just checked his stats and he started around 50% of the games for Fulham.
I know it's hard to replace Silva as is but Aradabioyo is pretty significant downgrade as a starter.Don’t see him being a benchwarmer at all. Think he goes straight into our first XI on the right side and partnered with Colwill. Or if we play a back 3 he’ll be in the central Thiago Silva role with Colwill and Fofana either side of him.
According to transfermarkt he missed 10 league games through injury this season. He was left on bench as an unused sub for 2 games and then for some reason left out of the squad completely for the final 4 games of the season.
Anyone is a big downgrade, tbf. I just don’t know if the club want to spend the huge money it would take to sign one of these super highly rated young CB’s.I know it's hard to replace Silva as is but Aradabioyo is pretty significant downgrade as a starter.
