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Two home grown.This is not a performance. This is an embarrassment. Picking players from all of Europe, for incredible money, and this is their showing. So disjointed.
Two home grown.This is not a performance. This is an embarrassment. Picking players from all of Europe, for incredible money, and this is their showing. So disjointed.
Yeah I agree on the bolded but realistically probably only one or two are ever going to make it into the team here. The rest should be out trying to make it in the men’s game at a lower level and hopefully working their way up to at least a basic PL level before you ever see them play for us, even in the cups. Shola is looking like he’s going to get chances in the next few years.Most of the good ones aren't playing today, Hannibal, Elanga, Hansen, Forson for example. I like Fernandez though. The rest I think is very mediocre. Jury out on Kambwala though.
True, what do you think of Jurado, Savage, Hugill, Shoretire, Garnacho, Hoogewerf though.Most of the good ones aren't playing today, Hannibal, Elanga, Hansen, Forson for example. I like Fernandez though. The rest I think is very mediocre. Jury out on Kambwala though.
Yes, with a primarily British line-up. In recent years however they've had teams with highly rated players from all over the world and struggled.Didn't they draw 1 all with 9 men against PSG. Still. Not about results at this age is it.
Can’t seeing the first team losing 4-0 after 45 minutesI hope the first team don't play like this tonight.
Surely it is about results - winning the FA Youth Cup propelled the Class of 92 into the first teamYes, with a primarily British line-up. In recent years however they've had teams with highly rated players from all over the world and struggled.
Tbh I find it sad when even the youth teams mirror the cynical nature of football at the highest level. Just look at Utd's bench today, all English players who have presumably been with the club from a young age but once they get to u18s they get booted out in favour of some kids Utd have poached from another club's academy. I agree that it's not about results though so even if these players can't play well together, as an individual it doesn't mean they won't make it.
It's not that deep. The ones on the bench are simply younger than their playing colleagues.Tbh I find it sad when even the youth teams mirror the cynical nature of football at the highest level. Just look at Utd's bench today, all English players who have presumably been with the club from a young age but once they get to u18s they get booted out in favour of some kids Utd have poached from another club's academy. I agree that it's not about results though so even if these players can't play well together, as an individual it doesn't mean they won't make it.
To be fair, I probably have to give Jurado and Garnacho a year to prove themselves as they're young and new in the country. Shoretire is a difficult one, highly rated but can sometimes drift out of games, like today. I don't see anything special in Hoogewerf, Hugill, and Savage, unfortunately.True, what do you think of Jurado, Savage, Hugill, Shoretire, Garnacho, Hoogewerf though.
Some are or were considered big talents at different stages over the past 2 years.
Feel like I share the same sentiments from the little I have seen.To be fair, I probably have to give Jurado and Garnacho a year to prove themselves as they're young and new in the country. Shoretire is a difficult one, highly rated but can sometimes drift out of games, like today. I don't see anything special in Hoogewerf, Hugill, and Savage, unfortunately.
yeah, seems like the club rates him highly. I will be very disappointed if not Hannibal makes it here, and I think Elanga is on the verge of making it here. We'll see what happens with Hansen but looks promising, as well as Fernandez (who I think is going to be a very good footballer). They need to stay injury-free though.Yeah I agree on the bolded but realistically probably only one or two are ever going to make it into the team here. The rest should be out trying to make it in the men’s game at a lower level and hopefully working their way up to at least a basic PL level before you ever see them play for us, even in the cups. Shola is looking like he’s going to get chances in the next few years.
I just want to congratulate whoever's responsible. Well done, we play the same way across all age groups. Don't know where to move, how to press and how to keep the ball.
I've watched plenty.
I guess you never watched reserve games when Fergie was still around?
Well clearly you have not watched enough because this is exactly what happens at reserve and youth football. There are often games where there is poor passing, poor finishing and lacking cohesive play.I've watched plenty.
100%I just want to congratulate whoever's responsible. Well done, we play the same way across all age groups. Don't know where to move, how to press and how to keep the ball.
It's not the failing of those things, it's the complete lack of understanding how to do those things. And why.Well clearly you have not watched enough because this is exactly what happens at reserve and youth football. There are often games where there is poor passing, poor finishing and lacking cohesive play.
and possibly the worst defender !Fernandez scores. Our best player today
That is a good point, people also have to remember this isn't a real age group in England.Villarreal fielded players who have previously represented their 'B' team, a side that plays in the third tier of Spanish football. That is an advantage over players that only plays in youth leagues.
His defensive qualities do worry me. But as a wingback he might be great. Same with Lairdand possibly the worst defender !
Mengi, McNeill, Pye, Forson, Fish all missing for one reason or another and they would have all been included in the squad. Then Hugill, Shoretire, Savage starting with all seven on the bench English.Disappointing to see so few English players starting.
Laird is much further ahead and to be honest, always has been. We have seen Laird run 20-30 metres with the ball and the defender can't stop him. I watched Alvaro in 23's and he was ahead of a player, gets run down and turns back. I just think his movement won't cut it with the first team. Unless he moves to defence in the middle eg Maguire.His defensive qualities do worry me. But as a wingback he might be great. Same with Laird
No it hasn't...it's been the same for 20 years since Academy football started and teams were not allowed to get players from other areas of the country.Said it before. Philosophy has changed. Be very few local lads coming through going forward.
Ole out?It's not the failing of those things, it's the complete lack of understanding how to do those things. And why.
Agree, our 18's and 23's ae consistently changing. I know with the 18's I look forward to watching certain players and they aren't there or on the bench. I heard the coach say they try their best to give equal time etc. An example is the keeper Vitek. Easily the best and doesn't play a lot. Other keepers get a run like Hanbury. Vitek is behind Kovar in the 23's and Kovar isn't going to make it with us. Bottom line, the amount of youth in our 1st squad is testament to them been given a go. As I wrote awhile ago, we haven't lost many who became stars. Only one was Pogba and maybe some keepers like Zeigler and Gollini.Ole out?
Seriously by definition, the fact that they are playing in the U18s will be that they will be inconsistent and not prime time ready. Thus it's part of their education to learn where they went wrong on the field. There are matches they all look brilliant and then other days they will trap the ball like a Lukaku. Plus the constant chopping & changing of the teams (shuffling between U18s, U21 and U23s) doesn't help.
Any way of watching a replay of the full game?